NAACP slamming Donovan McNabb

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Philadelphia ? Donovan McNabb is still taking shots ? the latest from an NAACP leader who criticized the quarterback's leadership skills and said he ?played the race card? in explaining why he no longer runs the ball.

J. Whyatt Mondesire, who publishes a newspaper for blacks and is the president of the Philadelphia branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, recently wrote that the Eagles' star quarterback failed as a team leader and choked in the Super Bowl.

McNabb responded sharply, but Mondesire hasn't changed his stance.

?He doesn't get it,? Mondesire said Wednesday. ?If he got it, I wouldn't have written the article.?

Mondesire, publisher of the Philadelphia Sunday Sun, criticized McNabb in a column in his newspaper on Dec. 4.

He wrote that McNabb's tendency to run the ball early in his career ?not only confused defenses, it also thrilled Eagles fans,? but that abandoning that element ?by claiming that ?everybody expects black quarterbacks to scramble' not only amounts to a breach of faith but also belittles the real struggles of black athletes who've had to overcome real racial stereotypcasting in addition to downright segregation.?

Mondesire said the bottom line is that McNabb is ?not that good.?

?In essence Donny, you are mediocre at best,? Mondesire wrote. ?And trying to disguise that fact behind some concocted reasoning that African American quarterbacks who can scramble and who can run the ball are somehow lesser field generals ... is more insulting off the field than on.?

McNabb was stunned by Mondesire's comments.

?Obviously, if it's someone else who is not African American, it's racism,? McNabb told reporters attending his annual holiday party last Saturday.
?But when someone of the same race talks about you because you're selling out because you're not running the ball, it goes back to, ?What are we really talking about here?'

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Red Dawn

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Both this turd and the Oxcycotin addled fat fsck Limbaugh are idiots, McNabb is great when he's healthy and has competent receivers to throw too, just look at last year.
 

KK

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Why would he even respond or acknowledge that idiot reporter
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Both this turd and the Oxcycotin addled fat fsck Limbaugh are idiots, McNabb is great when he's healthy and has competent receivers to throw too, just look at last year.

I concur. You said a mouthfull there. :)

 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Both this turd and the Oxcycotin addled fat fsck Limbaugh are idiots, McNabb is great when he's healthy and has competent receivers to throw too, just look at last year.

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jjones

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Both this turd and the Oxcycotin addled fat fsck Limbaugh are idiots, McNabb is great when he's healthy and has competent receivers to throw too, just look at last year.
I agree with everything you've said except the "great" part. He's good, IMO, but not great. I've always felt he was a little over-rated, but that's really a subjective point. Something like, "If I wanted to choose the top ten QB's (active and retired) to have in a clutch situation, who would you pick?" McNabb wouldn't be in the top ten.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Both this turd and the Oxcycotin addled fat fsck Limbaugh are idiots, McNabb is great when he's healthy and has competent receivers to throw too, just look at last year.
I agree with everything you've said except the "great" part. He's good, IMO, but not great. I've always felt he was a little over-rated, but that's really a subjective point. Something like, "If I wanted to choose the top ten QB's (active and retired) to have in a clutch situation, who would you pick?" McNabb wouldn't be in the top ten.
When healthy he's definately in the top 10, maybe the top 5 of all active NFL QB's.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Both this turd and the Oxcycotin addled fat fsck Limbaugh are idiots, McNabb is great when he's healthy and has competent receivers to throw too, just look at last year.
I agree with everything you've said except the "great" part. He's good, IMO, but not great. I've always felt he was a little over-rated, but that's really a subjective point. Something like, "If I wanted to choose the top ten QB's (active and retired) to have in a clutch situation, who would you pick?" McNabb wouldn't be in the top ten.
When healthy he's definately in the top 10, maybe the top 5 of all active NFL QB's.



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Spineshank

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[/quote]
When healthy he's definately in the top 10, maybe the top 5 of all active NFL QB's.
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Yea right.

Heck being from around Philly i know many Eagle fans here that even think hes not that great.



 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
When healthy he's definately in the top 10, maybe the top 5 of all active NFL QB's.
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Yea right.

Heck being from around Philly i know many Eagle fans here that even think hes not that great.



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Yeah but you have to take the average IQ of a Philly fan into consideration. Those idiots even boo Santa Claus for christ sakes!
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
When healthy he's definately in the top 10, maybe the top 5 of all active NFL QB's.


Yea right.

Heck being from around Philly i know many Eagle fans here that even think hes not that great.



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Yeah but you have to take the average IQ of a Philly fan into consideration. Those idiots even boo Santa Claus for christ sakes!
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zing:D
 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
When healthy he's definately in the top 10, maybe the top 5 of all active NFL QB's.
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Yea right.

Heck being from around Philly i know many Eagle fans here that even think hes not that great.



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Well I was born and raised an Eagles fan, I am a season ticket holder. Trust me there are more then just "many" fans here who think he sucks. I mean sure he had a great season overall last year, but time and time again the man just plain chokes!!!! (Super Bowl). He has used every excuse in the book for failing at the QB position when he does choke.

Sorry, typical Philly fan disgruntled about a crap season.
 

Mursilis

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That publisher is an idiot, but he does have a point about McNabb's attempts to move away from the run. McNabb even said in Sports Illustrated a few years back that he wanted to be known as a passer and not just a scrambler, and part of that was because he didn't want to fit into the racist stereotype of the scrambling black QB who can't pass. It's fine for a QB of any color to want to be a better passer (after all, that's why they're QB and not HB/FB), but as I see it, if you've got legs (and McNabb does when he's healthy) as well as an arm, why not use them?!? A mobile QB is better than an immobile one any day, and it just makes it harder for a defense to key on one aspect of your offense. Forget even caring what racists think or say - the bottom line is winning, and however that's accomplished is what's ultimately going to define you as a player. I'm sure the Falcons are glad Vick's not looking to give up on running just because a few racists think blacks can't be good passers.
 

Bumrush99

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Blacks that succeed in the country get a lot of hate from other blacks that despise anyone that acts "white" or like an Uncle Tom.. IMHO, that form of racism is just as bad as anything the KKK could come up with (besides physical violence, of course).

 

AU Tiger

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Limbaugh is right, but this guy is an idiot.

McNabb is not that good. There are plenty of other NFL quarterbacks that are better than McNabb.
 

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No one is saying Donovan McNabb is the best QB out there but anyone who claims he isn't remotely good really should watch his games more often. Pre-TO, McNabb was still better than 3/4 of the league.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
When healthy he's definately in the top 10, maybe the top 5 of all active NFL QB's.


Yea right.

Heck being from around Philly i know many Eagle fans here that even think hes not that great.



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Yeah but you have to take the average IQ of a Philly fan into consideration. Those idiots even boo Santa Claus for christ sakes!
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I can't even argue this any more after sitting in the stands at eagles games....
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Both this turd and the Oxcycotin addled fat fsck Limbaugh are idiots, McNabb is great when he's healthy and has competent receivers to throw too, just look at last year.

i :heart: you
 

jalaram

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He may have "choked" in the big games, but the Eagles wouldn't be in the playoffs without him. I have had McNabb on my Fantasy for a few years now and I know that he's one of the top QBs in the league.

This guy is still an idiot. There's nothing wrong with reducing how much you scramble. If McNabb believes it'll help him in the long run, good for him. Just because it's excitement for fans doesn't necessarily make it a good football technique.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: AU Tiger
Limbaugh is right, but this guy is an idiot.

McNabb is not that good. There are plenty of other NFL quarterbacks that are better than McNabb.

Name them. I'll give you Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and maybe Carson Palmer, but who else would you say is better?
 

Spineshank

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Yea thats true that they are dumb. I dont like any local sports team. I think Mcmann is better than Mcnabb.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Yea thats true that they are dumb. I dont like any local sports team. I think Mcmann is better than Mcnabb.

point and laugh, children
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: jalaram
There's nothing wrong with reducing how much you scramble. If McNabb believes it'll help him in the long run, good for him. Just because it's excitement for fans doesn't necessarily make it a good football technique.

I don't care whether he scrambles or not, but I merely questioned his rationale, which was (in part) to prove he can be a black QB known for his passing, and not his running. Every decision regarding gameplay should be based soly on whether it helps the team win, not whether it addresses stupid critics who think black QB's can't pass. I can't blame McNabb, since it's not his fault idiots still question whether blacks can play QB (yes, they can), but having watched the McNabb and the Eagles smack down my favorite team (the Redskins) too many times, I know McNabb's ability to scramble was a strong part of his game, and he shouldn't give up on that.
 

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: AU Tiger
Limbaugh is right, but this guy is an idiot.

McNabb is not that good. There are plenty of other NFL quarterbacks that are better than McNabb.

Name them. I'll give you Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and maybe Carson Palmer, but who else would you say is better?

Trent Green, Drew Brees, Bret Favre (maybe not this year), Eli Manning, Jake Delhomme