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LMK: (Democrats who are also strong Christians.) that does not exist

M: I know you don't really mean this. You are not that stupid.
that wasn't me. It was romans, and most probably because of the immorality of ending the life of an unborn child;
But i've alredy responded to this.
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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
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Originally posted by: przero
There is no law to prevent me from refusing to hire any non-minority for simply not liking them. A minority is another matter. Why should gays, polygamist, child molesters, etc. be granted that right via minority status?

Are gay people criminals?
replace the word polygamists with whore-mongers.

... you mean pimps? AFAIK that's already illegal in most states.

no i mean those that have sex with woman-after-woman.

You mean women are whores because that is the implication. Wow!

Main Entry: whore·mas·ter
Pronunciation: -"mas-t&r
Function: noun
: a man consorting with whores or given to lechery

i intended the lechery part.

now why are you distracting from the issue?

whormaster: 1. A man who associates with or pays for sexual relations with prostitutes or a prostitute.
2. A pimp

So when you said no to pimp you meant yes, and when you said those that have sex with woman after woman you meant those that have sex with whore after whore, though I doubt that your Fundi Christian fear of sexuality allows you to distinguish woman from whore. Your bigotry spills over into everything.
no, i intended lechery; as I've indicated already.

that being why i didn't use pimp or whore master, but whore-monger; which has connotative meanings that you don't get, just as are the connotative meanings that are disgraced by your use of the word bigot.

so you can't get me on the issues: government sexualization of an 8 year old is a bad thing.

and that the agenda here is to keep those who disagree with you from being heard by yelling words like 'bigot',

Fact is you are just here to keep in line those who are part of the liberal indoctrination centers of America from falling to the 'evil' conservative ideas by yelling 'bigot' to remind those who agree with you the base emotional reasons they've been given that my intellectually honest reasons can't be right.

Or maybe you're just part of that indoctrination and your just expressing your only honest view on the subject that can disagree, your raw-emotion.

That's OK, I'm not here to attack your faith, i just want an intellectually honest discussion.. but your offerings, in this regard, I've found to be woefully... um.. not good.

/honk moon's clown-nose.
 

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Ok Moonie, I mean Moonbeam, Since you called me a bigot...I have turned over a new leaf....I now think being homosexual is acceptable, (That's wonderful, congratulations) why don't we teach grades 1-6 how to be a good homosexual...we can have classroom demonstrations and the library computers need to be able to get gay porn......also, marry a dog or a horse or don't marry them, just screw them,don't want to get tied down you know. (No no you have it all wrong. We need to beat kids who touch themselves and cut off their genitalia. We need to go back to teaching the earth is the center of the universe and release bubonic plague to focus the mind. We need to elect the Taliban to run the country.) I don't need the law or even the Bible to tell me it is wrong to kill, steal, commit adultery, bear false witness, etc. I just know, just like I know it is wrong to live as a homosexual. (And that is exactly why you are a bigot. You just know. You have no argument, you just know. You can't put forward a single rational reason for why you feel the way you do but you know you feel it and therefore you must be right. You are a demented loon, but it's OK. You have every right to live out your hallucinatory dementia. You have in common with every other psychopath on the planet the absolute certainty that you are right.) Screwing up a kids mind depends on your definition of that statement. (Yup it sure does. You are a lunatic fanatic bigoted nut-case and you will judge by your insane definition for sure. We all know that. That's what makes you nuts.) Just because you say it...it must be true as I have a great deal of respect for your opinion. (You have only opinion and a bigoted one at that. You have a bigoted belief that has as it's fantastic foundation in logic the fact that you know you are right, Wow. That's impressive.) Different people have different values and morals....or the lack of......I rarely use my faith to argue a point, but in this situation....that is the core of my logic. (That is not logic, fool, it's belief.) I will teach (brainwash like was done unto you )my children that God is the ruler of existence ,Jesus Christ died and arose to pay for sins,and that satan is deceiving people, like you. (You are definitely deceived because what you claim to be truth is opinion) By the definition of the word bigot given above....I guess I am. (Man you sure are, congratulations on the depth or your insight. Logic is wonderful that way. Definition-->description---.conclusion the description fits--.you are the definition) Guess what....so are you, bigoted against people with opinions that vary from yours. (Where do you get that preposterous notion. There is noting irrational or illogical or emotional in defining you as a bigot. It is the result of cold reason.) Typical liberal.....make rules for and define everyone else, but exempt yourself it. (Typical, but of you. I am not the bigot, you are, remember.) This is just another sign of society going straight to hell......(because you are a lunatic, you see signs of your own design. You project your bullsh!t hell on the world and say it stinks) .keep thinking that there will be no consequences. (Here come the threats...the wages of sin are death and bigotry is evil) As a society we have come a long way with technology, medicine, education, but we still haven't conquered death. (Yup bigots die and thank god too. It's about the only way to get rid of them. And bigots are going to hell. In fact they are there already) Your logic is nothing more than a deluded and deceived mind at work. (You say that because you are discovering that truth about yourself.) You have no discernment of anything more than what you can see, touch, taste, smell, or hear....I am sure you hear voices....so did Jeffry Dahmer and Ted Bundy. (Yes yes of course, the mind reading voices in his head lunatic religious fanatic tells me what his voices tell him about me. Jesus are you ever a clown. You sure got a good look at yourself when you saw me.)
Oh..and Moonbeams arguments would hold if I or anyone else on this board were trying to force there opinion down his throat. We are just expressing, as he is, our opinion. (Well we have already seen that yours and his are the opinion of bigots and mine the logic of definition and linguistic accuracy. You get to have your opinion. I get to point out that you are a bigot. I know you hate that. You have a huge ego and can't believe you are really such an idiotic fool, a bigot. You hate yourself so much for being such an ass that you're furious at me. I'm just trying to save you from your horrible mental cage and point out to other wood be bigots what a sad thing it is to be like you.) I don't know about anyone else, but I am not organizing a militia to force my opinion on him. If I am a bigot, then I am not a very committed one. (You just tried dumping thousands of tons of sh!t on me. You are committed all right because your false gigantic ego is pumped up by the notion that you are superior to gays when in fact they are actually, if unbigoted, superior to you.) The whole point of this thread was homosexual books in public schools. (My friend, books are neither male or female and they don't have sex. There is no such thing as a homosexual book, not even the Bible) What two consenting adults do in there own home is there business, but a school has no business trying to influence a child on a social issue like this. (What you call influence is the haze you live in with bigotry. It isn't influence but deprogram as in lessen the impact t of the huge quantity and pervasiveness of homophobic bigotry that every child grows up in. It's sort of like seeing a black and white kid play together for racists. It shows um what fools they are. Naturally you don't want your kids finding that out about you. Hey teacher, my Dad is a bigot. I know Jamie, but you don't have to be. Yea but teach but he puts a lot of pressure on me. I know rotten apples spoil the whole barrel/) They need to teach facts and figures only. (Yup you are a living authority on education like you are on homosexuality and what is right and wrong cause you just know. It must be wonderful living in a delusion where you can make up truth as you go along) wonderful I will decide what my child learns about these issues.....no matter what. (Of course you will. The state hasn't progressed far enough yet to remove children from the homes of psychopaths like you. You still get to f#ck up your kids minds like the asshole you are.)
 

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which has connotative meanings that you don't get, just as are the connotative meanings that are disgraced by your use of the word bigot.
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Your bigotry sees connotation where none exists. You are blinded by hallucinatory connotations so you can't see this. It's not a disgrace to point out that you fit the definition of bigot. We knew that the minute you came on and said that gay sex was bad but had no lo logical reasons that backed that up. We went right down the list you suggested and proved every supposed rational reason you presented as an illusion coming straight out of bigotry. You are right and as proof you offer your word on it. Hehe. That's why you're the bigot and not me. And that's disgraceful. But I like ButtCrack64 better than you cause he's up front with his insanity and don't try to dress it up with lipstick like you do. And I just can't get out of my mind the horrible thought that somebody our there is having sex with woman after woman. I'll agree with you. That guy is a filthy bastard cause I hate being green.
 
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Your bigotry sees connotation where none exists
here are the words so you can see what they intend:

whoremaster: a man consorting with whores or given to lechery
lechery: inordinate indulgence in sexual activity
whore: Noun 1 : a promiscuous or immoral woman
whore: Verb 2 : to pursue a faithless, unworthy, or idolatrous desire, to corrupt by lewd intercourse see debauch
debauch: 2 a : to lead away from virtue or excellence b : to corrupt by intemperance or sensuality
We knew that the minute you came on and said that gay sex was bad but had no lo logical reasons that backed that up
following every logical ethical standard i put forth my case and you retorted with 'bigot'; If you had an argument you'd lay out logical points, as opposed to yelling 'bigot'; Others gave respectable opinions that i disagree with, but with further information in their favor would cause me to change my perspective; it's just that you lacked any true thought.

/honk moon's clown-nose.
 

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Your bigotry sees connotation where none exists
here are the words so you can see what they intend:

whoremaster: a man consorting with whores or given to lechery
lechery: inordinate indulgence in sexual activity
whore: Noun 1 : a promiscuous or immoral woman
whore: Verb 2 : to pursue a faithless, unworthy, or idolatrous desire, to corrupt by lewd intercourse see debauch
debauch: 2 a : to lead away from virtue or excellence b : to corrupt by intemperance or sensuality
We knew that the minute you came on and said that gay sex was bad but had no lo logical reasons that backed that up
following every logical ethical standard i put forth my case and you retorted with 'bigot'; If you had an argument you'd lay out logical points, as opposed to yelling 'bigot'; Others gave respectable opinions that i disagree with, but with further information in their favor would cause me to change my perspective; it's just that you lacked any true thought.

/honk moon's clown-nose.

I need to know when sexual activity becomes inordinate and or indulgence and what indulgence is. Inordinate and indulgence sound like the connote something bad, but what is it. I get the impression but I lack a logical basis for how to apply judgment. Is sex with ten women a day bad but sex ten times a day with one OK?

Promiscuous sounds real nasty. Is it? How do I know that being promiscuous isn't something good? It sounds bad but it sounds good too.
to corrupt by intemperance or sensuality
I also don't know what faithless, unworthy, or idolatrous are. Are those bad? If so why? Especially what is virtue and excellence. How does intemperance or sensuality corrupt.

Please help me out here and don't go in circles. I know bigots automatically know the meaning of all these big words, but I don't. I'm only a clown with a big nose.

 

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you are like a kid that learned a new word and uses it to describe everyone whose opinion you do not understand. Like you're saying a word because you like the way it sounds. Everyone has a prejudice, everyone. People are going to do what people are going to do.....and nothing I say is going to change it. The world is full of differing opinions. If you want to be gay.....knock yourself out. (you called me buttcrack64....freudian slip? or you were thinking buttcrack69?) whatever the case.....I don't tell people how to live.....it is their decision. You sound like a salesman making up rhetoric to get your point across, then when you don't you start with the namecalling. You are the one who is closedminded. The real freedom is the right to express my opinion. You are an egomaniac as evidenced by your self righteous drivel. You haven't given anymore of a logical reason why your opinion is what it is than I have.....just vague sarcasm and insults. Way to debate pinhead......and my insane ranting continues..........like it or don't.....
 

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you are like a kid that learned a new word and uses it to describe everyone whose opinion you do not understand. (Hehe, what's to understand. Bigoted drivel spew isn't complex or anything. I understand ignorant real good. Ignorant is easy.) Like you're saying a word because you like the way it sounds. (I think it's more because no bigot likes to know he's a bigot and needs to see what he is. You can just look up bigot for yourself and see it applies to you.) Everyone has a prejudice, everyone. (Right, all bigots think that because they project. That's another word I like, projector. That's somebody who sees himself in others) People are going to do what people are going to do.....and nothing I say is going to change it. (Yes but we can tell them they are bigoted fools now can't we. We wouldn't want to let evil go unopposed now would we.) The world is full of differing opinions. (Yes, some like mine based on reason and some like yours based on unconscious bias you can't shake and can't remember acquiring.) If you want to be gay.....knock yourself out. I can't choose to be gay, but you can prove to me gayness is choice by making love to a man.) you called me buttcrack64....freudian slip? or you were thinking buttcrack69? whatever the case.....(Yeah, whatever the case) I don't tell people how to live.....it is their decision. (I don't either. I do however inform bigots of their status) You sound like a salesman making up rhetoric to get your point across, then when you don't you start with the namecalling. (I get my point across just fine, as witnessed by your rage) You are the one who is closedminded. (To a bigot people who can't buy into his bigotry are closed minded) The real freedom is the right to express my opinion. (Damn that's impressive. You get to express your bigoted stupid opinion. Great! Then I get to come along and cogently point out that you are a bigot. It's good for you, it's honest of me, everybody wins.) You are an egomaniac as evidenced by your self righteous drivel. (Actually I have no ego here. It's you whose big fat ego got called on it's bigotry. You just think it takes a big ego to d=confront a fat head. It doesn't. It just takes the definition of bigot and a comparison of that to your words. Then anybody can see you're a bigot. Again you are projecting on me.)You haven't given anymore of a logical reason why your opinion is what it is than I have.....(You are as blind as a bigot, oddly enough and so you can't see the logic that's plain to see. You hold an irrational opinion based of a religious preconception and that makes you a bigot. That's what a bigot is. That isn't an opinion of mine. It's a fact by definition) just vague sarcasm and insults. (Bigots are always pissed off by being told who they are) Way to debate pinhead......(I can't debate pinhead because pinhead isn't in the debate. He is just spouting his bigotry and is deaf to my words) and my insane ranting continues (Of that there is no doubt)..........like it or don't.....(This is where the bigot pumps himself up like a balloon and pronounces to the world, I am a bigot and proud of it. See me express my bigoted opinion!) No please continue by all means. (Have no fear. I certainly will. You are alot more refreshing than LMK who is too reserved to let his bigotry hang out on the line like you do.

 

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Oh.... I'm a social liberal... (fiscal conservative) which means I align with the democratic platform on social issues and am very much a Christian.


If you support the democratic party and its platform/ideals of abortion, gay marriage, God out of our public lifes, etc...

then your a Christian in dire need of rebuke then repentance at best, and certainly not a "strong Christian"
 

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Originally posted by: Romans828
Oh.... I'm a social liberal... (fiscal conservative) which means I align with the democratic platform on social issues and am very much a Christian.


If you support the democratic party and its platform/ideals of abortion, gay marriage, God out of our public lifes, etc...

then your a Christian in dire need of rebuke then repentance at best, and certainly not a "strong Christian"

Describe to us your faith life, friend, since you so eloquently and omnisciently described his.
 

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I draw the line at people presentling themselves as "strong Christians" and then embracing things unholy and against God.

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, its that simple.
 

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Originally posted by: Romans828
I draw the line at people presentling themselves as "strong Christians" and then embracing things unholy and against God.

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, its that simple.
Who gives a fsck where you draw a line. You aren't Jesus or anybody of consequence that another Christian should worry about.

 

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Originally posted by: Romans828
I draw the line at people presentling themselves as "strong Christians" and then embracing things unholy and against God.

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, its that simple.

No, please, describe to us your faith life, since you judged his in such a manner. I'll wait for you to type it all out.

And I not so respectfully disagree; a person who votes Democratic may not agree with abortion, welfare, or any other contentious issue, yet may still feel compelled to vote because they care less for the Republican candidate. See those people in the middle? They're called "moderates", and their religion has nothing to do with their political affiliation.
 

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Romans828
I draw the line at people presentling themselves as "strong Christians" and then embracing things unholy and against God.

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, its that simple.

No, please, describe to us your faith life, since you judged his in such a manner. I'll wait for you to type it all out.

And I not so respectfully disagree; a person who votes Democratic may not agree with abortion, welfare, or any other contentious issue, yet may still feel compelled to vote because they care less for the Republican candidate. See those people in the middle? They're called "moderates", and their religion has nothing to do with their political affiliation.


and their religion has nothing to do with their political affiliation.

of course it does........... it has to

My faith life? its simple I am a sinner saved from the penalty of sin by Christ Jesus.
 

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Originally posted by: Romans828

of course it does........... it has to

My faith life? its simple I am a sinner saved from the penalty of sin by Christ Jesus.

Why does it have to? Elaborate on this point, please.
 

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Originally posted by: Romans828
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Romans828
I draw the line at people presentling themselves as "strong Christians" and then embracing things unholy and against God.

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, its that simple.

No, please, describe to us your faith life, since you judged his in such a manner. I'll wait for you to type it all out.

And I not so respectfully disagree; a person who votes Democratic may not agree with abortion, welfare, or any other contentious issue, yet may still feel compelled to vote because they care less for the Republican candidate. See those people in the middle? They're called "moderates", and their religion has nothing to do with their political affiliation.


and their religion has nothing to do with their political affiliation.

of course it does........... it has to

My faith life? its simple I am a sinner saved from the penalty of sin by Christ Jesus.

If that were true you wouldn't be a bigot. Of course, you could have been offered a deal by the Devil.
 

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Romans828

of course it does........... it has to

My faith life? its simple I am a sinner saved from the penalty of sin by Christ Jesus.

Why does it have to? Elaborate on this point, please.



Jesus said you know a tree by the fruit it bares. The spirit manifests in truth, a person aligns himself/herself with lightness or darkness. Christians who would allow themselves to be used in servcie to darkness represents a house divided which can not stand.

Religion or more to the point Christianity is not something you can turn off and on or compartmentalize. To say your just a Democrate along certain lines while overlooking other questionable practices your kidding yourself.

Moderates or finding middle ground does not exist when it comes to being a Christian. You stand for Jesus and against the powers of darkness.

 

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We can look at this with the power of reason and see if it's from a bigot or a rational mind:

"Jesus said you know a tree by the fruit it bares."

What he said and what he meant aren't necessarily the property of every reader. What you call fruit may in fact be a rotten apple. A bigot will be sure that he knows what fruit is even though it's only bigot fruit. You will know him by that smell.

"The spirit manifests in truth, a person aligns himself/herself with lightness or darkness."

This can be uttered by those without the slightest inner perception of its true meaning. We can tell nothing from the utterance about the mind which speaks. A bigot can quote scripture. A bigot already knows what is light and what is dark without thought, analysis, self questioning, or modesty because that's what a bigot is, somebody who knows he knows because he knows. That's the smell that points to the fruit of bigotry.

"Christians who would allow themselves to be used in servcie to darkness represents a house divided which can not stand."

If true why and after that please describe to me why it isn't you who are in the service of darkness rather than the other guy. You are aware, are you not, of the log in your own eye. How did you become so judgmental belonging as you do to a religion that teaches love? Maybe you hid behind the door when humility was passed out. A bigot has a pointy finger sticking out as part of his fruit pointing to himself.

"Religion or more to the point Christianity is not something you can turn off and on or compartmentalize."

Again this is something anybody can say and still be in a state of complete compartmentalization. A bigot wouldn't notice that though and that's part of his fruit smell.

"To say your just a Democrate along certain lines while overlooking other questionable practices your kidding yourself."

That is something a bigot would likely say because he can bring no real facts to bare. All a bigot can do is pose innuendo as if it were something intelligent to say. A bigot is kidding himself and will project that and accuse others of just that very thing. This is part of that business of knowing them by their fruit. I can smell the fruit of bigotry way over here.

"Moderates or finding middle ground does not exist when it comes to being a Christian."

That is true of any fanatic, bigot, or religious nut-case you care to point to. For the bigot there is only his bigotry. I still smell bigot fruit.

"You stand for Jesus and against the powers of darkness."

Assuming you know who Jesus and the powers of darkness are. A person who knows Jesus knows he is a worthless sinner who knows nothing at all. A person who knows nothing at all knows he knows nothing at all about Jesus or darkness because he is conscious only of his worthless sinful nature. A person who knows Jesus knows that he and He live only in crucifixion. If you aren't dying you aren't alive. He who is dead falls lovingly into a mirror that reflects the universe. Oh my Beloved, wherever I look it appears to be Thou.
 

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The only standard to use in dealing with 'granting' what is already guaranteed is if the individual is in pursuit of or participating in a legally sanctioned 'thing'.
What ever our own moral value judgments are on a subject are irrelevant when it comes to 'Rights'. Only the legality of such matters. While it is possible to legislate or enact or interpret law based on a view that parallels that of a 'moral' majority it may not subvert the legal aspects of the minority even if that or those aspect(s) is (are) amoral or immoral.

It seems to me that in order to be bigoted against a group or an individual the fundamental test is whether or not it is illegal. I don't see how a person could be 'labeled' a bigot when speaking about an illegal activity but, when one speaks or seeks to deny a group or individual the same rights they enjoy simply because the group or individual enjoys a different moral view or ethnic participation etc... they have become bigoted... they deny the basic right to exist to that group based on their own view and for the life of me I can't understand why. This ain't church... this is society at large with all the equality that the Constitution and its interpretations guarantee this society of individuals.
 

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Originally posted by: Romans828
Oh.... I'm a social liberal... (fiscal conservative) which means I align with the democratic platform on social issues and am very much a Christian.


If you support the democratic party and its platform/ideals of abortion, gay marriage, God out of our public lifes, etc...

then your a Christian in dire need of rebuke then repentance at best, and certainly not a "strong Christian"

You are a carpenter best dealing with the lumber in thy own view. You forget you live in a society of humans not all of which believe as you do. My relationship with my Savior has not to do with the Smiths down the road, a family of anti-religious folks who have as much right to live here as I do. In fact, the Smiths are greatly offended by any reference to a God or Heaven. But, they let you and me live as we may so long as it don't interfere with their rights. We live by laws here. Rights of the individual have not to do with God, Heaven or how to get there.

 

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Originally posted by: Romans828
I draw the line at people presentling themselves as "strong Christians" and then embracing things unholy and against God.

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, its that simple.

As I understand it and believe a Christian accepts Jesus as their Savior. Plain and simple! A strong Christian has no doubt about this. I have not the slightest doubt. But, neither do I live in heaven.. I live here on Earth, in the USA. Here abouts we, the citizens, protect the 'Rights' of ALL the folks. The rights that we demand for ourselves are no different than the rights others demand for themselves.. God ain't in Congress... folks are.. some of these folks ain't Christian.. imagine that...

 

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Romans828
I draw the line at people presentling themselves as "strong Christians" and then embracing things unholy and against God.

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, its that simple.

No, please, describe to us your faith life, since you judged his in such a manner. I'll wait for you to type it all out.

And I not so respectfully disagree; a person who votes Democratic may not agree with abortion, welfare, or any other contentious issue, yet may still feel compelled to vote because they care less for the Republican candidate. See those people in the middle? They're called "moderates", and their religion has nothing to do with their political affiliation.

I don't support abortion, welfare, or other issues... FOR ME but, for everyone else, they can decide for themselves how they legally wish to live.. and I'll support their right to decide those issues... that are legal... if illegal.. then the courts are there to adjudicate the issue... not me..

 
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I'm only a clown ...
I know, and if you can't answer the questions posed to me for yourself then you're in need of some personal soul searching; The point is that morality clauses aren't rare nor illegal in an employment agreement, and no matter how much you distract from the issue it's not the place of the state to sexualized 8 year olds.

so stop playing the fool on this one, it's gotten boring, I'm sure you can do a better job on something else.
 
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Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: Romans828
I draw the line at people presentling themselves as "strong Christians" and then embracing things unholy and against God.

YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, its that simple.

No, please, describe to us your faith life, since you judged his in such a manner. I'll wait for you to type it all out.

And I not so respectfully disagree; a person who votes Democratic may not agree with abortion, welfare, or any other contentious issue, yet may still feel compelled to vote because they care less for the Republican candidate. See those people in the middle? They're called "moderates", and their religion has nothing to do with their political affiliation.

I don't support abortion, welfare, or other issues... FOR ME but, for everyone else, they can decide for themselves how they legally wish to live.. and I'll support their right to decide those issues... that are legal... if illegal.. then the courts are there to adjudicate the issue... not me..

It's not anyone's place to question you Christianity, less to rebuke you if your actions are causing your neighbor to stumble.

I'd like to submit that supporting the legalization of abortion is causing your brother to stumble. What think you?