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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well considering that those 2 ships were off the west coast of Canada and they got a response from an Oriental voice and the three ships mentioned early were said to be " have been steaming around in ever-decreasing circles." in the Indian ocean i really doubt they are the same ships.
Well both stories are quite similar. I don't pretend to know how often ships go around doing what these are doing.

The US Navy has been doing a pretty tight blockade of Iraqs Port, it would seem unlikely that anything got out. If they did, we would have searched them.
 
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well considering that those 2 ships were off the west coast of Canada and they got a response from an Oriental voice and the three ships mentioned early were said to be " have been steaming around in ever-decreasing circles." in the Indian ocean i really doubt they are the same ships.
Well both stories are quite similar. I don't pretend to know how often ships go around doing what these are doing.

The US Navy has been doing a pretty tight blockade of Iraqs Port, it would seem unlikely that anything got out. If they did, we would have searched them.

"The ships are thought to have set sail from a country other than Iraq to avoid running the gauntlet of Western naval vessels patrolling the Gulf"

I call it reading.
 
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well considering that those 2 ships were off the west coast of Canada and they got a response from an Oriental voice and the three ships mentioned early were said to be " have been steaming around in ever-decreasing circles." in the Indian ocean i really doubt they are the same ships.
Well both stories are quite similar. I don't pretend to know how often ships go around doing what these are doing.

The US Navy has been doing a pretty tight blockade of Iraqs Port, it would seem unlikely that anything got out. If they did, we would have searched them.
Yep they've risen the inspection rate up to around 90% I think the news said. Although I suppose it's possible the ships came out of a different port with the goods transported on land.

 
15 Freighters Believed to Be Linked To Al Qaeda
U.S. Fears Terrorists at Sea; Tracking Ships Is Difficult
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By John Mintz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 31, 2002; Page A01


U.S. intelligence officials have identified approximately 15 cargo freighters around the world that they believe are controlled by al Qaeda or could be used by the terrorist network to ferry operatives, bombs, money or commodities over the high seas, government officials said.

American spy agencies track some of the suspicious ships by satellites or surveillance planes and with the help of allied navies or informants in overseas ports. But they have occasionally lost track of the vessels, which are continually given new fictitious names, repainted or re-registered using invented corporate owners, all while plying the oceans.

As they scramble to keep tabs on the largely unregulated and secretive global maritime industry, U.S. officials have no end of worries about how nautical terrorists could attack U.S. or allied ports or vessels, officials said. They cite such scenarios as al Qaeda dispatching an explosives-packed speedboat to blow a hole in the hull of a luxury cruise ship sailing the Caribbean Sea or having terrorists posing as crewmen commandeer a freighter carrying dangerous chemicals and slam it into a harbor.

Concerned about the vulnerabilities of American shipping since Sept. 11, 2001, U.S. officials have started paying more attention than ever to what cargo is loaded onto ships entering U.S. waters, and to who serves on crews, as well as to stowaways and individuals who appear to be surveying U.S. ports.

In addition, U.S. intelligence agencies have set up large databases to track cargo, ships and seamen in a search for "anomalies" that could indicate terrorists on approaching ships, said Frances Fragos-Townsend, chief of Coast Guard intelligence.

"If all you do is wait for ships to come to you, you're not doing your job," she said. "The idea is to push the borders out."

Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda's leader, and his aides have owned ships for years, some of which transported such commodities as cement and sesame seeds. But one vessel delivered the explosives that al Qaeda operatives used to bomb two U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998, U.S. officials said.

Since September 2001, the U.S.-maintained list of al Qaeda mystery ships has varied from a low of a dozen to a high of 50. Some are ships up to 400 feet long that do not need to refuel on extended journeys, and therefore are less likely to draw scrutiny. U.S. officials do not know precisely how each of these "ships of concern" is being used, except that some are generating profits for al Qaeda. Any of them could be used in an attack anywhere in the world, officials fear.
 
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