Mysterious Video Card Instability?

morfinx

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Hello everyone,

I recently purchased an ATI X850 Pro AGP off of ebay, installed a Zalman VF700 on it and threw it in the case. Unfortunately this one could not be unlocked to 16 pipelines, so I just did some overclocking on it, and load temperatures were good. However when I loop 3DMark, it would eventually lock up. By this I mean the screen goes black (and on rare occasions it was filled with artifacst). I tried to following:

1) Lowering AGP speed from 8X to 4X. From what I've seen, this does not lower the performance any. My last card (9600XT) had major stability issues running at 8X, but was stable at 4X.
2) Lowering clock speed back down to the Stock 500/500 on the X850
3) Disabled ATI Hotkey Poller and ATI Smart services
4) Checked voltage in SpeedFan, 12V rail shows 11.04V, yikes! Knowing that software voltage readings are often grossly inaccurate, I took out my DMM and measured directly from a molex connector. 12V rail goes between 12.02 to 11.94V idle/load, and 5V rail is 5.12V/5.13V idle/load. Both are well within the +/-5% limit.
5) I checked the temperatures before and after overclocking to see if it's temperature related. Before idle/load is 38C/58C, after is 39C/60C. Which I believe is actually cooler than stock speeds w/ stock cooling.

It still does the same thing. The CPU is stable for sure (Primed over 24 hrs), I've been running it at this speed for over a year. No problem w/ RAM either, Memtest over 24 hrs stable, same with Prime95 blended test. I've installed the latest Omega drivers. There are two BIOS update available for my mobo, however one enables dual-core support, the other enables E6 stepping, so I did not install either. My PSU is an Enlight 420W which has served me well for the last few years. The rest of my rig is in my sig.

I am quickly running out of ideas. I would like to have it running stable when Oblivion comes out. Any help or suggestion would be greatly appreciated!
 

Vinnybcfc

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Sounds like the card isnt well at all spoken to the seller? Could always try normal catalyst drivers but that would be very unlikely that the omegas have caused the problems
 

morfinx

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No I have not spoken to the seller, which liquidates eletronics. I havn't heard anyone have problem with the Omega drivers, so I'm not sure it's anything related to that.
 

mwmorph

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what did you use to install the zalman? the regular zalman paste or as5 like so many other people?
 

mwmorph

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take it off and wipe it off. if any got on the ressitors surrounding the gpu core, make sure iyt is 100% clean. AS5 is capacative and it could have already permenantly damaged your card already.

Caution:
While much safer than silver greases engineered for high electrical conductivity, Arctic Silver thermal compound should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. The compound is slightly capacitive and could cause problems if it bridged two close-proximity electrical paths.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm
 

GOREGRINDER

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lowering the bandwidth to 4x was the only solution for my old 9800pro on any via chipset,(at the time was a soyo dragon ultra and an msi i had in another pc,both via chipsets)... i feel this may be the case with yours as well im sorry to say,. though like you said,.. you wont see really any perfromance hits from it so no biggie,.. only real cure was when the a64's came out i snagged an nforce3/754 and it ran at 8x just fine



 

morfinx

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
take it off and wipe it off. if any got on the ressitors surrounding the gpu core, make sure iyt is 100% clean. AS5 is capacative and it could have already permenantly damaged your card already.

Caution:
While much safer than silver greases engineered for high electrical conductivity, Arctic Silver thermal compound should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. The compound is slightly capacitive and could cause problems if it bridged two close-proximity electrical paths.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm


mwmorph, good suggestion, but I was careful and only put a small blob in the center of the core as AS instruction says.

Goregrinder, I've tried lowering it to 4X, but had no effect on the stability this time.
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: morfinx
Originally posted by: mwmorph
take it off and wipe it off. if any got on the ressitors surrounding the gpu core, make sure iyt is 100% clean. AS5 is capacative and it could have already permenantly damaged your card already.

Caution:
While much safer than silver greases engineered for high electrical conductivity, Arctic Silver thermal compound should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. The compound is slightly capacitive and could cause problems if it bridged two close-proximity electrical paths.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm


mwmorph, good suggestion, but I was careful and only put a small blob in the center of the core as AS instruction says.

Goregrinder, I've tried lowering it to 4X, but had no effect on the stability this time.


that's the problem. A rice grain size is enough to cover the entire amd64/p4 heat spreader.
 

morfinx

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mwmorph, that is what I meant, just a very small blob. However I will check that when I get home from work regardless. Better safe than sorry.
 

Rottie

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I am running x850 Pro with 8x no problem and still run with stock speed with stock fan. I did OC my card with same 8x and fan just fine.
And I have not disable anything on CCC 6.2 except for aa/af setting....run just wonderful for the past 3 months. But CCC has some issues with net framework 1.1 at shut down :(