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My wife just told me about the most depressing thing I've heard in a while...

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Originally posted by: stonecold3169
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Some of you people in addition to making me physically ill,make me weep when I consider the future prospects of the human race.

I'm gonna use a word that most of you never heard and are in dire need of!

Shame! Shame on you! May you never,ever make a mistake,may you and your family never suffer such a horrific fate!

Shame on you!,go to your rooms without supper! Never have I been more embarrassed to admit that I am a member here!
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With all due respect, and correct me if I'm wrong... but do you not frequently talk negatively and wish horrible things to your exhusband for cheating on you? Shame, shame on you, he made a mistake! And now you live vicariously feeling as though you should cheat on every guy on earth as revenge... that is disgusting and dispicable.

Oh, wait, I forgot, that doesn't fit your life, you can only shame people to make your life seem better.


In a more relevant posting, the girl definitely didn't deserve this, and the guy should definitely be either executed, treated, or locked up for the rest of his life, where he can never have a chance to do this again. As for how I feel in the matter, she made mistakes, it's true, and in a way from a situation involving hard drug abuse with children, she should have known something was going to give, be it this, or the children getting into their stash, etc.

However, I applaude her for trying to switch her life around. I'd be curious to see when she gave up drug use herself, and how long she has been with the guy and all of that. I'd also be curious to see exactly what transpired at that house when she went to talk to him, and exactly how she carried herself while she was there, and if there is anything else to go along with this other then her just leaving him. again, not that it would make her deserve this, but just as much as we can't asume she was at fault, we can't assume she was a heroic angel either, you know?




PS: Geekbabe, I'm sorry that that came out the way it did, I'm just saying that EVERYONE has points of view that differ from other people's, that doesn't mean you can act above everyone, it's better just to try and understand I guess. For what it's worth, in general I agree with you on thsi subject🙂
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Since when is wishing self-knowledge on another person the same as wishing them beaten to a bloody pulp,stuffed in the trunk of a car and burned alive?If somebody did this to my ex,I'd help hunt them down and see to it that they got the death penalty.

In my experience there is almost nothing human being fear more than death by fire,as evidence I submit those horrid videos from 9/11 of those poor SOB's jumping to their deaths to esacape being burned alive.That anybody here can read this young woman's story and say"she deserved it" is wrong!
 
Originally posted by: Chunkee
i used to work in burn unit, if she truly has 90% 3rd degree burns, she wont live....and really, in her condition, there is no reason to. IT is truly sad.

JC
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Per the original post, she had 90% coverage on the front side of her body. Her backside wasn't as bad. Either way, it's still quite possibly one of the most painful and miserable things that can happen to a person.
 
This is a very sad case indeed.

IMO it would be a bad idea to give this guy the death penalty, particularly if she lives. Although he apparently committed a horrible crime, he did ultimately regain his sanity, and in a real sense saved her life. Giving him the death penalty would effectively tell other offenders they are better off killing their victims (thus not leaving a potential witness) than rethinking and stopping an attack midstream.

I wouldn't say she deserved this at all, but she did assume a risk by approaching a known abuser and meth addict, and breaking up with him face to face rather than just leaving. Obviously she has paid a terrible price.
 
After reading this thread, two things come to mind. 1. I feel sorry for that lady and 2. I fscking hate MAME.
 
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
That anybody here can read this young woman's story and say"she deserved it" is wrong!
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Omfg, nobody has said she deserved it!!!
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Try page 1 Mame starts off the round with "no offence but it's her own damn fault".
 
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
That anybody here can read this young woman's story and say"she deserved it" is wrong!
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Omfg, nobody has said she deserved it!!!
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Try page 1 Mame starts off the round with "no offence but it's her own damn fault".
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That doesn't mean he said she deserved it, it means she brought it on herself.
 
In all fairness to Mame, it's clearly partially her fault. As I said above, I am NOT blaming her or saying she deserved this horrific attack, but she had a history of being abused by this guy and apparently knew he was a meth user. The smarter approach to leaving him would have been, well, to leave, rather than confronting him. She went into a lion's den and paid an awful price.
 
Originally posted by: OMGoddess
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
That anybody here can read this young woman's story and say"she deserved it" is wrong!
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Omfg, nobody has said she deserved it!!!
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Try page 1 Mame starts off the round with "no offence but it's her own damn fault".
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That doesn't mean he said she deserved it, it means she brought it on herself.
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If you don't get how heartless some of the comments in this thread are,there's no way on earth it could be explained to you.Christ,I can't sleep thinking about how horribly that woman suffered.
 
Yeah, the comments are heartless, but like I stated about 17 posts above, the world just keeps going whether we like it or not. It's the sad truth, she will be missed, and pitied by you, the forum members, and I, but within a couple days she'll be won't even be an electron in our brain nerves.
 
Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: thebenjamins
Originally posted by: vi_edit
My wife is doing rotations in a hospital pharmacy that overlooks a burn unit. The other day they got a woman in that they don't think is going to live.

She's 26 years old, and a mother of 3 kids. This woman was in an abusive relationship with some meth-head and wanted out. She drove over to the guys place to tell him it was over and get some of her stuff back. The guy flipped out (was on meth at the time) and beat her to a bloody pulp. He drug her out of the house, threw her in the trunk of the car and drove over to a friends house in the country where he doused her with gasoline and set her on fire. After a few minutes her screaming finally pulled him out of whatever psychotic trance he was in and he managed to get the flames put out and called the ambulance.

This woman has about 90% of the skin on the front of her body burned off, including her breasts and ears. The woman used to do opiates and because of that she has a huge resistance to the morphine they are giving her so she isn't managing the pain well. Most of the staff is amazed she's still alive.

It's just a really, really ugly situation 🙁 Even if she doesn't pass away, I think the guy should get the death penalty. He should be revoked of any privledge to walk this earth that he previously had.

Situations like this just really make the death penalty a viable option.
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would you hit it?
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ok, wtf is this
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If there is anyone who would know wtf this is, it would be you, sir.
 
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: OMGoddess
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
That anybody here can read this young woman's story and say"she deserved it" is wrong!
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Omfg, nobody has said she deserved it!!!
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Try page 1 Mame starts off the round with "no offence but it's her own damn fault".
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That doesn't mean he said she deserved it, it means she brought it on herself.
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If you don't get how heartless some of the comments in this thread are,there's no way on earth it could be explained to you.Christ,I can't sleep thinking about how horribly that woman suffered.
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What's so heartless about expressing regret, creating an inventive way for the guy who did it to die, and commenting on how she made choices which increased her risk of having something bad happen to her? It's what most posters have done, myself included, and I see nothing wrong with it. Nothing any of us can say could change her situation. The logical next step is to consider ways to lower the chances of something similar happening, which starts with behavior.
 
(I haven't read the entire thread so if this has already been mentioned, forgive me.)

Plaster this story EVERWHERE LOCALLY including their names and pictures. Set this man free in the middle of town. See how long he lasts. Print a story with pictures afterwards as a warning to meth users.
 
Originally posted by: DorkBoy
Originally posted by: MAME
no offence but it's her own damn fault
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you're an idiot
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Pretty much. you can't say she's at fault for this. you could say she should have made better choices. But Fault means she caused it to happen or contributed to it happening. This isn't the case because she had no way of knowing he would flip out like that.

How many times have I heard people claim illicit drugs are just recreational and harmless? And how many incidents like this will it take before people realize anything that alters your mental state can be dangerous?

Yes even alcohol. May I remind you of what happened to Phil Hartman?

Humans are the most dangerous creatures on the planet. Do you really want any of them more fscked up in the head than they already are?
 
That something like that can happen to anyone (regardless of the mistakes they might have made in their lives) makes me very sad.

My hat's off to your wife for pursuing a career that has to cause her emotional distress when she has to help care and comfort people who are suffering like this woman. I suspect that it also affects you too. Thanks for being there.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: MAME
no offence but it's her own damn fault
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Not really, but I totally see where you're coming from.

She's a low-life drug user who hangs around with other low-life drug users. She put herself in a position a long time ago where something bad was eventually going to happen to her. Sure, she's not as much a low-life as the fvck who set her on fire, but she hardly sounds like the type of person you really want to be around.
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Totally agree.
 
While I don't enitrely agree with MAME on this one, It seems that that kind of lifestyle can get you into trouble. I have friends who are total drug abusers. Don't get me wrong, I have used quite a few drugs that would probably make people think I am a "total Loser" . But I also realized that there is experimentation. And then there is choosing to live the life of a drug user. I happened to see it first hand, as my "best friend" chose to live the life. I didn't want to live like that so I had to choose to cut off almost all contact with my "best friend" simply because he chose to keep living in his dream world of drugs and alcohol.

Don't get me wrong, this is still a terrible thing to do to another human being...

But as human beings, we can chose our own paths and actions. It is harder for a hard drug user to find a place in society. But it is not IMPOSSIBLE.
 
I can't see how it is her "fault." That guy set her on fire and she couldn't control that. Perhaps her years of drug abuse and lifestyle led to her being in the situation, but I have compassion for people. I wish her the best and hope her treatment goes well. How anyone can take joy or lack compassion in this is beyond me.
 
Hopefully this woman makes it through. They should do to that man what he did to that poor woman. I feel bad for the children involved in this situation. This has to be very rough on them.

And for those of you saying it's her fault, I can see how you could say that she got herself in that situation, but she was trying to leave him when this happened. She was trying to start a better, probably drug-free life, without people like him in it. He was in control of his own actions. He is the one at fault.


: ) Amanda
 
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