My Swan M200 speakers sound like crap :(

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Let me quote you on this: "Please show me what $3k setup could give you a clean transparent sound." (also bolded above) - Didn't you mean that for $3000, one could not acquire a high-fidelity (slightly different from hi-fi, IMO) stereo system?

No I mean that for $3k, I'm doubting that you can get a system that sounds like his. A setup that sounds like you're in front of a stage, not a setup that feels like you're in your living room listening to speakers.

That's what you meant by "clean transparent sound" And again, my answer is that you CAN get a stereo that does that for $3000.

You said DIY speakers for $1500-2000. So amp/preamp and cdplayer for $1000? I didn't think so.
And by no means am I claiming you need to spend $15k to get a sound like his.

no doubt in the world that i could get a setup for under 3 grand. including wires, amp, (preamp if i feel the need), crossovers, and speakers. are you talking surround, or 2.1? or what?

MIKE

 

[DPmaster]

Originally posted by: fanerman91
That's the difference between $200 and $15000. Not sure if I'll ever spend that much for an audio set-up, but I definitely want something nice. Once I get a job (ie, career)...

It's pretty easy to get carried away and spend gobs of money on something like this. I've already tallied up what my dream HT would cost...I'm already at $26K and that's just for the speakers, pre-amp, and amps. I haven't even looked at DVD players, projectors, or anything else. The hard part is saving up for it Hopefully one day I'll have it.

 

[EvilYoda]

Sonic Frontiers? I'm not quite sure if they still sell new stuff as I thought they went under a few years back when all the small tube companies did...they're now known as Anthem (the one related to Paradigm speakers) and are purely solid state.

Regardless of new/used, still a nice setup...but aside from processing and amplification, what speakers is he running?

And $15K isn't that bad...my system's worth around 10K-11K and it isn't even close to being finished yet. Another batch of upgrades should come in about...4-5 months?

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Let me quote you on this: "Please show me what $3k setup could give you a clean transparent sound." (also bolded above) - Didn't you mean that for $3000, one could not acquire a high-fidelity (slightly different from hi-fi, IMO) stereo system?

No I mean that for $3k, I'm doubting that you can get a system that sounds like his. A setup that sounds like you're in front of a stage, not a setup that feels like you're in your living room listening to speakers.

That's what you meant by "clean transparent sound" And again, my answer is that you CAN get a stereo that does that for $3000.

You said DIY speakers for $1500-2000. So amp/preamp and cdplayer for $1000? I didn't think so.
And by no means am I claiming you need to spend $15k to get a sound like his.

no doubt in the world that i could get a setup for under 3 grand. including wires, amp, (preamp if i feel the need), crossovers, and speakers. are you talking surround, or 2.1? or what?

MIKE

No sh¡t? But one that sounds just as nice or 98% as nice?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Let me quote you on this: "Please show me what $3k setup could give you a clean transparent sound." (also bolded above) - Didn't you mean that for $3000, one could not acquire a high-fidelity (slightly different from hi-fi, IMO) stereo system?

No I mean that for $3k, I'm doubting that you can get a system that sounds like his. A setup that sounds like you're in front of a stage, not a setup that feels like you're in your living room listening to speakers.

That's what you meant by "clean transparent sound" And again, my answer is that you CAN get a stereo that does that for $3000.

You said DIY speakers for $1500-2000. So amp/preamp and cdplayer for $1000? I didn't think so.
And by no means am I claiming you need to spend $15k to get a sound like his.

no doubt in the world that i could get a setup for under 3 grand. including wires, amp, (preamp if i feel the need), crossovers, and speakers. are you talking surround, or 2.1? or what?

MIKE

No sh¡t? But one that sounds just as nice or 98% as nice?

what is his setup? is it surround or 2.1? that really will tell what i can do. i could probably get 80-90% of his sound with a DIY setup.

MIKE

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Sonic Frontiers? I'm not quite sure if they still sell new stuff as I thought they went under a few years back when all the small tube companies did...they're now known as Anthem (the one related to Paradigm speakers) and are purely solid state.

Regardless of new/used, still a nice setup...but aside from processing and amplification, what speakers is he running?

And $15K isn't that bad...my system's worth around 10K-11K and it isn't even close to being finished yet. Another batch of upgrades should come in about...4-5 months?

Yeah he bought it on ebay. He said it costed $3200 retail, but he got it for $800.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

no doubt in the world that i could get a setup for under 3 grand. including wires, amp, (preamp if i feel the need), crossovers, and speakers. are you talking surround, or 2.1? or what?

MIKE

No sh¡t? But one that sounds just as nice or 98% as nice?

what is his setup? is it surround or 2.1? that really will tell what i can do. i could probably get 80-90% of his sound with a DIY setup.

MIKE

surround or 2.1? what audiophiles buys surround or subwoofers in their $15k system?
2.0!

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

no doubt in the world that i could get a setup for under 3 grand. including wires, amp, (preamp if i feel the need), crossovers, and speakers. are you talking surround, or 2.1? or what?

MIKE

No sh¡t? But one that sounds just as nice or 98% as nice?

what is his setup? is it surround or 2.1? that really will tell what i can do. i could probably get 80-90% of his sound with a DIY setup.

MIKE

surround or 2.1? what audiophiles buys surround or subwoofers in their $15k system?
2.0!

holy sh!t for 2.0 i could do it NO problem. speakers would cost 2 grand, and the rest i would get used to toal the final cost.

uh, and btw: there probably is a subwoofer in that system, its just in the same towers, there is no other way to replicate the lows without a sub...

MIKE

 

[EngenZerO]

Originally posted by: fanerman91
That's the difference between $200 and $15000. Not sure if I'll ever spend that much for an audio set-up, but I definitely want something nice. Once I get a job (ie, career)...

i worked my arse off for my meager 3ksetup... i think it sounds great...

i have a svs 25-31pci
ascend acoustics 1xcmt-340c, and 4xcbm-170
harman kardon avr-430 and dvd22

those little bookshelves rock...

 

[spidey07]

[/quote]

holy sh!t for 2.0 i could do it NO problem. speakers would cost 2 grand, and the rest i would get used to toal the final cost.

uh, and btw: there probably is a subwoofer in that system, its just in the same towers, there is no other way to replicate the lows without a sub...

MIKE

[/quote]
yes there is. Just big woofers in the speakers or a full range panel.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

no doubt in the world that i could get a setup for under 3 grand. including wires, amp, (preamp if i feel the need), crossovers, and speakers. are you talking surround, or 2.1? or what?

MIKE

No sh¡t? But one that sounds just as nice or 98% as nice?

what is his setup? is it surround or 2.1? that really will tell what i can do. i could probably get 80-90% of his sound with a DIY setup.

MIKE

surround or 2.1? what audiophiles buys surround or subwoofers in their $15k system?
2.0!

holy sh!t for 2.0 i could do it NO problem. speakers would cost 2 grand, and the rest i would get used to toal the final cost.

uh, and btw: there probably is a subwoofer in that system, its just in the same towers, there is no other way to replicate the lows without a sub...

MIKE

Uh then it's not called a subwoofer. A big woofer can easily replicate the lows. Especially when his woofer is 12".
Also no one gives a crap if you can get 80% of the sound for $3000.

 

[Stark]

wow, does your neighbor heat his house by burning dollar bills?

unless he's in the audio business or a professional musician, he seriously needs to reprioritize his spending habits.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

no doubt in the world that i could get a setup for under 3 grand. including wires, amp, (preamp if i feel the need), crossovers, and speakers. are you talking surround, or 2.1? or what?

MIKE

No sh¡t? But one that sounds just as nice or 98% as nice?

what is his setup? is it surround or 2.1? that really will tell what i can do. i could probably get 80-90% of his sound with a DIY setup.

MIKE

surround or 2.1? what audiophiles buys surround or subwoofers in their $15k system?
2.0!

holy sh!t for 2.0 i could do it NO problem. speakers would cost 2 grand, and the rest i would get used to toal the final cost.

uh, and btw: there probably is a subwoofer in that system, its just in the same towers, there is no other way to replicate the lows without a sub...

MIKE

Uh then it's not called a subwoofer. A big woofer can easily replicate the lows. Especially when his woofer is 12".
Also no one gives a crap if you can get 80% of the sound for $3000.

wtf.... im confused. a woofer, 12" is most likely a sub woofer, used to replicate the sub frequency sounds, aka those under 80Hz. he also probably has a midrange, a mid woofer, and either horns, or tweeters.
With the midwoofer playing from about 80-500 or so hz, the midrange playing 500-3000, and horns playing 3000 on up.

i dont get how you would not call that a subwoofer.

MIKE

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

no doubt in the world that i could get a setup for under 3 grand. including wires, amp, (preamp if i feel the need), crossovers, and speakers. are you talking surround, or 2.1? or what?

MIKE

No sh¡t? But one that sounds just as nice or 98% as nice?

what is his setup? is it surround or 2.1? that really will tell what i can do. i could probably get 80-90% of his sound with a DIY setup.

MIKE

surround or 2.1? what audiophiles buys surround or subwoofers in their $15k system?
2.0!

holy sh!t for 2.0 i could do it NO problem. speakers would cost 2 grand, and the rest i would get used to toal the final cost.

uh, and btw: there probably is a subwoofer in that system, its just in the same towers, there is no other way to replicate the lows without a sub...

MIKE

Uh then it's not called a subwoofer. A big woofer can easily replicate the lows. Especially when his woofer is 12".
Also no one gives a crap if you can get 80% of the sound for $3000.

wtf.... im confused. a woofer, 12" is most likely a sub woofer, used to replicate the sub frequency sounds, aka those under 80Hz. he also probably has a midrange, a mid woofer, and either horns, or tweeters.
With the midwoofer playing from about 80-500 or so hz, the midrange playing 500-3000, and horns playing 3000 on up.

i dont get how you would not call that a subwoofer.

MIKE

It plays the lower midranges too. Subwoofers are dedicated to playing low frequencies.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Stark
wow, does your neighbor heat his house by burning dollar bills?

unless he's in the audio business or a professional musician, he seriously needs to reprioritize his spending habits.

lol I agree. his entire family's vehicles doesn't even cost as much as his speakers. He has a $6k BMW bike, his wife drives an 88 maxima, his son drives a 93 accord.

 

[DPmaster]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Let me quote you on this: "Please show me what $3k setup could give you a clean transparent sound." (also bolded above) - Didn't you mean that for $3000, one could not acquire a high-fidelity (slightly different from hi-fi, IMO) stereo system?

No I mean that for $3k, I'm doubting that you can get a system that sounds like his. A setup that sounds like you're in front of a stage, not a setup that feels like you're in your living room listening to speakers.

That's what you meant by "clean transparent sound" And again, my answer is that you CAN get a stereo that does that for $3000.

You said DIY speakers for $1500-2000. So amp/preamp and cdplayer for $1000? I didn't think so.
And by no means am I claiming you need to spend $15k to get a sound like his.

no doubt in the world that i could get a setup for under 3 grand. including wires, amp, (preamp if i feel the need), crossovers, and speakers. are you talking surround, or 2.1? or what?

MIKE

No sh¡t? But one that sounds just as nice or 98% as nice?

what is his setup? is it surround or 2.1? that really will tell what i can do. i could probably get 80-90% of his sound with a DIY setup.

MIKE

Getting 80%-90% is the easy part. You could probably do it for even less than $3K. Most systems can do that...it's the upper 15%-20% that's difficult to obtain. The hard part is getting a system that can do 98%+ of the more expensive system.

 

[shimsham]

$15k sound for just $485

 

[shimsham]

dont forget the laquer

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

no doubt in the world that i could get a setup for under 3 grand. including wires, amp, (preamp if i feel the need), crossovers, and speakers. are you talking surround, or 2.1? or what?

MIKE

No sh¡t? But one that sounds just as nice or 98% as nice?

what is his setup? is it surround or 2.1? that really will tell what i can do. i could probably get 80-90% of his sound with a DIY setup.

MIKE

surround or 2.1? what audiophiles buys surround or subwoofers in their $15k system?
2.0!

holy sh!t for 2.0 i could do it NO problem. speakers would cost 2 grand, and the rest i would get used to toal the final cost.

uh, and btw: there probably is a subwoofer in that system, its just in the same towers, there is no other way to replicate the lows without a sub...

MIKE

Uh then it's not called a subwoofer. A big woofer can easily replicate the lows. Especially when his woofer is 12".
Also no one gives a crap if you can get 80% of the sound for $3000.

wtf.... im confused. a woofer, 12" is most likely a sub woofer, used to replicate the sub frequency sounds, aka those under 80Hz. he also probably has a midrange, a mid woofer, and either horns, or tweeters.
With the midwoofer playing from about 80-500 or so hz, the midrange playing 500-3000, and horns playing 3000 on up.

i dont get how you would not call that a subwoofer.

MIKE

Its just symantecs. You don't normally call a woofer in a speaker a subwoofer - subwoofers are dedicated to the lowest frequencies (normally below 100 hz)