My stupid cat just caught a bird. Bird very alive.

SHoddyCOmp

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Hmm, what to do with it, i guess tommorow i or my mom can bring it to the bird shelter. Its calming down atleast some though. I didnt see what happened to it untill it attempted to flap its wings (cant quite fly b/c where it was bitten and being carried around) and i saw a slight wound on one side and 2 larger ones i think (i dont really wanna look again and hurt it) on the other side. ouch, sucks to be this bird right now. Its an off topic forum and an off topic topic so here it is. I just kinda hate seeing things hurt, oh well thats what cats do all the time though :(
 

Viperoni

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Hope it makes it okay! :)

Try giving it some water? like from a small cup or something like that.
 

gotsmack

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well if it cought the bird it can't be that stupid. I don't see you catching birds.
 

HappyPuppy

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Cats are supposed to catch birds. Then they play with them. Then they kill them. Sometimes they eat them. You interfered with nature.
 

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<< You interfered with nature. >>



Yes. You are in violation of the prime directive.
 

notfred

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Did you take the bird away from the cat, or did the cat leave it there still alive? If you took it away you messed up. If the cat left it there without eating it, the cat messed up.
 

Lithium381

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that's why i have a snake, it only eats what i put in the cage....unfortunatly, that includes my hand, he's never gotten me, but he's taken a few snaps at me...heh, i have panther quick reflexes :-D
 

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yeah, like Viper said try giving it some water or maybe some food like bread crumbs or something.

Where do you have it, in a cage or something?

Presumably it's a small bird - sparrow-sized? Not pigeon-sized. I've never had a cat so I don't know their habits, but it seems that trying to catch anything bigger than that would be problematic for most cats.

I don't know, this is a tough situation, because on the one hand you hate to see anything suffer, and on the other, it's just a stupid little bird. Related story: We have a mouse problem in our apartment, and my roommates put down some of those sticky mousetraps that the mice run onto and just get stuck there. It's really a pretty cruel way to kill them, since they just sit there, stuck, unable to move, until they starve or something. (Unlike normal mousetraps that snap down and presumably crack their necks.) Anyway, one day we found one that had two mice stuck to it (you know the second mouse was like DOH!) and they were both alive. I felt sorry for them and wanted to set them free (OUTSIDE where they belong of course), so (after putting on a glove to avoid diseases) I tried to un-stick them. Didn't even come close to working, the stuff had like bonded to their skin. I could have pulled them off, but only by leaving thier skin stuck to the mousetrap. So since I was obviously hurting them and they were obviously scared out of their minds, I just pulled their heads off to end their suffering right there. Tough decision but I still think it was the right one.

My roommates thought that I was insane when I tried to set the mice free, and they thought that I was really insane when I tore their heads off! (It's really easy to do with such a small animal.) They also thought that it was contradictory, but I think it was not. In both cases, I was trying to ease the suffering of the mice.

Not that I'm saying that you should kill this bird, but sometimes you have to wonder whether the bird's quality of life during and after rehabilitation will be worth it. Especially if it's a common little bird. I mean -- does it have a family? Perhaps a nest, little babies to take care of? Will they starve if it doesn't come back? Will they starve if it stays in the bird place for a week? What if it takes a week to heal, and it comes back and all of its babies are dead? Will it be sad? (Can birds be sad? I have no idea.)

Of course this is all silly thoughts and speculation, but... I don't know. It's so hard to be pulled two separate directions, one toward compassion and the other toward letting nature take its course.

Okay, enough AT for today. I just start blathering on and I can't stop myself. Must... resist...
 

notfred

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wbwither - I give the bird a 1/25 chance of living. It's got teeth holes in it from an animal 20 times it's size.
 

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<< Cats are supposed to catch birds. Then they play with them. Then they kill them. Sometimes they eat them. You interfered with nature. >>



i don't think domestic cats are too natural to begin with though...
 

SHoddyCOmp

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<< Did you take the bird away from the cat, or did the cat leave it there still alive? If you took it away you messed up. If the cat left it there without eating it, the cat messed up. >>



My cat was nowhere to be seen, i found the bird on the lawn when I was calling my cat in for the night. Earlier though my mom saw Sparky (my cat) waking around with it though, so apparently he just left the bird.



<< Cats are supposed to catch birds. Then they play with them. Then they kill them. Sometimes they eat them. You interfered with nature. >>



Well he didnt did he? :)



<< Presumably it's a small bird - sparrow-sized? Not pigeon-sized. I've never had a cat so I don't know their habits, but it seems that trying to catch anything bigger than that would be problematic for most cats. >>



Nah, its the size of a bald eagle
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, hehe, its small. wbwither, without quoting the whole rest of your post with individual parts i know what you mean but i know exactly where its babies would be anyway if there were any. Theres a nest right on the entrance to my house and i dont hear any of them yet, i think its just part of a little groupy flock. And if it really did get depressed and have feelings and everything they probably actually have a better way of dying than us, stop flapping or run into a window. heh I really dont think it would take too long for it to heal really though, for what i could see when it tried to get out of my hands and flapped its wings over my hand on either side i could see red spods on either side of its body. I didnt see how deep one was but the other side was not deep at all, more like just enough to hold the bird, maybe thats all my cat wanted to do, however it is enough to prevent it from flying well. Pulling heads off mice? If i was a mouse i would personally rather starve than get my head torn off, but if i as a human were to kill em i would just shoot them with my pellet rifle. I believe i think along the same GENERAL lines as you, i see your points though.



<< wbwither - I give the bird a 1/25 chance of living. It's got teeth holes in it from an animal 20 times it's size. >>



The wounds really arent that bad for what I could see anyway, do people die all the time when they get shot? ok that migh tbe pushing it because a lot do, but theyre not that bad, bird probably played dead or something and the cat left it without biting it too terribly hard. Probably a struggle at first but i dont think it got the full tooth bite.