My Socket 939 Dual Core Opteron 165 **Fast Stuff**

[NatePo717]

I am considering getting one of these insted of an X2. I think I'm going to try it on a DFI SLI-DR board with 2 gig's of OCZ Platinum Rev 2 ram. Should get some decient overclocks on that board. I just haven't decided if I want to spend the $$ on the Opteron..

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: modempower

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
Those are the 1MB caches? Nice, can't complain about 2x FX-55s. My X2 hits 2.5 on 1.312 vcore though so I'm starting to think that my Epox's temp senor is borked though since it still says that its hitting 60C with those vcore after re-applying AS5 and tightening my TT down alot better.

What epox do you have? Ive had some weird temp/voltage issues with mine as well. Im curious.

Epox 9NDA3J or something like that. NF3 250 chipset.

 

[RichUK]

well after some more testing and changing the BIOS from the moded TCCD version of the 1B BIOS to the official 1B BIOS, and running a divider of 166, i was able to get the chip stable at 2.7Ghz, at 1.52 volts, this i had stable for 8 hours, the problem is i just havent had the time recently to run a full 12 hours on small FFT's and 12 hours on large FFT's which is what i personally consider fully prime stable, along with quite a few passes ~25 ish of memtest with no errors, and a couple of tests with S&M.

I did notice that with the case panels back on and the case back in the desk, and with the CPU running at 2.7Ghz i was getting a max load temp of 56c and case temp of 28c.

I think the CPU required more voltage for the memory controllers to be able to hold tight timings and high speeds for the RAM, so using the 166 divider i am looking at 245Mhz for the memory clock which I am using now, this is ideal as i will be looking to get the new OCZ 2x1GB 4000EB, which should be able to hold timings of 2.5-3-2-x whilst running at ~245Mhz, and i might see if i can push for 2.75Ghz who knows .. all i can say is this chip rocks .. and dont forget i came from 1.8GHz ..

Question to the people with the X2's, what is the reason why you dont use high voltage as on the single cores? Is it because of high temperature, high current draw, or has it
been documented that voltage excessive of 1.5v can have detrimental effects on the CPU?s life expectancy.

I think it is mainly the temps as I have realised a massive difference between the dual core and the single core I previously had, obviously due to the extra core.

Like people have said on XS though the x9 multi can be a killer , but lucky my board was able to support high HTT .. good old MSI and their K8N Neo 2 platty.



EDIT: Shortly i will add some benchmark pics in for everything i can think of, just so people can have an idea of what this is capable of

 

[imported_bhtooefr]

Hey, over at Tech Report, they're saying that AMD's dropped the price on the Opteron 165.

It's now $278. That's a lot cheaper than the X2 3800+.

Unfortunately, the stores haven't updated their prices

 

[Brunnis]

Originally posted by: bhtooefr
Hey, over at Tech Report, they're saying that AMD's dropped the price on the Opteron 165.

It's now $278. That's a lot cheaper than the X2 3800+.

Unfortunately, the stores haven't updated their prices

The prices seem updated here in Sweden. The Opteron 165 is some $40USD less than the X2 3800+ now. Ohh, and around $200 less than the 4400+...

 

[biostud]

I would like to know about raising the vcore on dualcore's as well. Currently running 2650Mhz @ 1.5V, but as I'm using watercooling the temp is not a problem (40-42C under prime95 stress test), ruining my CPU with too high a voltage would be though

anyone got a link for S&M?

 

[MrSpadge]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
The EU taxes the crap out of everything. I think its like an 18% VAT for computer components...

It's actually the individual governments who somehow all agree on this, with differing values: 17% VAT for UK, 16% for Germany, but talking about increasing it to 18% to make us ... uhm, buy less stuff
But let's not get too off-topic.

Since there are quite some enthusiastic X2 owners here I'd like to draw your attention to my post here. Still looking for anyone to verify / falsify it.

MrS

 

[RichUK]

OMG Agggghhhhhhhhh .. i cant believe the prices are going o drop that much :| .. did i get stung on price gauging or what !!!

oh well .. i have decided that i am def going to get water cooling as it will improve my OC both on the CPU and possibly the GFX card aswell (water blocking the CPU GFX chipset ) .. and also the noise will be reduced sufficiently as the chipset fa is doing my head in .. that 2.8Ghz is mine .. MINE I SAY!!! .. i know it is going to be stable just need better cooling .. i have already picked and priced the parts i want for my water setup .. just got to wait till payday.

slight rant .. what the HELL happened here .. i was playing BF2 the other day and it suddenly crashed in game, i tried everything from Alt Tabbing , Ctrl + Alt + Del .. nothing it was permo frozen .. so i hit the reset switch .. and when POSTing i get an Error Message stating "insert disk, or no BOOT DISK something like that " What the mother fvck happened there then . after some attempts to restore the disk . i ended up having to re-install as my boot image was out of date .. :|:|:| .. ohh well i have a fresh install so that is good .. and a week before i backed up my data pheeewww ..!!

ill see if I can find a link to S&M .. I think I got it from XS forums, there is a stickie there

 

[Doctorweir]

Damn you Rich...because of you I gonna shell out money to get myself a 165 as soon as the price cuts hit the shelves... Really promising OC, man...

DUH! First offers already at 310 Euros...must...resist...

 

[kamranziadar]

Ok i just ordered mine from MWAVE for $307 second day fedex shipped to me. I will post my results as soon as i get it.
I created another setup for this baby, detail follows.

1. AMD Opteron 165 Dual core 1.8ghz 1mb cache x2
2. MSI Neo4 K8N Platinum SLI.
3. Thermaltake Bigwater SE.
4. Evga 7800GT
5. Dell 2405 ultra sharp 24"LCD
6. PQI Turbo PC4000 2 x 512mb = 1GB
7. Ultra X 500Watts powersupply.

 

[Derektm]

I ordered a 170 from mwave today at 8am and its already shipped! Nice service mwave!

 

[carloboy]

lol just say congrats or nice, wow and leave it, some people just have the need to put a "disappointing" or "someone else will have better results".

gawd sakes no one ever means their compliments here -_-

to OP: lucky you got one , its OSS everywhere i look now. ahh well, hopefully it'll be here soon and try my luck on it too. 5.2 ghz of opteron goodness, nice

 

[Derektm]

Yep 165 and 170 are OOS and they raised the price on the 165's. Up from $299.

 

[RMSistight]

Hmmmm...should I sell my Manchester 3800+ for this Opteron 165......highly tempted.

 

[Avalon]

Damn Rich, that stinks that prices over there in the UK are so high for you. Here in the states, the Opty 165 is actually slightly cheaper than the X2 3800+, which makes it one heck of a bargain dual core. Congrats on your overclock, though.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: Avalon
Damn Rich, that stinks that prices over there in the UK are so high for you. Here in the states, the Opty 165 is actually slightly cheaper than the X2 3800+, which makes it one heck of a bargain dual core. Congrats on your overclock, though.

yeah i know the price can be a bit of a killer over here, the 165 where i bought it from is still selling them at the same price, so no price reductions as of yet, and there are very few places actually selling them. I still don?t understand how I was able to get one so early, well I guess I had to pay for that privilege.

I wish i could tell the future as my parents have gone over to the US (Las Vegas then Hawaii) and they could have brought me one back or a few for ebay .

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
Those are the 1MB caches? Nice, can't complain about 2x FX-55s. My X2 hits 2.5 on 1.312 vcore though so I'm starting to think that my Epox's temp senor is borked though since it still says that its hitting 60C with those vcore after re-applying AS5 and tightening my TT down alot better.

Here is a quick way to check.

1. When you go to bed, turn your machine off.
2. When you get up turn your machine on and go right into BIOS.
3. Check the temp in the BIOS.

If your temp in the BIOS is within 5C of ambient temp, the temp reading might be correct. If it's off more than that, your board's temp reading might be incorrect.

lop

 

[snow patrol]

these are pretty cheap now...you can get a 165 for £230ish. I'm sorely tempted....

is dual core really that great? i'd be moving from a opteron 144 at 2.9....

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: snow patrol
these are pretty cheap now...you can get a 165 for £230ish. I'm sorely tempted....

is dual core really that great? i'd be moving from a opteron 144 at 2.9....

yeah i know it is a bummer really .. quite annoyed at that .. i didnt even know the prices were going to come down .. :|

the prices you mention i have seen at komplett

will be getting a second dual core this week aswell with the steppings "CCBWE 0530TPMW"

 

[secretanchitman]

*applause*

awesome speeds!

 

[shiznit]

i just pulled the trigger on a 170 from mwave, a member at xtremesystems recieved 2 friday, both 0530, knock on wood....

 

[snow patrol]

damn, the 165 seems to be sold out everywhere here in the uk...anyone know where to find one?

 

[snow patrol]

Got my hands on a 165 from komplett for 230 ukp and.....


IT DOES 2.6 Ghz on both cores with only 1.39 volts! That's sp2004 prime stable for 12 hours on both cores at the same time. I'm well chuffed

 

[eparra]

Hello guys,
I am new to this forum and I would like to ask a question. RichUK, I noticed you went from a single core to a dual core without reformatting your copy of windows. Currently I am dual booting with XP pro sp2 and XP64 each on seperate hard drives. I am planning on buying a x2 or opteron 1xx but I do not want to reformat becuase I have setup my dual boot recently and do not want to mess with it. Can you give me some tips on what you did to not have to re-install and in what order as I see you have some experience in that, it would be greatly appreciated. Currently i have this setup, MSI K8N neo2 Platty, amd 64 3000 winnie @ 250x9, Geil ultra ddr500 @ 500mhz 2.5,3,3,10, 6800GT @ 400,1100, OCZ modstream 520, dual lite-on dvd burners, 2 raptors and a 300gb maxtor 16mb cache. I will probably be going with x2 3800 as I will want to run it 250x10 with a thermaltake silent boost on top of it.

eparra

 

[MrSpadge]

I went from single to dual core A64 / nf4 and did nothing except rebooting. Win XP SP1 changed the kernel to multi processor automatically. I have to admit I was a bit surprised

MrS