Anti-idling laws only apply in a set temperature range. Anything over 27C or below 10C I believe, you're allowed to idle the car. Otherwise, it's a max of 3 minutes of idling before you will get ticketed.
What scares me about your sister-in-law is that she lets the kids stay in a running car often while she leaves them unattended. That's neglectful and dangerous. :|
No, she called the police right away and told them the straight story. The insurance company said that it was NOT her fault.
This morning when driving my son to school in my little Oregon town I counted three cars out idling without drivers. This includes my neighbor, the nurse who moved up here form Arizona, who lets her 2001 Mustang convertible warm-up for ten minutes ON THE STREET every morning, and a prison guard (came out in uniform as I was driving back).
Yes, the police could have cited her, but that would just add insult to injury.
That?s what I do too. All month we have had lows in the teens Fahrenheit with highs just at freezing. Only got up to 22F yesterday!
Originally posted by: Ime
Does she also leave her kids locked in the car during the summer while she goes shopping?
Geez, if I ever caught my wife doing this I'd take away her keys!
Of course, we live in Georgia and park in a garage so it's not like we need to warm up the cabin any.
She warms it up a bit, puts the kids in, then goes back thru the house to make sure lights are off etc. The kids, are usually locked in the car for a few minutes but yesterday they followed their mom around the house instead. She rents the house. No garage.
Thank you. And she does live very close to Canada.
The latest police theory of the crime is that it was an organized group of Russians from the next town over and that they have it stashed somewhere for a few days until things cool down. Thanks Joe Friday.
rh71
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that's where I lived... Plainview... but this happened a few years ago. Climbed the backyard fence and they shattered the sliding glass door... our "yappy" dog was unharmed but they took items for money anyway. I swear they watched us leave our home for some time before that. Cops said there was another house break-in a few blocks away that day too.
The incidents you're referring to... 3 guys come in the middle of the night through unlocked windows and tie the family up while taking their stuff... they've hit a few towns in addition and it's the same guys because they used the same specific type of rope.
She rents the house. No garage. It is still trespass on to the property and grand theft. Not like leaving a bike unlocked in front of the public library. It is sad when we have to assume the worst in people and lock everything down. Insurance said they will pay.
Sorry for the slow reply. The DSL went out area wide all nite a half-hour after I posted.
Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Originally posted by: Ime
Does she also leave her kids locked in the car during the summer while she goes shopping?
Geez, if I ever caught my wife doing this I'd take away her keys!
Of course, we live in Georgia and park in a garage so it's not like we need to warm up the cabin any.
She warms it up a bit, puts the kids in, then goes back thru the house to make sure lights are off etc. The kids, are usually locked in the car for a few minutes but yesterday they followed their mom around the house instead. She rents the house. No garage.
Isn't it a bad idea to leave your kids in car with the engine running? One of them could take it for a joy ride
The biggest problem is that kids get stolen with cars. It happens a lot. Usually the kids are dumped off someplace away from home and not killed but still....
edit: whoops, fixed formatting
I haven't read the entire thread, but do all of you live on the west coast? I live in Indiana and you HAVE to let your car warm up this time of year. Often it is entirely too cold to sit in your vehicle for 10-15 minutes while the ice and everything else melts off your car while it warms up enough to drive.
Shoot, everyone here lets their car idle for 10-15-20 minutes in the morning...
However, if I actually had a winter car worth any value I'd get another set of keys AND LOCK THE DOORS!!!
She paid a pricey lesson...poor girl.
However, if I actually had a winter car worth any value I'd get another set of keys AND LOCK THE DOORS!!!
She paid a pricey lesson...poor girl.
Just because it was never stolen doesn't mean it never had the chance of being stolen. I've had a car stolen before and I've had my car broken in to multiple times. I think your way of thinking changes once it's actually happened to you. Crime happens everywhere. True, there are areas where crime is less prevalent, but the possibility is still there. I'd rather be safe than sorry. If you leave your car idling and unattended, you can be upset if it's stolen, but the brunt of the blame falls on your own negligence. I feel the possiblity of something like this happening is just as high as leaving your unattended wallet with a couple hundred dollars in it on the driveway and having it stolen. Why would you do either?
Lesson learned, but kinda too harsh. Hopefully she finds her Jeep soon, but I bet the wheels will be gone if it is found at all.
As for me I have no need to warm up a car for 10+ min.
As for me I have no need to warm up a car for 10+ min.
Originally posted by: EatSpam
I wish I was born Canadian.
Wow. I guess you haven't been to Toronto. My brother got his car stolen from the office parking lot there. Also he had his car stereo stolen from the underground parking garage at his apartment.
Linflas
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I warm mine up in my driveway without babysitting it as well. I also don't lock my doors until I go to bed and generally live a paranoia free life. If I lived in a high crime area I would modify my behavior but I don't so it is not something I am all that worried about.
That happened around here last year. Dad left the car running and his baby in the back seat while he ran into ABC Warehouse. Someone boosted the car and then abandoned it and the baby a few miles away.
The charged the dad with child endangerment and took his kid away for a few months. Seems harsh but I guess they were trying to make a point.
You never ever ever leave your kid in a running car while you leave it for a minute. You can replace a car pretty easy. Your child on the other hand....
newParadigm
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What? Since when? I leave my car idling in my sub-urban neighborhood unlocked in my driveway all the time in the winter, wouldnt ever do it in public driveway, but at home sure...
actually though, its usually in the garage (door open...)...so thats a little more secure.
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With the exception of a drop from 1996 to 2000, the rate of vehicle theft in Canada has been increasing annually since the mid-1980s...Canada ranked fifth highest of 17 countries for car thefts in the 1999 International Crime Victimization Survey, with 1.6% of the population reporting that they had been a victim of car theft during the previous 12 months. Police-reported data show that Canada's vehicle theft rate has been higher than the U.S. rate since 1996. In 2000, Canada's rate was 26% higher than the comparable American rate.
http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/030108/d030108b.htm
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