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My sister and the mental institution (small update)

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Dedpuhl

Lifer
As some of you may know, I have been posting a couple threads about my sister. She is in a mental hospital right now due to an apparent drug overdose on Mardi Gras. Her condition had not changed in 4 days. My dad went to see her yesterday and she was finally returning to normal. WAS is the key word.

When my dad got home (she is in a facility about 2 hours away), There were some calls made to the house. While my dad was on his way home, another mental patient talked to my sister. This nutjob told my sister that she didn't have to stay in there and that if her parents loved her, they would get her out(she can legally be held for 15 days or more if she is a threat to herself).

Now my sister is extremely violent and hateful to both of my parents. She told them that if they didn't let her out that she would kill herself. My mom was in tears after listening this. My dad was enraged and talked to the hospital about keeping that woman away from my sister...


It is back to square one.



I see lots of therapy in my sister's future.
 
I am so sorry to hear that.

I'm sure you are giving your parents as much emotional support as you can now, which is the very best thing you can do... it helps them to know that you love them and are standing behind them.

Hang in there!

 
I'm sure you are giving your parents as much emotional support

I'm trying. I really don't even feel sorry for my drug abusing sister, but I feel REALLY bad for my mom. She is taking it very very hard.

 
Another tragedy of the abuse of drugs. They warp the conscious mind and impair proper inhibitions, reasonable self-censoring, and the ability to step outside ourselves and engage in objective reasoning.

There are still the eternal options: faith, hope, and love. Such things transcend the shatterred mind and minister to the heart. Fight the battle to maintain these qualities in yourself, your parents (mom especially), and your sister.

Then there is hope for healing. 🙂
 
Sorry to hear that, sounds like your sister has some deep seated problems. Doesnt seem like it was any of your parents doing though, you seem normal enough. 😉
 
Hope things work out for ya...When your sister finally gets normal and gets out of there if things work out properly she may consider it an incredible learning lesson...?
 
That's a shame, I was hoping the next update would bring better news about your sister.

I hope your sister can understand that she will get out, and it's because your parents love her that she is there for now to get the help she needs.
 
I knew she was doing marijuana. My dad knew and allowed it to happen in his house. I never knew what else she did until I talked to some of her friends that are my friends. They say she will try anything and take anything until she passes out. That is scary.


Blood/Urine tests showed only weed and a valium-like drug. That's all I know up to this point. She most likely took some acid or ecstasy, too.
 
Yeah I've never heard of marijuana alone doing this to a person. I have heard that its physically impossible to overdose on marijuana actually ! Trying anything until you pass out is an unfortunate and unhealthy habit.
 
Dedpuhl, among other things, your parents need to have an immediate talk with the doctor in charge of her case. They need to let him know exactly what happened, what your sister said to them, and a description of what appears to have taken place between your sister and this other patient.

They also need to ask him/her to find out exactly how much interaction is curently being allowed between your sister and other patients and under what sort of supervision this interaction is taking place.

This is important because there are two possible scenarios here: a current patient did indeed spend time in conversation with your sister, under less-than-ideal supervision conditions, and said conversation resulted in your sister becoming overly agitated about her condition/current state (which the doctor should be concerned about), or your sister heard conversation among other patients and/or staff and/or has some existing knowledge of laws involving commitment proceedings and is using the information to manipulate her caregivers (which includes your parents).

Anytime a person is involved in a mental health commitment proceeding, it is extremely important that all caregivers stay in very close, continuous communications with each other; this includes all medical personnel assigned to the care of the individual, any legal guardians assigned to that person (in most cases, commitment proceedings include the assignment of a person to hold a medical power of attorney and sometimes hold a legal guardianship of the committed person, since it is assumed that someone in that position is not capable of handling their own decisions) and any other interested parties, such as close family members and friends, who might be in regular contact with the person.

Mental illness is not (as a rule) a process that dulls the mental acuity of a person; rather, it forces that person to use all available resources to find a way to "combat" his/her perceived problem (which is not the fact of the illness, but the fact that the person is being required to submit to treatment). It is not uncommon for patients in an institution to attempt to manipulate those involved in her/his care, in an attempt to convince them that the care is not needed or wanted.

Lady Niniane
 
Kranky wrote, "Excellent post, Lady Niniane. "

Thank you. Unfortunately a sizable portion of my knowledge is based on real experience. 🙁

The good news is that mental illnesses are far more treatable than was thought many years ago. With proper care, medications, and supervision, many patients can live more-or-less normal lives. Even many drug-induced psychoses <sp?> can be managed if the person receives continuing care and support from his/her family, friends and support personnel.

Good luck to you and your family, Dedpuhl. It will take time, but it can be very worthwhile.

Lady Niniane
 
<<They say she will try anything and take anything until she passes out. That is scary.>>

I agree, that's very scary and self-destructive. She needs continual support and reassurance and you're right, there will be a lot of therapy in her future. However, if all the therapy helps, and your sister is able to get a hold on herself and her life again, then the war was not in vain. Too may people out there don't get the help they need, and are doomed to a life of delusions. I was watching an episode of cops last night where a guy was convinced that spiders were going to kill him. He was screaming and shaking visibly. And all because of drugs.

Good luck to you, your sis, and your family. It's going to be a long road, but with luck, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
 
she seems to be rebelling from something... i dont know what else to say, except, i hope you all pull through ok.
 
she seems to be rebelling from something.

Can't be from her family b/c my dad has let her do EVERYTHING she has wanted...
 
Dedpuhl wrote (in response to a &quot;rebelling&quot; thought), &quot;Can't be from her family b/c my dad has let her do EVERYTHING she has wanted... &quot;

She could be rebelling from a lack of an authority figure in her life. (Yes, there is a school of thought that espouses this idea...)

More likely, she's just an independent soul, with a previously undiagnosed medical condition that has been aggrievated/triggered into flame by injudicious substance abuse.

(and yes, I am quoting...)

Lady Niniane
 
The sad truth that I have witnessed is that people in poor mental health follows:

They will not improve until they admit to themselves that they need help and search or ask for it themselves. Trying to force therapy on an unwilling patient is rarely effective and often conterproductive.

I'm hoping that the situation improves for everyone involved.. and that you can find a way to make her see the need for help..

 
dedpuhl, that says it right there. She is spoiled, and she wants more. She is poutting right now, because someone is finallying telling her no. I would bet money on it.
 
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