Yep. I have to yield to you because you're a legend here on AT. Being here so long that you're becoming a legend in your own mind.
Yep. I have to yield to you because you're a legend here on AT. Being here so long that you're becoming a legend in your own mind.
You're going to tell me a guy like this is going to stick out like a sore-thumb in colder weather on Hawaii?
http://freepatriot.com/imagewarehouse/concealedcarry/
Hell, have you ever even seen ankle holsters?
I've used my benelli M4 for hunting...........your comment just shows your ignorance on the subject..........how bout just calling it a shotgun? how about 12gauge?
So what are you going to wear here heavy jeans and shirts.
You'll look like an idiot trying to pull that off here. Get with it.
First, you never fit in and you'll get so much attention walking around.
You can try it, I'd love to see how you'll do it.
Remember, we all stupid country folk here.
Originally posted by: pkme2
So what are you going to wear here heavy jeans and shirts.
You'll look like an idiot trying to pull that off here. Get with it.
First, you never fit in and you'll get so much attention walking around.
You can try it, I'd love to see how you'll do it.
Remember, we all stupid country folk here.
Seriously, do yourself a favor and read up on all the options for concealed carry. You continue to show your ignorance concerning it.
Since I know the law here in Hawaii, the supposition is moot. My point is for you try it here and see how nice we'll treat you.
Yeah a gun presents a small but non-zero risk of injury by it's very existence. An intruder in your home presents a very large risk of injury which is likely to be lessened by the presence of said gun.
But wait a minute, as long as we're talking about non-zero risks, then a large number of our daily activities have a slight chance of causing injury to us and potentially anyone around us.
Do you drive a car? Can you imagine what it would be like if your steering and brakes were to fail at the same time while you were driving at ~70 mph on the interstate? It's a small, but definitely non-zero risk to drive your car.
Ok so that's extreme, let's say you're in your home and a guy breaks in. Let's go a bit further and say that he's got a criminal record that would land him in jail for a significant portion of his life (if not all of it) were he to be caught. He's armed and fully intending to use his weapon on whoever happens to live in the domicile. This guy's not gonna leave any witnesses. This situation also has a small but non-zero chance of occurring. The problem is that this situation would be pretty much beyond your control. While a firearm can be harnessed it can be made to work FOR you in a situation in which you might need it.
If you like to have crazy parties with drunken teenagers roaming all over your house then by all means, lock it up. I don't see where you have to lock the gun and the ammunition separately since the ammo is as likely to cause damage in its box as it is resting safely in the magazine of a gun (small but non-zero, etc.). Just don't have one in the barrel and don't allow anyone you don't trust access to it.
Big J, come and visit us some time. We had some fellows fly in from Vegas a few years back to teach us locals a lesson on Molokai. They never left. Stay where you are.
But if you had a loaded assault shotgun here, I know what would happen to you......
But if you had a loaded assault shotgun here, I know what would happen to you......
Nebor
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You're a fool. It's hotter in Texas than it is in Hawaii. I could be wearing shorts and a tshirt and still packing a medium framed automatic pistol.
If anyone actually goes to Hawaii to show you how very possible this is, I hope they put a few in you while they're at it.
You really don't get it...
You're spouting off about how it's impossible to carry a gun in Hawaii, this and that. Which is simply not true. You're disputing the very basis and concept behind concealed carry. The fact that if it's done right, nobody would ever know. It's that simple.
You always welcome to come by and see us sometime. Pls try to pack, we island folk won't disappoint you. You couldn't hide anything even if you tried.
Nebor
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Are you really so stupid as to ignore all the pictures posted above of people carrying concealed weapons under hawaiian shirts?
Here's an article about Hawaii preparing to pass a concealed carry bill. I guess that's useless since they'd "never get away with it." :roll:
Man you have been talking out of your @ss for quite a while now. Just thought you'd like to know...
We like to offer all @sses an invitation to teach me and my friends the art of concealment anytime. Come over and try to hide in broad daylight. But since you guys are doing all the talking, that what you do best, I don't think you can anything else.
Nebor
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Originally posted by: pkme2
You're not even reading the posts people are making. Hawaii is well on it's way to issuing concealed carry permits. You're a mother fvcking fool. You can't even speak properly.
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: pkme2
You're not even reading the posts people are making. Hawaii is well on it's way to issuing concealed carry permits. You're a mother fvcking fool. You can't even speak properly.
Why don't you come and visit us sometime, my fellow vets and I would love to have you show us the art of concealment. You can't even spell right and you trying to teach me English.
Nebor
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Originally posted by: pkme2
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: pkme2
You're not even reading the posts people are making. Hawaii is well on it's way to issuing concealed carry permits. You're a mother fvcking fool. You can't even speak properly.
Why don't you come and visit us sometime, my fellow vets and I would love to have you show us the art of concealment. You can't even spell right and you trying to teach me English.
What did I mispell? Care to correct me?
I've been to Hawaii several times before. :roll:
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Originally posted by: pkme2
So what are you going to wear here heavy jeans and shirts.
You'll look like an idiot trying to pull that off here. Get with it.
First, you never fit in and you'll get so much attention walking around.
You can try it, I'd love to see how you'll do it.
Remember, we all stupid country folk here.
I've been to Hawaii. My aunt lived there for some 15 years.
Yes, you are stupid country folk if your going to sit there and tell me no one ever wears pants or jean shorts there.
I'VE BEEN THERE, I KNOW WHAT THEY WEAR, I could CCW there ALL DAY LONG and NO ONE would know.
exdeath
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http://members.cox.net/exdeath/gun1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/exdeath/gun2.jpg
Here is what I do. My USP40 handgun is the only gun I keep loaded with a round in the chamber. However I don't keep potential energy in the system with a round in the chamber (ie: sear cocked, springs compressed, etc). I can cock the hammer while drawing and taking aim (practice!) and if I have to I can take the first shot on double action.
My Mossberg 590 I keep loaded with 8 rounds in the tube and an empty chamber and keep it handy in the bedroom. Everything else I keep loaded mags but the weapons empty and in cases.
There is no problem keeping a round in the chamber so long as there is no chance of it going off (ie: don't keep it cocked in storage, only chamber rounds in weapons that have firing pin blocks or disconnectors, that don't allow the firing pin to move freely, don't keep any potential energy in the system just asking to be release like springs compressed, sears locked, hammers back, etc.) Just pick one or two primary defensive weapons to keep loaded and take "extra special" care of how you handle those (ie: keep them seperate from your "empty" guns, more out of reach, etc). For example my USP.40 is the one gun that is always loaded but its always on my belt or in the cabinet behind the bed, and it is always holstered with the hammer down and I always know where it is at all times.
And the AR in the pic before anyone spots the selector on fire who hasn't use a AR before, the selector will not mechanically go into safe unless the weapon is cocked.
http://members.cox.net/exdeath/gun2.jpg
Here is what I do. My USP40 handgun is the only gun I keep loaded with a round in the chamber. However I don't keep potential energy in the system with a round in the chamber (ie: sear cocked, springs compressed, etc). I can cock the hammer while drawing and taking aim (practice!) and if I have to I can take the first shot on double action.
My Mossberg 590 I keep loaded with 8 rounds in the tube and an empty chamber and keep it handy in the bedroom. Everything else I keep loaded mags but the weapons empty and in cases.
There is no problem keeping a round in the chamber so long as there is no chance of it going off (ie: don't keep it cocked in storage, only chamber rounds in weapons that have firing pin blocks or disconnectors, that don't allow the firing pin to move freely, don't keep any potential energy in the system just asking to be release like springs compressed, sears locked, hammers back, etc.) Just pick one or two primary defensive weapons to keep loaded and take "extra special" care of how you handle those (ie: keep them seperate from your "empty" guns, more out of reach, etc). For example my USP.40 is the one gun that is always loaded but its always on my belt or in the cabinet behind the bed, and it is always holstered with the hammer down and I always know where it is at all times.
And the AR in the pic before anyone spots the selector on fire who hasn't use a AR before, the selector will not mechanically go into safe unless the weapon is cocked.
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