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My rommate has an assault shotgun..

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
Maybe I should see his shotgun and raise him a Deagle just to be sure..

I know nothing about guns.. but I plan to eventually at least go to gun safety class so I can know how to use one. I have always felt secure without one.. so I don't see any reason now for me to own one.
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how about one of those colossal Smith & Wesson (sp?) pieces? what are they called again?
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
So why is he keeping the gun, home defense maybe? An unloaded gun won't do that job very well. As long as he doesn't like to get drunk and do a Clint Eastwood impression I'd say you're in the clear.
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Because it takes soooo long to load a gun, that the crook has teleported into your house, realized that your SHOTGUN was unloaded, and slit your throat😕

There's nothing wrong with keeping the shells next to the gun....much safer, and 99.9% as good for home defense.
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I absolutely agree. If you have a firearm for home defense, and you can't operate it well enough to load it within a decent amount of time, then you should own one. There is no need for a firearm to be kept in condition one (round in chamber, safety on). Hell, if you had a pump shotgun, just the pumping of the forearm is as effective as shooting the shotgun.
 
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I myself would be worried. An assault shotgun is not something ideal for home defense (which is the only reason I could possibly think of to keep it loaded at home), as the spread & power is going to destroy much more than any thief could take. Sure it might be useful in a firefight at home, but I'd rather have a handgun for that anyway, if it really came down to it.
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Um...are you saying a shotgun is a poor choice for home defense? 😕




And what exactly is an "assault" shotgun? Let me guess...it's black and has a collapsable stock.



And are people actually suggesting brandishing an UNLOADED weapon in the event of home invasion? :Q
 
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I myself would be worried. An assault shotgun is not something ideal for home defense (which is the only reason I could possibly think of to keep it loaded at home), as the spread & power is going to destroy much more than any thief could take. Sure it might be useful in a firefight at home, but I'd rather have a handgun for that anyway, if it really came down to it.
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I don't think that the primary concern would be property damage, but defense against someone who is potentially hostile toward's you.

I do agree with you that a handgun is probably the best choice for home defense though.
 
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I myself would be worried. An assault shotgun is not something ideal for home defense (which is the only reason I could possibly think of to keep it loaded at home), as the spread & power is going to destroy much more than any thief could take. Sure it might be useful in a firefight at home, but I'd rather have a handgun for that anyway, if it really came down to it.
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Um...are you saying a shotgun is a poor choice for home defense? 😕
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Not at all. I'd much prefer a Mossberg 500 to an assault shotgun though. I was more questioning the purpose of having an assault shotgun, loaded, for home defense.

And I consider an assault shotgun to be a semi-auto shotgun.
 
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
So why is he keeping the gun, home defense maybe? An unloaded gun won't do that job very well. As long as he doesn't like to get drunk and do a Clint Eastwood impression I'd say you're in the clear.
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Because it takes soooo long to load a gun, that the crook has teleported into your house, realized that your SHOTGUN was unloaded, and slit your throat😕

There's nothing wrong with keeping the shells next to the gun....much safer, and 99.9% as good for home defense.
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I absolutely agree. If you have a firearm for home defense, and you can't operate it well enough to load it within a decent amount of time, then you should own one. There is no need for a firearm to be kept in condition one (round in chamber, safety on). Hell, if you had a pump shotgun, just the pumping of the forearm is as effective as shooting the shotgun.
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I certainly wouldn't keep a round in the chamber, but I see no problem with keeping the weapon loaded. In a situation in which a firearm is really needed there might not be time to fumble with shells/bullets.
 
The presence of a loaded gun in your home is damn serious. If you wanted one there, you would have gotten one yourself. I'd give it quite a bit of thought along those lines.
I have them in my home, but It is not a college-type apartment with the possibility of various people you don't know that well coming and going.
Many tragic injuries and deaths are caused by the gun present in a home, due to lack of training and management. You say you don't know much about them, so how could you assess his competency?
If your new roomie shows off this gun to the wrong person, you may well end up at the wrong end of it.
Food for thought.
 
First call the FBI, then the DEA, then ATF, then LAPD, then the CIA, then DHS, then the NSA, then call Ghostbusters, then call the NYPD, then call Americas Most Wanted, then call Starsky & Hutch, then change your diapers and go to bed.
 
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I myself would be worried. An assault shotgun is not something ideal for home defense (which is the only reason I could possibly think of to keep it loaded at home), as the spread & power is going to destroy much more than any thief could take. Sure it might be useful in a firefight at home, but I'd rather have a handgun for that anyway, if it really came down to it.
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Um...are you saying a shotgun is a poor choice for home defense? 😕

And what exactly is an "assault" shotgun? Let me guess...it's black and has a collapsable stock.
And are people actually suggesting brandishing an UNLOADED weapon in the event of home invasion? :Q
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I'm saying that when they hear a noise at the door, they can load the shotgun (using the shells that are conveniently close to the gun), and investigate. Obviously you don't want to confront anyone with an unloaded gun.

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I myself would be worried. An assault shotgun is not something ideal for home defense (which is the only reason I could possibly think of to keep it loaded at home), as the spread & power is going to destroy much more than any thief could take. Sure it might be useful in a firefight at home, but I'd rather have a handgun for that anyway, if it really came down to it.
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I don't think that the primary concern would be property damage, but defense against someone who is potentially hostile toward's you.

I do agree with you that a handgun is probably the best choice for home defense though.
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You're wrong, a shotgun is 100% the BEST option for home defense. Very powerful, easy to aim, lots of damage, and low penetration so you don't shoot the neighbors. And an "assault shotgun" is DESIGNED for close-quarters stuff...short, easy to maneuver...correct me if I'm wrong here, bradruth.
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I myself would be worried. An assault shotgun is not something ideal for home defense (which is the only reason I could possibly think of to keep it loaded at home), as the spread & power is going to destroy much more than any thief could take. Sure it might be useful in a firefight at home, but I'd rather have a handgun for that anyway, if it really came down to it.
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Um...are you saying a shotgun is a poor choice for home defense? 😕

And what exactly is an "assault" shotgun? Let me guess...it's black and has a collapsable stock.
And are people actually suggesting brandishing an UNLOADED weapon in the event of home invasion? :Q
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I'm saying that when they hear a noise at the door, they can load the shotgun (using the shells that are conveniently close to the gun), and investigate. Obviously you don't want to confront anyone with an unloaded gun.

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I myself would be worried. An assault shotgun is not something ideal for home defense (which is the only reason I could possibly think of to keep it loaded at home), as the spread & power is going to destroy much more than any thief could take. Sure it might be useful in a firefight at home, but I'd rather have a handgun for that anyway, if it really came down to it.
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I don't think that the primary concern would be property damage, but defense against someone who is potentially hostile toward's you.

I do agree with you that a handgun is probably the best choice for home defense though.
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You're wrong, a shotgun is 100% the BEST option for home defense. Very powerful, easy to aim, lots of damage, and low penetration so you don't shoot the neighbors. And an "assault shotgun" is DESIGNED for close-quarters stuff...short, easy to maneuver...correct me if I'm wrong here, bradruth.
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I very well may be. I'm not a gun expert, and it was just my opinion. One can't offer much more than that.
 
Assault shotguns are fine for Fallout/Fallout 2, and Half-Life. In real life, I'd be at least a little freaked if I lived with someone who had one in the house/apt.
 
You better hope he's not a CS player who sleep walks. HEAD SHOT *BOOM*

Ps. He's gonna make you his bitch.
 
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I myself would be worried. An assault shotgun is not something ideal for home defense (which is the only reason I could possibly think of to keep it loaded at home), as the spread & power is going to destroy much more than any thief could take. Sure it might be useful in a firefight at home, but I'd rather have a handgun for that anyway, if it really came down to it.
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Um...are you saying a shotgun is a poor choice for home defense? 😕




And what exactly is an "assault" shotgun? Let me guess...it's black and has a collapsable stock.



And are people actually suggesting brandishing an UNLOADED weapon in the event of home invasion? :Q
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Thank you.
 
Mixed opinions on your situation. I agree that a shotgun is an ideal home defense weapon. Cuts a fairly wide swath, so you don't have to be quite as accurate as with a handgun, and if you're scared, you're less likely to be as accurate as you should be in that kind of situation.
Having a room mate with an assault shotgun? That might make me nervous. How well do you know the guy? What kind of living situation is it? Like a dorm? private house/apt? How well secured will he keep the weapon? That's not the kind of thing you want some drunk finding during a party..."Hey you guys, watch this" While a shotgun is a good defense weapon, it's nothing to play with, and not recommended for every situation...


FATAL Shotgun wound

VERY GRAPHIC!! NOT for the faint of heart...or weak of stomach either...
 
Have him teach you how to use it. It may save your life some day, and you'll probably be less of a pansy about it being around.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Mixed opinions on your situation. I agree that a shotgun is an ideal home defense weapon. Cuts a fairly wide swath, so you don't have to be quite as accurate as with a handgun, and if you're scared, you're less likely to be as accurate as you should be in that kind of situation.
Having a room mate with an assault shotgun? That might make me nervous. How well do you know the guy? What kind of living situation is it? Like a dorm? private house/apt? How well secured will he keep the weapon? That's not the kind of thing you want some drunk finding during a party..."Hey you guys, watch this" While a shotgun is a good defense weapon, it's nothing to play with, and not recommended for every situation...


FATAL Shotgun wound

VERY GRAPHIC!! NOT for the faint of heart...or weak of stomach either...
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Wow...
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Mixed opinions on your situation. I agree that a shotgun is an ideal home defense weapon. Cuts a fairly wide swath, so you don't have to be quite as accurate as with a handgun, and if you're scared, you're less likely to be as accurate as you should be in that kind of situation.
Having a room mate with an assault shotgun? That might make me nervous. How well do you know the guy? What kind of living situation is it? Like a dorm? private house/apt? How well secured will he keep the weapon? That's not the kind of thing you want some drunk finding during a party..."Hey you guys, watch this" While a shotgun is a good defense weapon, it's nothing to play with, and not recommended for every situation...


FATAL Shotgun wound

VERY GRAPHIC!! NOT for the faint of heart...or weak of stomach either...
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Things I shouldn't click on just before bed include... 🙁
 
Are there laws against having a loaded gun in USA? Here in NZ it is a VERY serious offence to have a loaded gun in your home, in fact you are looking at a very hefty punishment for having a gun and ammo locked in the same closet together. There's no way I would live with someone who had a loaded shotgun in the house. No friggen way.
 
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: hg321
Originally posted by: brxndxn
So.. my new roommate (who's actually a pretty nice dude.. clean.. cooks..) has an assault shotgun. I have no problem with guns or him having guns. He hasn't had cartridges for it since he moved in.

But.. he just came home with a box of cartridges and said he plans on keeping it loaded. Am I okay with that? Should I be?

I just know if I had a gun, and kept it loaded, I'd blow my foot off.. I'm kind of a clutz, though, sometimes.
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This could be you

Graphic Pic Of Shotgun Wound
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holy crap... replacement ankle FTW?

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EDIT:
Any med students in the house? How come the foot is not blue ? With that amount of damage, he shouldn't have much blood supply down there.
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From the pic, I'd guess the Anterior Tibial Artery is intact and suppling reasonable blood flow. The victums Posterial Tibial Artery is certainly "gone", and I'd guess his Peroneal Artery (it carries blood to the foot but not through the foot) is "gone" as well, although it may be intact. Of the three major lower leg arteries, one would be sufficiant to supply o2 & blood for several hours.... I think.

That's gotta sting a little bit.
 
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