My rommate has an assault shotgun..

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: harrkev
Maybe a better idea is to get your own rifle or shotgun. Then you are on equal footing. You can get a Yugoslavian SKS for under $200. Be prepared to spend hours cleaning cosmoline off of it though, but the are soooo worth it.

Well while a SKS is nice for hunting or target shooting do not get one with home defence in mind. Those things will shoot through the walls especially if you've got steel jacketed rounds.

steel jacketed.....where would you get those? also i am sure they would wear out your barrel very quick and kill the rifling. actually the gun would probably explode due to overpressure. i think you mean steel core, but that is not necessary a 7.62x39 fmj (lead core) will easily punch through quite a bit. the actual bullet will be either all lead or a copper jacket with usually a lead inner portion, this way the bullet can engage the rifling and spin to create stability once it leaves the barrel. also just about any round will go through more than 1 round, whether it be pistol or rifle, that is why the shotgun is a great home defense round - once the pellets leave the barrel, they each are relatively light so they don't carry nearly as much energy as 1 projectile would. and for shotgun i am talking something less than 00buck but more than birdshot.

educate yourself

also op - what exactly is a assault shotgun? and most of the semi-auto shotguns i have shot were the nice refined hunting shotguns.

as far as legal barrel length, are you saying 18"? that is just legal unless you get the atf stamp which will let you get a much shorter barrel if you so desire.

your ignorance is what fuels the crazy gun laws that some of the states must endure. in all reality you are more likely to die in a hospital from a hospital accident than from a firearm, by a huge margin.

educate yourself and learn about firearms and you will see that a firearm safety has nothing to do with the weapon, but the person. too many retards that know nothing about firearms pick them up and act like asses, then kill people or themselves and the media says we need more gun laws, give me a break.

firearms are extremely safe, it is the idiot holding it that is not safe.

also, all this talk about keeping the weapon unloaded is ridiculous. like others have stated you may as well keep a bat next to your bed and for some of you that is probably what i would recommend. the firearm should always be loaded and chambered if you feel comfortable with it. everybody keeps saying it only takes 15 seconds to load a gun when the bad guy comes in, unfortunately that is not the case. think about, your home just got broken into, you are afraid, adrenaline is pumping and it is more than likely very dark and now you are suppose to fumble with shells or a magazine? you will be dead by the time you get it loaded. remember this person didn't come into your home to make you dinner. this is especially true if you don't have a dog to warn you of an intruder.

if you have a lot of people over then other precautions need to be taken, but be responsible in the idea of others but most importantly yourself and use the weapon for its intended use - to defend you when your life is endangered.

 

[letdown427]

Originally posted by: bob4432
your ignorance is what fuels the crazy gun laws that some of the states must endure.

firearm safety has nothing to do with the weapon, but the person.

too many retards that know nothing about firearms pick them up and act like asses, then kill people or themselves

firearms are extremely safe, it is the idiot holding it that is not safe.

So what option is there? Other than gun laws? You can't educate every idiot. You can't impose gun laws, else you'll piss off people such as yourself. So what option is there to keep idiots off guns?

I'm sure if there was an option other than imposing all those 'stupid' gun laws to keep idiots from guns, then the media would promote those.

It's the same with cars. People promote speed limits because there isn't really any other way of trying to stop idiots driving too fast for the conditions/ their capabilities and killing stuff.

If all cars were limited to the speed limit, then you'd complain, people couldn't overtake, and idiots would still speed in built up areas.

Sure the gun laws are probably annoying (being in UK, I don't give a rats ass) but what are the other options for the media/state to use, other than gun laws? Give idiots guns in the hope they'll kill themselves off fast? Hmm... actually...

 

[dmw16]

He should have it locked up (or at least the ammo)

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
lmao... "assault shotgun"
As soon as I read that, I thought to myself that the OP has no credibility in complaining...



But, for what it's worth, only a moron would have a loaded gun in the house. For home defense (or rather, for the defense of my chickens and other animals should a fox or something come during the night) I have a .22 ready to go. It's unloaded, but the clip is loaded. All I have to do is grab the clip from my hiding spot, slap it into the gun, and I've got 11 rounds ready... (one should be enough)

A .22?!
You're a braver man then I am!
I keep an AR15 by the bed. And a combat knife too for good measure. The intruder is *going* to be found with a weapon in his hand, regardless of what he brought in the house.

 

[harrkev]

Originally posted by: Nebor
That's a great thing to have if you have kids or kids are going to be around. For someone living along or with adults, it's just another thing to go wrong. Say you hit the wrong number because you're fumbling, or you forget the combo in the commotion. "Hang on a second! I'm getting my gun!" As you pull a slip of paper out of your wallet.

It is called practice, and it works. I have actually had occasion to use this. One night my alarm went off in the middle of the night. In 15 seconds I was up with my glasses on and my pistol in my hand. I keep my pistols in a small box with a push-button combination. Practicing opening it paid off.

Well, the alarm went off because the stick tape holding one of the magnets on was old and not so sticky anymore. But it was more good practice.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: harrkev

Originally posted by: Nebor
That's a great thing to have if you have kids or kids are going to be around. For someone living along or with adults, it's just another thing to go wrong. Say you hit the wrong number because you're fumbling, or you forget the combo in the commotion. "Hang on a second! I'm getting my gun!" As you pull a slip of paper out of your wallet.

It is called practice, and it works. I have actually had occasion to use this. One night my alarm went off in the middle of the night. In 15 seconds I was up with my glasses on and my pistol in my hand. I keep my pistols in a small box with a push-button combination. Practicing opening it paid off.

Well, the alarm went off because the stick tape holding one of the magnets on was old and not so sticky anymore. But it was more good practice.

15 seconds is a VERY long time. If a weapon is sitting right next to a bed, most younger people would be able to wake up and have it in their hands in 2-3 seconds.

 

[legonas]

Originally posted by: soydios

Originally posted by: legonas

Originally posted by: soydios
Some basic things about gun safety:
- the chamber should never be loaded unless you are about to fire
- the hammer should always be down and the safety on

Some basic things about gun safety near unsafe persons (idiots who don't know jack about guns):
- the gun goes in one locked cabinet, the shells go in another locked cabinet with a different lock code

You don't so much need the shotgun to be loaded to get your point across. Imagine you're a burgular creeping down a dark hallway late at night. You hear a door open, the metallic *cha-chick* of the shotgun being pumped (I'm assuming it's a pump, as you said assault, not hunting). You are going to be really friggin scared.

Bottom line:
- If you live in a bad neighborhood: store the gun empty in a hidden but readily accessible place (behind your coats in the closet) with the shells nearby (on the top shelf of the closet in a shoebox), if you know where to look. It only takes a short amount of time to shove 5 shells into the magazine. This way, you don't have to fiddle with a lock in an emergency (armed attacker walking down the hall), but an intruder would have difficulty finding either the gun or the ammunition, so it couldn't be used against you as easily.
- If you don't live in a bad neighborhood: store the gun and shells seperately in their own respective locked cabinets.
- A loaded gun is an accident waiting to happen.

your wrong. there are FOUR GUN SAFTEY RULES.

Rule number 1# ALL GUNS ARE LOADED.

Rule number 2#NEVER POINT THE GUN AT SOMETHING YOU DONT WANT TO KILL OR DESTROY

Rule number 3# KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU ARE GOING TO FIRE

Rule number 4# BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET, AND WHATS BEHIND IT.

as long as you follow these rules, you will be safe. all guns should be loaded for home defense. an unloading gun is a club. might as well keep a bat next to your bed instead.

i guess you dont have a CCW huh? you DO relize the only way to even saftely CARRY a 1911 is ###### and locked? what about DAO? most modern guns dont even have a manual saftey. wanna know why? you have a trigger finger. IT IS YOUR SAFTEY. dont pull the trigger unless your gonna shoot something. thats how it works.

Scared of a pump? sorry, it doesnt work that way in real life. when someone enters the home that you dont know, you don't try to scare them. you continue shooting until all threats are neutralized. you dont say something stupid like "stop or ill shoot". you just shoot. they gave up there rights as a human when they decided to break into your home. treat them like the trash they have become.

Whoa, somebody really chewed me out.
Yes, those are 4 basic gun rules.
The only guns that I would ever buy are guns with safeties. I'm used to safeties on my airsoft guns. I'm used to safeties on the shotguns I use at the skeet range. I always have the breech open, the safety on, and the shell/cartridge out of the gun, unless I'm next in line to fire.

I don't trust "my finger is my safety." What if the gun drops, and breaks the hammer mechanism, and the hammer strikes the primer? Boom, off that little piece of metal goes.

There's the slight moral complication of possibly shooting an unarmed burglar. If I can intimidate them into not messing with me again, as an alternative to ending their life, I will take the less messy option. Of course, if they in any way threaten me, all bets are off.

Most people in the world have not the faintest idea in the world how to properly handle a gun. Especially with children around. You hear a lot of horror stories of kids looking down the barrel of a gun and pulling a trigger. Again, a round should only be chambered if you are about to fire, and rounds should only be in the magazine if you are in a dangerous situation (wonder why you don't put more than 2 rounds into a shotgun on the skeet range?). A loaded gun lying around unattended (and don't tell me you're toting a gun around with you all the time, unless you're a police officer, in which case I should be very scared of the police) is an accident waiting to happen.

Most modern guns *do* have safeties, and this is for a reason. Glocks being the only exception, in which case the safety is integral with the trigger (still prevents accidental firing, you must pull the trigger to fire).

No, I don't have a CCW or DAO, and neither do I know what they are. Please elighten me. And I wish I had a Colt .45 for the cool factor, but I don't. I prefer the Berreta M9. A half-inch bullet is a lot of recoil to the wrists to use it for target shooting and practice, and 9 millimeters is a big enough hole anyway should that be necessary.

All that's necessary for the "unloaded gun" criteria is to have the clip not inserted into the gun. That simple. How much time does it take to slam in the clip and rack the slide? Not much. Risk versus benefit: risk your kids blowing a hole in themselves, or taking an extra 5 seconds to ready your firearm.

And I totally forgot about trigger locks. Use them if you have children or inexperienced people around that have access to your firearm. If the gun is locked away or reasonably hidden, then you should be fine. Trigger locks are required to purchase a gun in California at least, I don't know about other states.

@legonas
Simply put, I don't want you living on the same block as me if your attitude about gun safety is like you described it in the last 3 paragraphs of your post.

weee! time for some fun.

see this? this is ME! what dont you see? THIS! its a berreta px4. im sorry you dont think i should be carrying it around with me unless im a police officer. its called a CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMIT. check packing.org for more info.

you also dont understand the differnce between a SAFTEY and a MANUAL SAFETY. a manual saftey is something you must manually articulate to enable. (such as the case with a beretta M9/92) all modern firearms have safties, but many dont have MANUAL safties. a glock has 3 "safties" as part of its "safe action system". i wont get into details of all firearms here though. DAO means double action only, such as many revolvers and small concealable autos.

when you need that gun, you wont have those 5 seconds to load a mag and rack the slide. becuase if you need it, it means your Situational Awarness has failed and you are in situation you should not be in.

there is no slight moral dilemma for me in shooting someone who has broken into my house. im sorry your not a man and cant do what you need to do in order to protect yourself and your loved ones.

just like you said, most people in this wolrd dont know how to properly handle a gun. they let irrational fear and meida sensation dictate how they live their life. they believe they lies thrown around by the VPC and there ilk. they cant handle the responsiblity of gun ownership, becuase they believe themselves to be victims and always blame others for there problems.


gun ownership is about personal responbility, freedom, and self reliance. when you learn and understand what these ideals mean, come back and try again.

 

[Specop 007]

On a side note, Kansas just passed the Castle Doctrine.
Now we have CCW AND Castle Doctrine. Once the CCW takes affect I'll have all the important bases covered.
I will be able to legally carry a pistol.
I've have the right to use deadly force to defend myself and others, and not be required to retreat and I will be protected against civil lawsuits in the event I use deadly force.

Life is GOOD.

 

[zixxer]

There is so much uninformed crap being spewed in this thread that I'm not even going to get worked up. wtf.


I would make sure the person isn't a nutcase (which I'm assumed to did before being his roommate... he can slit your throat almost as easy as shooting you)

Shotguns are IDEAL home defense weapons. High power, LOW penetration. This means if someone is breaking through his door and he shoots them, you probably won't get killed as well.



I recommend you ask him to teach YOU how to use it. It would probably make you feel better. Contrary to what most people on AT think, guns won't walk out from the corner, level themselves, and shoot you in the face. Someone has to pull the trigger. I would assume he keeps it somewhere that some drunk idiot won't find it, etc. If it has a trigger/lock on it, I wouldn't worry about it being loaded/unloaded.



EDIT:

Also, these absolute idiots saying it's ok/going to scare off a criminal by 'pumping' the shotgun while it's unloaded are absolutely fscking retarded.


Most people breaking into your house WHILE YOU'RE IN IT are NOT level headed normal people. Many of them are high/etc and could care less about you 'pumping away' on your 'gun'. There are many stories of people being shot NUMEROUS time while attacking someone in their home... i.e. unarmed criminal attacking a homehomeowner WHILE getting shot

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: zixxer
There is so much uninformed crap being spewed in this thread that I'm not even going to get worked up. wtf.

High power, LOW penetration.

Indeed. 😕

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: zixxer
There is so much uninformed crap being spewed in this thread that I'm not even going to get worked up. wtf.

High power, LOW penetration.

Indeed. 😕

I'm not sure if you're saying I'm uninformed - but as a general rule a shotgun is going to have less penetration than any rifle and most handguns - there are exceptions - but generally that is the case.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: zixxer

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: zixxer
There is so much uninformed crap being spewed in this thread that I'm not even going to get worked up. wtf.

High power, LOW penetration.

Indeed. 😕

I'm not sure if you're saying I'm uninformed - but as a general rule a shotgun is going to have less penetration than any rifle and most handguns - there are exceptions - but generally that is the case.

Indeed

 

[RagingBITCH]

That site is cool. 🙂

 

[harrkev]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: harrkev

Originally posted by: NeborThat's a great thing to have if you have kids or kids are going to be around. For someone living along or with adults, it's just another thing to go wrong. Say you hit the wrong number because you're fumbling, or you forget the combo in the commotion. "Hang on a second! I'm getting my gun!" As you pull a slip of paper out of your wallet.

It is called practice, and it works. I have actually had occasion to use this. One night my alarm went off in the middle of the night. In 15 seconds I was up with my glasses on and my pistol in my hand. I keep my pistols in a small box with a push-button combination. Practicing opening it paid off.

Well, the alarm went off because the stick tape holding one of the magnets on was old and not so sticky anymore. But it was more good practice.

15 seconds is a VERY long time. If a weapon is sitting right next to a bed, most younger people would be able to wake up and have it in their hands in 2-3 seconds.

Well, I have kids in the house. All of my firearms are locked up. And that 15 seconds is from a sound sleep. The first step is to fumble to get my eyes on. Maybe one day I can afford LASIK.

But at least I have an alarm. That sure beats the people who have guns by the bed only to have a bad guy pick it up while they sleep. So I think that I am not doing too bad.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
That site is cool. 🙂

Old_Painless is a helluva good guy, and hes done alot of legwork to disprove alot of firearms myths.
Hes like Mythbusters, only for guns. 😀

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: legonas
*ownage*

I nominate legonas for the "Best Noob EvAr" award. 😀

- M4H

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: zixxer

Also, these absolute idiots saying it's ok/going to scare off a criminal by 'pumping' the shotgun while it's unloaded are absolutely fscking retarded.


Most people breaking into your house WHILE YOU'RE IN IT are NOT level headed normal people. Many of them are high/etc and could care less about you 'pumping away' on your 'gun'. There are many stories of people being shot NUMEROUS time while attacking someone in their home... i.e. unarmed criminal attacking a homehomeowner WHILE getting shot

There have been studies down on the effects of chambering a round with a pump-action shotgun. It's not a myth, as you would like people to believe. Just hearing the sound may persuade some (not all or even a majority) to quickly exit the area.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: zixxer

Also, these absolute idiots saying it's ok/going to scare off a criminal by 'pumping' the shotgun while it's unloaded are absolutely fscking retarded.


Most people breaking into your house WHILE YOU'RE IN IT are NOT level headed normal people. Many of them are high/etc and could care less about you 'pumping away' on your 'gun'. There are many stories of people being shot NUMEROUS time while attacking someone in their home... i.e. unarmed criminal attacking a homehomeowner WHILE getting shot

There have been studies down on the effects of chambering a round with a pump-action shotgun. It's not a myth, as you would like people to believe. Just hearing the sound may persuade some (not all or even a majority) to quickly exit the area.

The big question, are you willing to bet your life and the lives of your loved ones on that?
It may scare them away. I would hope it did, I dont WANT to have to shoot anyone.
But if it didnt, you can damn sure bet they arent in your house looking for easy pickings. At that point, your going to be sh1tting little green apples if they keep coming and you dont have a loaded gun.
Thats not a risk I'm willing to take. Not when it my life and the lives of my loved ones at stake.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: zixxer

Also, these absolute idiots saying it's ok/going to scare off a criminal by 'pumping' the shotgun while it's unloaded are absolutely fscking retarded.


Most people breaking into your house WHILE YOU'RE IN IT are NOT level headed normal people. Many of them are high/etc and could care less about you 'pumping away' on your 'gun'. There are many stories of people being shot NUMEROUS time while attacking someone in their home... i.e. unarmed criminal attacking a homehomeowner WHILE getting shot

There have been studies down on the effects of chambering a round with a pump-action shotgun. It's not a myth, as you would like people to believe. Just hearing the sound may persuade some (not all or even a majority) to quickly exit the area.

The big question, are you willing to bet your life and the lives of your loved ones on that?
It may scare them away. I would hope it did, I dont WANT to have to shoot anyone.
But if it didnt, you can damn sure bet they arent in your house looking for easy pickings. At that point, your going to be sh1tting little green apples if they keep coming and you dont have a loaded gun.
Thats not a risk I'm willing to take. Not when it my life and the lives of my loved ones at stake.

If a round was just chambered, you have a loaded shotgun 😕

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: zixxer

Also, these absolute idiots saying it's ok/going to scare off a criminal by 'pumping' the shotgun while it's unloaded are absolutely fscking retarded.


Most people breaking into your house WHILE YOU'RE IN IT are NOT level headed normal people. Many of them are high/etc and could care less about you 'pumping away' on your 'gun'. There are many stories of people being shot NUMEROUS time while attacking someone in their home... i.e. unarmed criminal attacking a homehomeowner WHILE getting shot

There have been studies down on the effects of chambering a round with a pump-action shotgun. It's not a myth, as you would like people to believe. Just hearing the sound may persuade some (not all or even a majority) to quickly exit the area.

The big question, are you willing to bet your life and the lives of your loved ones on that?
It may scare them away. I would hope it did, I dont WANT to have to shoot anyone.
But if it didnt, you can damn sure bet they arent in your house looking for easy pickings. At that point, your going to be sh1tting little green apples if they keep coming and you dont have a loaded gun.
Thats not a risk I'm willing to take. Not when it my life and the lives of my loved ones at stake.

If a round was just chambered, you have a loaded shotgun 😕

If you have a loaded shotgun already, you have the element of surprise. 😛

- M4H

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: zixxer

Also, these absolute idiots saying it's ok/going to scare off a criminal by 'pumping' the shotgun while it's unloaded are absolutely fscking retarded.


Most people breaking into your house WHILE YOU'RE IN IT are NOT level headed normal people. Many of them are high/etc and could care less about you 'pumping away' on your 'gun'. There are many stories of people being shot NUMEROUS time while attacking someone in their home... i.e. unarmed criminal attacking a homehomeowner WHILE getting shot

There have been studies down on the effects of chambering a round with a pump-action shotgun. It's not a myth, as you would like people to believe. Just hearing the sound may persuade some (not all or even a majority) to quickly exit the area.

The big question, are you willing to bet your life and the lives of your loved ones on that?
It may scare them away. I would hope it did, I dont WANT to have to shoot anyone.
But if it didnt, you can damn sure bet they arent in your house looking for easy pickings. At that point, your going to be sh1tting little green apples if they keep coming and you dont have a loaded gun.
Thats not a risk I'm willing to take. Not when it my life and the lives of my loved ones at stake.

If a round was just chambered, you have a loaded shotgun 😕

If you have a loaded shotgun already, you have the element of surprise. 😛

- M4H

Absolutely. I wasn't arguing for or against having a loaded weapon, just that unlike zixxer said, that chambering a shotgun round does have a very real psychological effect.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: zixxer

Also, these absolute idiots saying it's ok/going to scare off a criminal by 'pumping' the shotgun while it's unloaded are absolutely fscking retarded.


Most people breaking into your house WHILE YOU'RE IN IT are NOT level headed normal people. Many of them are high/etc and could care less about you 'pumping away' on your 'gun'. There are many stories of people being shot NUMEROUS time while attacking someone in their home... i.e. unarmed criminal attacking a homehomeowner WHILE getting shot

There have been studies down on the effects of chambering a round with a pump-action shotgun. It's not a myth, as you would like people to believe. Just hearing the sound may persuade some (not all or even a majority) to quickly exit the area.

The big question, are you willing to bet your life and the lives of your loved ones on that?
It may scare them away. I would hope it did, I dont WANT to have to shoot anyone.
But if it didnt, you can damn sure bet they arent in your house looking for easy pickings. At that point, your going to be sh1tting little green apples if they keep coming and you dont have a loaded gun.
Thats not a risk I'm willing to take. Not when it my life and the lives of my loved ones at stake.

If a round was just chambered, you have a loaded shotgun 😕

But what you said is not what scares criminals.
The SOUND of chambering a round is the scary part, not the actual act of chambering a round. Implying you could leave the gun unloaded and just rack the slide.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: zixxer

Also, these absolute idiots saying it's ok/going to scare off a criminal by 'pumping' the shotgun while it's unloaded are absolutely fscking retarded.


Most people breaking into your house WHILE YOU'RE IN IT are NOT level headed normal people. Many of them are high/etc and could care less about you 'pumping away' on your 'gun'. There are many stories of people being shot NUMEROUS time while attacking someone in their home... i.e. unarmed criminal attacking a homehomeowner WHILE getting shot

There have been studies down on the effects of chambering a round with a pump-action shotgun. It's not a myth, as you would like people to believe. Just hearing the sound may persuade some (not all or even a majority) to quickly exit the area.

The big question, are you willing to bet your life and the lives of your loved ones on that?
It may scare them away. I would hope it did, I dont WANT to have to shoot anyone.
But if it didnt, you can damn sure bet they arent in your house looking for easy pickings. At that point, your going to be sh1tting little green apples if they keep coming and you dont have a loaded gun.
Thats not a risk I'm willing to take. Not when it my life and the lives of my loved ones at stake.

If a round was just chambered, you have a loaded shotgun 😕

But what you said is not what scares criminals.
The SOUND of chambering a round is the scary part, not the actual act of chambering a round. Implying you could leave the gun unloaded and just rack the slide.

I really didn't expect any sane person to just rack the slide w/ an intruder in their house.

EDIT: That's my bad. I didn't read all of zixxer's post.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I myself would be worried. An assault shotgun is not something ideal for home defense (which is the only reason I could possibly think of to keep it loaded at home), as the spread & power is going to destroy much more than any thief could take. Sure it might be useful in a firefight at home, but I'd rather have a handgun for that anyway, if it really came down to it.

Um...are you saying a shotgun is a poor choice for home defense? 😕




And what exactly is an "assault" shotgun? Let me guess...it's black and has a collapsable stock.



And are people actually suggesting brandishing an UNLOADED weapon in the event of home invasion? :Q

A shotgun is an excellent choice for home defense. No way is a intruder going to think:

1) He/she might miss me

2) I can just hide behind this door

3) I can brandish my knife/pistol/etc and outdo them

 

[DrPizza]

As I said, primary defense at my home is against animals such as foxes, coyotes, raccoons, etc. Anything that might want to kill a chicken or two. The 22 is dead on at 50 yards. And, I'll race anyone anyday in loading a clip into my 22 vs. them unlocking a box to get a handgun out. However, I'm not one of those paranoid people who worries that his house is going to be broken into. But, if it is, I can unload 11 shots, and not have a problem with the aim, quite rapidly. Since reporting it to the authorities would be a lot of bother, I'd just find a nice spot on my 18 acres to bury the body. Or, maybe just feed the body to the pig? 😉 😛

Besides, an intruder is going to have to deal with 3 dogs, combined weight of over 250 pounds coming at him... I'm probably going to know something's up, before an intruder even entered the house.