My rig freezes often, doesn't go back normal until force reboot! What's the culprit?

[Virgorising]

Again, fragmented drives filled with crap run SLOWER and less efficiently.

 

[ithehappy]

So this was the result of Glary.

Now I need three more things to do.

1- Backup the Seagate
2- Install that other drive sleeping software.
3- Sell the Seagate (?) (!)

Whatever, thanks for recommending those apps, and some other advises on SMART and all. Appreciate it.

 

[Virgorising]

So this was the result of Glary.

Now I need three more things to do.

1- Backup the Seagate
2- Install that other drive sleeping software.
3- Sell the Seagate (?) (!)

Whatever, thanks for recommending those apps, and some other advises on SMART and all. Appreciate it.

Was even worst than I expected. I assumed you ran those fixes. NOW use Glary's defrag tool. Given how full yr drives are, will take some time. Let it run. A drive should be 20% free for decent defragging. Choose Advanced tab in Glary.

You might consider investing in Perfect Disk. You can set it to preclude fragging in real time to some extent. I would not be without it. You can also run boot time defrag which is very important for locked system files. It works before Windows loads. But Glary, which is free, also has a boot time defrag option!

I would also use registry defrag in Glary.

You would try to sell a sick drive to some innocent human? That was a joke, right?😵

 

[ithehappy]

I want to sale it to a local repair shop !!!! They give price just above one month's potato price !!!!
Anyway, I will run those additional steps, I also am thinking to run that deep scan option. Thanks.

 

[Virgorising]

I want to sale it to a local repair shop !!!! They give price just above one month's potato price !!!!

U still joking, right?🙁

Before U run deep scans, PLEASE defrag all yr drives. Then, run boot time defrag.

And keep them junk free and defragged ongoing.

 

[ithehappy]

U still joking, right?🙁

Before U run deep scans, PLEASE defrag all yr drives. Then, run boot time defrag.

And keep them junk free and defragged ongoing.

Lol, no, not joking.

Okay, I'll defrag first before proceeding with anything, thanks.

Btw, just an hour back I opened both the drives, instantly after shutting off the PC, and both of them were pretty cool, I mean there was no warm feeling at all. Some part of the drive runs at 65 degrees, and there's no physical feeling of it! Weird.

 

[Virgorising]

Lol, no, not joking.

Well.....trying not to judge, but this is a kinda Golden Rule Character thingy. If the repair shop is going to try to get over on some innocent human by reselling it.....well, that's pitiable. Would mean you are abating/enabling bad things.

Okay, I'll defrag first before proceeding with anything, thanks.

Yes, do that. Absolutely.

Btw, just an hour back I opened both the drives, instantly after shutting off the PC, and both of them were pretty cool, I mean there was no warm feeling at all. Some part of the drive runs at 65 degrees, and there's no physical feeling! Weird.

All you have learned to do should help. Question is, can you save the drives even doing all of it? After doing ALL of what has been suggested, see if they run cooler and determine if they run faster and if the system is more stable.

At the very least, you will have learned invaluable things to keep yr drives and a given system healthier.

 

[ithehappy]

Well.....trying not to judge, but this is a kinda Golden Rule Character thingy. If the repair shop is going to try to get over on some innocent human by reselling it.....well, that's pitiable. Would mean you are abating/enabling bad things.

Hmm, never thought what they do with them, anyway, I don't think they are that horrible to resale it to a human being. If they do that, it still is not my problem. I don't keep anything I don't use, so it's either them or the pond next to my home.

All you have learned to do should help. Question is, can you save the drives even doing all of it? After doing ALL of what has been suggested, see if they run cooler and determine if they run faster and if the system is more stable.

At the very least, you will have learned invaluable things to keep yr drives and a given system healthier.

True. A problem always leave you with something to learn, along with the irritation :biggrin:

 

[Virgorising]

Hmm, never thought what they do with them, anyway, I don't think they are that horrible to resale it to a human being. If they do that, it still is not my problem. I don't keep anything I don't use, so it's either them or the pond next to my home.

WRONG. If you can't identify with the ultimate victim, it is ABSOLUTELY your problem, A serious problem re a dearth of empathy, and, sorry, a real dearth of character. If you can't differentiate between a pond and a fellow human.....there's not much I can say. Forget, I would not contaminate a pond either. Since I've been here and asked, I drill holes in my old drives so that nobody can get the data form them, and I put them in the metal recycling bin for proper disposal.

True. A problem always leave you with something to learn, along with the irritation

If life did not have monkey wrenches, irritation you would remain stuck and necrotic forever.

It's how you respond to those, and how they grow you, including re humility and character that matters. You may even end up harvesting joy in being moved to HELP OTHERS. Like so many worldclass humans on this site are....help YOU are right now are a recipient of.

Read about Faust. See the Wolf of Wall Street. All the Godfathers. Scarface, etc.

 

[ithehappy]

Stop talking about Hollywood and books. There's nothing else left for me to see, some left to read though. 😀
And I always found and still find it a pleasurable thing to help newcomers and non tech-savvy people in a community forum like this. However due to region difference I am available mostly on local forums, TechEnclave, ThinkDigit, blah blah...

 

[Virgorising]

Stop talking about Hollywood and books. There's nothing else left for me to see, some left to read though. 😀

There is seeing.....and there is SEEING. As per my signature.

I will now leave you to your own devices. And, I mean literally and figuratively.

 

[ithehappy]

There is seeing.....and there is SEEING. As per my signature.

I will now leave you to your own devices. And, I mean literally and figuratively.

Lol right, fyi though it's the bold latter part for me 😉

Anyway, thanks to you once again. Your help and input were very thorough. I am going out for office now, will come back and do the defrag and see how it goes.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Okay. If the WD is dying then I honestly have no other option to let it die! I have had the previous Hitachi for almost 7 years, which has surpassed a lot worse condition than this, it was fully okay.
Anyway, I have installed Glary Utilities, now what should I run first, there's 1-click maintenance and all that....?

PS: I am deciding to part with the Seagate. Will get a 500 GB Blue instead.

Expecting any modern HDD to last more than 3 years at a run is madness. Especially under "hot" conditions.

 

[Virgorising]

Lol right, fyi though it's the bold latter part for me

Bold, without a foundation of character, empathy and discernment.....is just pain bad.
Unless the bold one is a toddler, say.

Anyway, thanks to you once again. Your help and input were very thorough. I am going out for office now, will come back and do the defrag and see how it goes.

I appreciate this; it has been a little challenging. But, cultivating patience is always a good thing.

 

[Virgorising]

Lol right, fyi though it's the bold latter part for me 😉

Anyway, thanks to you once again. Your help and input were very thorough. I am going out for office now, will come back and do the defrag and see how it goes.

Expecting any modern HDD to last more than 3 years at a run is madness. Especially under "hot" conditions.

While I never run anything under 'hot conditions" I must say, ALL of my drives are older than three years. And only one was bought new. I take proper care of them.

They remain in very good health.

 

[ithehappy]

Expecting any modern HDD to last more than 3 years at a run is madness. Especially under "hot" conditions.

Really dude? Any modern HDD won't run more than three years, under hot conditions? I will update this topic when mine will be more than three years old, say four years. You do know that they provide a five year warranty, don't you?
No offense, but this was the craziest comment I have seen in a long while 😀 Could be that we aren't living on the same planet 😛

 

[Virgorising]

Really dude? Any modern HDD won't run more than three years, under hot conditions? I will update this topic when mine will be more than three years old, say four years. You do know that they provide a five year warranty, don't you?
No offense, but this was the craziest comment I have seen in a long while 😀

Well I would not call it crazy. It's his opinion. As i just posted, my experience does not support is statement.

But I still would NOT CALL it CRAZY.

Now that you've learned more re how to take care of yr drives.....yours might last longer than before you learned.

Can't go on abusing things or living beings and expect much good.

 

[John Connor]

I have had freezing issues and updated the graphics card driver and it seemed to fix it. A WD Black should last longer than three years.

 

[Virgorising]

I have had freezing issues and updated the graphics card driver and it seemed to fix it. A WD Black should last longer than three years.

His drives are UNWELL. He has now, hopefully, learned to take better care of them.

I HAVE only one WD Black now (luv it)......but again, ALL my drives are over 3 years old.

 

[ithehappy]

Can't go on abusing things or living beings and expect much good.

Well I'm not abusing anything, but I dislike misinformed comments such as that very much, it leads to a wrong believe in peoples mind, which is very bad.
Just because you have time and a keyboard doesn't mean you can type anything.
I'm sorry that's how I think.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Really dude? Any modern HDD won't run more than three years, under hot conditions? I will update this topic when mine will be more than three years old, say four years. You do know that they provide a five year warranty, don't you?
No offense, but this was the craziest comment I have seen in a long while 😀 Could be that we aren't living on the same planet 😛

Note the key word. "modern". As in, drives produced with a 2-year warranty. There's a reason that the warranty is so short. WD Black drives are the exception, somewhat. They have a 5-year warranty.

I still have some Seagate 1TB HDDs that came with 5-year warranties, and a WD 640GB AAKS that is probably more than 5 years old, but may have been making some funny noises recently.

But I wouldn't rely on the dependability of HDDs, I would have multiple HDDs, and backups, backups, backups.

 

[ithehappy]

Update: I have done the defragmentation of all drives, including boot drives, then ran repair system files, and then that deep scan. The system boots at least 20 seconds faster now, and feels snappy overall 🙂

 

[Virgorising]

Well I'm not abusing anything, but I dislike misinformed comments such as that very much, it leads to a wrong believe in peoples mind, which is very bad.
Just because you have time and a keyboard doesn't mean you can type anything.
I'm sorry that's how I think.

Well, jus came in from the uber cold to this other cold.🙁

For the record, what I meant was, not learning how to take care of a given device comprises a form of abuse....however unwitting.

Again, hopefully, in this thread, you have learned more re how to take care of mechanical drives.

And, I need to add......I give thanks and major proper to Ketchup79, given it was he, not I, who deciphered re reports and was able to diagnose the objective condition of your drives re your specific errors......and so, suggested you back up yr data ASAP.

 

[Virgorising]

Update: I have done the defragmentation of all drives, including boot drives, then ran repair system files, and then that deep scan. The system boots at least 20 seconds faster now, and feels snappy overall 🙂

I am not surprised, but very happy to hear this. You have now elarned what to do to keep yr mechanical drives healthier, and so happier.

What you did re boot was to run boot defrag. Meaning you were able to defrag locked system files before Windows loads. Very important thing to do at regular intervals. Along with all the other stuff.

You have also learned not all Glary like apps are USELESS. But Glary is one of the best freewares out there.

 

[Virgorising]

Note the key word. "modern". As in, drives produced with a 2-year warranty. There's a reason that the warranty is so short. WD Black drives are the exception, somewhat. They have a 5-year warranty.

I still have some Seagate 1TB HDDs that came with 5-year warranties, and a WD 640GB AAKS that is probably more than 5 years old, but may have been making some funny noises recently.

But I wouldn't rely on the dependability of HDDs, I would have multiple HDDs, and backups, backups, backups.

Again, as I shared, am sure I don't have one drive under 3 years old. But I also observe, the newer the hardware component, the crummier it is made. And I have observed this erosion of quality over time in nearly everything.

And, U bet, backups, backups, backups!!!!!!

I think it's cute, given yr love for SSDs, you do still have some mechanical drives!!:biggrin: