My reason why we should NOT kill Osama bin Laden once he is captured.

[dakata24]

not saying the guy's guilty or not.. how the heck do i know.. i only know what they say on tv..

but i would think if they didnt kill him (if in fact he was the mastermind behind the wtc/pentagon crashes) and had him rott in jail, id think it'd make his followers more motivated, as someone said earlier and take hostages or do some insane thing to get him freed.. they would have that one slight chance of freeing him in their mind as motivation..

i dont know what'd his followers would do if we killed him... maybe they're just crazy madmen/women and would be willing to go all out in the name of bin laden and the same stuff... maybe it'd break their hope of whatever goal they're after... i dunno..

 

[Bitek]

Its a Sh!tty situation either way, but in the end I think we gotta kill him. His followers are already ready to kill themselves for this turd, and many moderate muslims think his preaching goes completely against islam (from reports i've seen it does, but i'm no expert) so I don't think your going to turn many of them. The concerns about holding him in jail and one of his little bitches tries to freeing him by holding people hostage are more fearful. Plus, he really needs to get messed up, the kind that would never be legally allowed. I'm not a really a fan of violence, even felt kinda bad when Mc Viegh got smoked, but this guy needs to feel some pain.

Here's just a bit of my fantasy. Our commmando teams find him and his entourage and take out everyone but him. Gotta make sure he doesn't try to kill himself like Hitler did (also against Islam, but I would put it past that puss.) We take him away to a close location and let professional torturers work on him for a while. I'm talking some sik sh*t, like in Payback where Mel gets his toes smashed with a hammer, just for starters. Remove his adrenal glands so he wont get the natural opiates to dull the pain. Eventually we kill him in some gruesome way, and incinerate the body so no trace of him is left behind. The trick is to take out his group so it looks like he went with them, cuz you wouldn't want this publically coming out. However, let it be a myth to circulate among the other terror leaders so they'l think twice about pulling the sh*t he did.

Oh well, this is just a fantasy, and probably not even a good idea, but when Bush announces he was killed in an explosion while holed up in a bunker, I'll be hoping this is what really happened. :|

 

[phhnyc]

first a little about myself...i happen to be a Coptic Egyptian American...I'm Coptic orthodox (very similar to Greek orthodoxy), but was born in Alexandria. Many members of my extended family have been persecuted in Egypt for not succumbing to Islam...they're considered "infidels," although the Koran supposedly views Christians and Jews as less "bad" than members of other religions that came after Islam. Anyway, getting to the point, I've explained a bit about myself to show you that I've had firsthand experience w. fundamental islam. It's nothing like our mentality, and sticking to extremely liberal/overly humanitarian practices in dealing with these people will be a fatal mistake.

Osama bin Laden is already a living martyr in the Islamic world. Throwing him in prison will ONLY STRENGTHEN their cause. I agree heavily w. NetGuySC...Bin Laden in jail could potentially do more harm than bin Laden in Afghanistan and definately worse than Bin Laden dead. As much as actually torturing him would bring some kind of feeling of retribution, the only postive end it would serve is in interrogation. However it's highly unlikely he'll say a word about anything. He'll gladly die first (although we can be sure he'd rather be wearing some C4 and be in times square when he dies). Anyway, Israel has a policy of pinpoint killing; they find out who's plotting and executing the terrorism and they send a couple of Apache copters to their front door w. and drop a couple of missles up their a$$es. America MUST adopt a similar policy. Reason does not work with these people; they revile America and the way it's imposed its values on the rest of the world. They're shocked that Allah would allow them, His chosen children, to be inferior in any way to the infidels, especially the American devil. As MichaelD pointed out in a previous post, they understand only death and violence. Either we accept their ideals and step out of the middle east entirely (i.e. stop helping Israel), or the death will continue.

From my correspondence w. family and friends still in Cairo, I learn that the sentiment there (and pretty much the whole mideast) is essentially that America is just a giant wimp (to put it in nicer terms). We spend all this money on technology, intelligence, counter-intelligence, military etc. and little Osama bin Laden in the mountains of Afghanistan manages to topple the center of freakin global capitalism, and actually STRIKE OUR MILITARY HEADQUARTERS! He's a hero to them, and unless America starts sending a message that these kinds of people are criminals and will be extinguished upon discovery, they will continue to thrive and be exalted, be backed by anti-American govts (don't think for a second that Yaser Arafat and wonderful Saddam didn't play a role in this) and escape. We cannot play the liberal/humanitarian "let's work it out" card here at all. Any more weakness or unsureness on our part will spell more disaster.

Sorry if I wandered a bit, but I hope I (kinda) made my point...

 

[Bomberboy]

In my mind, you are fvcked whether you kill the bastard or not.

If he is held in a jail, there will be mass terrorist attacks with demands for his freedom. Or, if you kill him, he will turn into a martyr and there will be terrorist attacks in his name.

Basically, your damned if you do and you're damned if you do not.

 

[Hoeboy]

<<Oh well, this is just a fantasy, and probably not even a good idea, but when Bush announces he was killed in an explosion while holed up in a bunker, I'll be hoping this is what really happened. >>

stop having fantasies about bin laden! j/k

 

[hzl eyed grl]

<< I say we throw him into a normal prison and let them decide who's bitch he's gonna be. >>


LOL!!

 

[DDad]

Guys,

It's been awhile since I've done any studying on the matter, so I may well be wrong.

If WE execute him, we will make him a martyr
If WE don't, we'll see more terrorist acts- demanding his release.
Basically a "Danged if you do, danged if you don't!" scenario

A few thoughts

IF we can capture him, have him tried in Saudi Arabia for the murders of the Moslems in the WTC. This is risky IMO- if I recall correctly he could stand up in front of the Imams, swear on the Koran 3 times that he had nothing to do with it, and walk. Theory is that by lying 3 times under a oath to Allah put's his soul into damnation, so if he does swear it 3 times, he must be innocent.

Assuming he won't swear it, he will be found guilty and probably executed. Once again, if I am correct, when the Saudi's execute a man, they do it in such a way the "he cannot enjoy the pleasures of paradise" If that is the case, it would serve as a warning for others of his ilk

Benefits- We would be seen as respectful of Islamic law and we would not take the heat for his execution.

However, it does run the risk of him walking away Scot-free

 

[Unclemo]

you can't keep him alive... or more terrorists will take hostages trying to get him freed. As much as I would rather keep him alive and torture him for life... just not smart.