My profs. policy: No Laptops

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Lifer
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and...? it's the students money. If I'm handwriting notes, there is still phones. You can't ban phones in the classroom, people have phones on them all the time. They might browse the web or read email on their phone in class, or... text. People are going to find a way to do something that isn't taking notes. Hell, I make random scratch drawings all the time. And as for laptops... in my two classes I use my laptop in this quarter, I have OneNote maximized almost the entire time, if I browse away it's to look at my google portfolio. Or, gasp... the school's class content system website. It's a legit method of note taking, and far more efficient. When you have professors who say that not only are the powerpoint slides testable, the things they talk about not on the slides are equally as testable, then um... I would like to write what they say down. I can't do that if I'm writing it by hand, not if I want to read it. And if I'm taking notes and want to add more notes to a previous section, I can do that on the laptop (OneNote makes that crazy easy, just discovered its capabilities two weeks ago, and I am in love). Impossible with handwritten notes. Fuck the professors who ban laptops. Unless only the reading material and the content on the slides, and not the more detailed discussions, will be tested.

Wow...someone needs to go back to school to learn to write it looks like.
 

HybridSquirrel

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I cant read my own handwriting, if I wanted to I could write it so I could read it but then I right way to slow. So Typing is Pro. I type notes like nuts.

Yes there is the temptation to check sites lol, but I just shut off my wifi for battery conservation.

usually there is no wifi in this building, i got lucky. but i also cant read my own damn writing, and i cant CTRL+F my own notes to search for something later on. and its harder to back up your hand written notes. i can easily send my self an email of these notes incase something happens.
 

Cogman

Lifer
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Plenty of people Don't take notes, they screw off during class. I can understand the teachers policy. Screw offs can be very distracting.
 

HybridSquirrel

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Well, tube8 is better :)


Ok, so I was exaggerating when I said anyone, but most people just used laptops to goof off. In a class of 30, maybe 10 people had a laptop and maybe 1-2 people actually used them for note taking.

pornhub works great for my needs.

and idk about you but they invented silent keyboards a few years back, and they dont make noise when typing. my netbook makes no noise at all
 

Crusty

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and...? it's the students money. If I'm handwriting notes, there is still phones. You can't ban phones in the classroom, people have phones on them all the time. They might browse the web or read email on their phone in class, or... text. People are going to find a way to do something that isn't taking notes. Hell, I make random scratch drawings all the time. And as for laptops... in my two classes I use my laptop in this quarter, I have OneNote maximized almost the entire time, if I browse away it's to look at my google portfolio. Or, gasp... the school's class content system website. It's a legit method of note taking, and far more efficient. When you have professors who say that not only are the powerpoint slides testable, the things they talk about not on the slides are equally as testable, then um... I would like to write what they say down. I can't do that if I'm writing it by hand, not if I want to read it. And if I'm taking notes and want to add more notes to a previous section, I can do that on the laptop (OneNote makes that crazy easy, just discovered its capabilities two weeks ago, and I am in love). Impossible with handwritten notes. Fuck the professors who ban laptops. Unless only the reading material and the content on the slides, and not the more detailed discussions, will be tested.

I have a feeling you aren't a 'typical college student' but I'll bite anyways...

Phones, laptops, DAP's, netbooks etc... they all fall into the same 'distraction' category for your typical college student. So what if it's 'your' money you are spending to be in the classroom? Everyone else in there(mostly) are paying to be there as well and have just as much of a right as you do to the education they paid for. If the professor doesn't find the use of laptops needed(or finds them distracting) and bans them during class then so be it, if your life is so important that you can't be without your laptop/phone for an hour or two.. then I don't know what to say. Maybe you shouldn't leave home?

Fuck if I have to sit through people asking the same questions day in and day out because someone didn't pay attention last lecture and now have no idea how to do the homework. My favorite is when I start to get spammed by all the idiots a few hours before the due date asking how to do the assignment. Guess what... put down facebook during class and maybe you would know how to do the work!

Also... paragraphs much? :\
 

HybridSquirrel

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I grinded out my hunter during classes ... fight teh powa!

level 80 31337?!?! h4x0r....

I don't think its fair for him to say that for people like me who use laptop sfor a legit reason. thats why i bought a netbook, because i cant play games. Hell, youtube makes this POS lag. Solitaire is pretty unbearable as well. All I use it for is notes and posting about my stupid Psych prof.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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So he posts everything online eliminating most of the need to take notes at all, but you are still going crazy that you can't use a laptop... what were you planning on doing with it in his class?
 

Itchrelief

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Now I'm glad I never got into the high-tech gizmo crap. It's no big deal to me if the prof bans laptops.

My brain doesn't disappear if I don't have a laptop on me. Have pencil and paper, will travel.
 

HybridSquirrel

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So he posts everything online eliminating most of the need to take notes at all, but you are still going crazy that you can't use a laptop... what were you planning on doing with it in his class?

If you read, he only posts the outline to his lecture, and not all the important shit you need. So what I do is download the word doc, and fill it in with information.
 

boomhower

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His class his rules. It is not your God given right to use a notebook in class. Yes, I agree that this is a modern world and they should be allowed but your are going to run into a lot of old profs that are set in their ways. If you try and buck every odd ball rule that you run into your are going to have a long college carrier. I had an advanced calc class a few years ago and we weren't allowed to use a calculator.
 

Crusty

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If you read, he only posts the outline to his lecture, and not all the important shit you need. So what I do is download the word doc, and fill it in with information.

So instead print it out... mark it up in class, review it at home and then type it up. That forces you to read the outline and think about your notes several times, by the time you get to the exam studying should be a breeze.
 

destrekor

Lifer
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I have a feeling you aren't a 'typical college student' but I'll bite anyways...

Phones, laptops, DAP's, netbooks etc... they all fall into the same 'distraction' category for your typical college student. So what if it's 'your' money you are spending to be in the classroom? Everyone else in there(mostly) are paying to be there as well and have just as much of a right as you do to the education they paid for. If the professor doesn't find the use of laptops needed(or finds them distracting) and bans them during class then so be it, if your life is so important that you can't be without your laptop/phone for an hour or two.. then I don't know what to say. Maybe you shouldn't leave home?

Fuck if I have to sit through people asking the same questions day in and day out because someone didn't pay attention last lecture and now have no idea how to do the homework. My favorite is when I start to get spammed by all the idiots a few hours before the due date asking how to do the assignment. Guess what... put down facebook during class and maybe you would know how to do the work!

Also... paragraphs much? :\

There was some odd issue when I typed that. It was typed in paragraphs, then they disappeared. Then I tried to edit, and it wouldn't save. See the edit, got it fixed. :)

I understand the distraction part, and believe me about ADD, I am very much a typical college student. Grades to prove it. :D :(

But if I bring my laptop to class, it's because I cannot keep up with note taking, and/or the class has so many notes that I want to save my hand muscles the pain. Regardless, while I might let myself distract myself from time to time, the majority of the time I am typing notes. While I find every excuse to procrastinate and not do work while at home, and nef nef nef away, I really don't do that in class.

If a professor is going to have such a policy, they better adjust their teaching methods to not require heavy note taking.
 

Zargon

Lifer
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So instead print it out... mark it up in class, review it at home and then type it up. That forces you to read the outline and think about your notes several times, by the time you get to the exam studying should be a breeze.


while I think banning shit in class is retarded, he makes a great point.

Just the mere excercise of writing it, proofing it, and typing it will increase your retention of it probably 3-4fold
 

HybridSquirrel

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So instead print it out... mark it up in class, review it at home and then type it up. That forces you to read the outline and think about your notes several times, by the time you get to the exam studying should be a breeze.

i cant afford to buy my own paper/ink to support that much printing, and the school limits us to a finite number of pages / semester. There are over 500 pages (549 to be exact, before the midterm) of outline to print out. If you want to buy me the ink/paper to print all those out then I will gladly accept your paypal donation. It's also way easier for me to organize on my netbook, keep everything in order, and all in 1 place. If I have paper notes, and computer notes, i'm disorganized and is harder for me to study.
 

destrekor

Lifer
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His class his rules. It is not your God given right to use a notebook in class. Yes, I agree that this is a modern world and they should be allowed but your are going to run into a lot of old profs that are set in their ways. If you try and buck every odd ball rule that you run into your are going to have a long college carrier. I had an advanced calc class a few years ago and we weren't allowed to use a calculator.

such a rule as no calculators is a far different situation. That forces you to actually know what you are doing. Many people can do math if they have a calculator that holds their hand, but actually doing it with pencil and paper makes a lot of people cry. I don't get it - don't get into math if a calculator is a crutch. It might take longer by hand but it helps you memorize the methods.

Taking notes is different. Some professors lecture on and on and breeze through slides while adding a ton of content in speech, and expect you to remember what they talk about as they test you on it later, even if what was said isn't covered in any other material. And to expect EVERYONE to keep up with handwritten notes would be ridiculous.
 

irishScott

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For most classes I actually find handwriting to be faster. Sure there are tablet wizards out there but unless the lecture is ridiculously structured so I can do bullets, I can draw, jump around, erase and modify quicker on paper than in openoffice.
 
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Most engineering classes, you're better off with a pencil and paper. Maybe a tablet. you need to draw, write equations and crap. How can you be faster on a laptop?

The only class I've EVER had to use a laptop was a Poli Sci class. Humanities classes maybe. They talk pretty quickly, and they go point by point, making it very easy to put bullet points all the way down.

It's 2010. If you put notes online, people print them out and take a pen and make annotations.
 

Crusty

Lifer
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i cant afford to buy my own paper/ink to support that much printing, and the school limits us to a finite number of pages / semester. There are over 500 pages (549 to be exact, before the midterm) of outline to print out. If you want to buy me the ink/paper to print all those out then I will gladly accept your paypal donation. It's also way easier for me to organize on my netbook, keep everything in order, and all in 1 place. If I have paper notes, and computer notes, i'm disorganized and is harder for me to study.

Front/back with 4 slides to a page takes ~70 pages to print your 550 slides. If you stick with black and white I don't see how that cost can be prohibitive. Besides, your laptop cost could have paid for ink/paper for 10 years of college :p