my prediction about brain/computer connectivity

[lyssword]

In the next `30 years there prolly will not be AI developed. Almost certainly by that time there wouldn't be a way to transfer mind to a computer system. But we'll prolly be able to connect our brains via the internet using html interface ZING! Project images to other users with your brain. Or possibly even talk. Zing? yep.


--Update: in case AI is really developed and working, there will possibly be a new system of distributing wealth. Human brains would connect to the AI and AI will pay them money for teaching it how to do a task.

lyssword- 2008

 

[Mo0o]

I'm more interested in AI and self-awareness. We already have a computer that simulates a significant portion of a mouse brain. ONly a matter of time before we can simulate all the neuronal connections of a human brain. Would be interesting to see whether we achieve consciousness

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
I'm more interested in AI and self-awareness. We already have a computer that simulates a significant portion of a mouse brain. ONly a matter of time before we can simulate all the neuronal connections of a human brain. Would be interesting to see whether we achieve consciousness

Well for now you can enjoy this fake or maybe real AI http://www.youtube.com/user/eidolonTLP

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: lyssword
Almost certainly by that time there wouldn't be a way to transfer mind to a computer system.

This will likely come before any truly artificial intelligence. It's just a hardware capability problem, AI is a non-deterministic jungle of information problem.

http://www.mcb.harvard.edu/lichtman/ATLUM/ATLUM_web.htm

 

[Crono]

Then this would happen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mZZiI4ShQ

I side with the Arm.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Why are people just randomly posting about some wierd thought they had about the future? Or about God? Or some random trippy thought? Is everyone high right now and I don't know it?

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: MrLee
Why are people just randomly posting about some wierd thought they had about the future? Or about God? Or some random trippy thought? Is everyone high right now and I don't know it?

High on life </southpark>

 

[IceBergSLiM]

your time line is retarded. We are going to be using HTML 30 years from now :roll:

Nothing is going to be downloaded to browsers. We will have them wirelessly transmitted directly to our brains. Direct communications from brain to brain.

And there will be AI by then. In 20-25 years they will be able to model the brains neural networks.

 

[Alistar7]

It would be nice if they could store an "image" of your brain that could be uploaded into a cloned copy of yourself. I would love to have an extra copy of the image shot off into space.

A wireless connection for your brain to the net would be nifty, I'll take 2 when they roll out the first model.....

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
We are going to be using HTML 30 years from now :roll:

That's reasonable. The problem with some people's future predictions is that they presume everything must change. If something works really well, it will stay as it is. Cars still have four wheels; Some people said they will fly, I would have told them that was stupid had I been alive then.

Perhaps not HTML as it is, but a markup descriptor of objects works really well, and there's no apparently better solution to the problem.

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Nothing is going to be downloaded to browsers. We will have them wirelessly transmitted directly to our brains. Direct communications from brain to brain.

The internet is a fairly direct transmission from brain to brain. The brain must inevitably perceive information as something, in this case it's visual text. You're gonna have to be more specific, in terms of where do you intend to interface. I can't see much use for anything more than standard stimuli, not until the mind itself begins to reform it's origins. 20 years from now, I suspect you will be texting across the web as you are now. It's concise, persistent and searchable.

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
In 20-25 years they will be able to model the brains neural networks.

I put this into more of a 10-15 year time frame. Modeling the entire brain, at this point of technological capability is no longer considered an exceptional task. We know we can do it, we know it will be done, and if we really wanted to, we could do it now. The main problem at the moment is economic issues, which include processing power and scanning hardware. The price of these resources will drop greatly in the near future, which will allow for the necessary funding to be easily found.

 

[yhelothar]

I think we'd easily be able to create super human intelligence AI within the next 30 years.
Here's a good first step we've taken
http://www.seedmagazine.com/ne..._blue.php?page=all&p=y

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: lyssword
In the next `30 years there prolly will not be AI developed. Almost certainly by that time there wouldn't be a way to transfer mind to a computer system. But we'll prolly be able to connect our brains via the internet using html interface ZING! Project images to other users with your brain. Or possibly even talk. Zing? yep.

lyssword- 2008

What the hell does "prolly" mean?

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: lyssword
In the next `30 years there prolly will not be AI developed. Almost certainly by that time there wouldn't be a way to transfer mind to a computer system. But we'll prolly be able to connect our brains via the internet using html interface ZING! Project images to other users with your brain. Or possibly even talk. Zing? yep.

lyssword- 2008

What the hell does "prolly" mean?

It prolly means you are a grammar nazi. To tell you the truth, "prolly" sounds better to me. I do have a firefox spell checker. Of course it's obvious you're trying to be a smart ass and pretend you don't know what prolly means.

Wait, just in case your brain is incapable of understanding a word if it has couple letters out of order: prolly = probably.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
I'm more interested in AI and self-awareness. We already have a computer that simulates a significant portion of a mouse brain. ONly a matter of time before we can simulate all the neuronal connections of a human brain. Would be interesting to see whether we achieve consciousness

Has it moved to "significant portion"?

I thought it was only a small portion, but it was interesting because it did exhibit brain-like behavior.

 

[rezinn]

Brains are going to go extinct as computers evolve.

 

[EGGO]

AI will turn against us because we're the inferior race and those who fail for the brain/computer connectivity will turn into zombies.

It will be the ultimate war of zombies vs. androids vs. humans. Whoever wins, we lose. Total chaos. Panic at the disco. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

 

[IronWing]

I think our brains will first merge with the computers in our cars. First the air bags will deploy, then the windshield will crack our skulls, then the ECU will merge with our brains, just before the engine block merges with the rear window.

 

[frostedflakes]

I could see the religious groups fervently opposing AI, cyberization, etc. once we have the technological capability. I suspect in this will be the greatest barrier to the advancement of these technologies.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
I could see the religious groups fervently opposing AI, cyberization, etc. once we have the technological capability. I suspect in this will be the greatest barrier to the advancement of these technologies.

Yeah, it kind of makes you wonder if at some point we will have the answer to nearly every question imaginable, provided science is given ample resources to progress and is not held back by such groups.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

I can't wait to have to End Process our brain when our browser crashes.

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: EGGO
AI will turn against us because we're the inferior race and those who fail for the brain/computer connectivity will turn into zombies.

It will be the ultimate war of zombies vs. androids vs. humans. Whoever wins, we lose. Total chaos. Panic at the disco. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

On the other hand, it will be humans who will enslave AI, they won't give them physical bodies, the religious would protest giving them any rights at all since they wouldn't consider them having a soul. Companies will outsource most "thinking" jobs to AI's, so we better have a good structure in place if there really is going to be an AI.

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: lyssword

Originally posted by: EGGO
AI will turn against us because we're the inferior race and those who fail for the brain/computer connectivity will turn into zombies.

It will be the ultimate war of zombies vs. androids vs. humans. Whoever wins, we lose. Total chaos. Panic at the disco. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

On the other hand, it will be humans who will enslave AI, they won't give them physical bodies, the religious would protest giving them any rights at all since they wouldn't consider them having a soul. Companies will outsource most "thinking" jobs to AI's, so we better have a good structure in place if there really is going to be an AI.

Wait, maybe the AI will outsource some jobs to the humans instead if some tasks require too much cpu power

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: EGGO
AI will turn against us because we're the inferior race and those who fail for the brain/computer connectivity will turn into zombies.

It will be the ultimate war of zombies vs. androids vs. humans. Whoever wins, we lose. Total chaos. Panic at the disco. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

Of course, this goes on the assumption that robots will follow our own latent tenancies to attack that which is perceived to be inferior. Robots wouldn't have the "programming" that life on this planet evolved in order to survive - unless we specifically integrate it into them. A computer-based AI would have the luxury of a perspective outside of a human brain, without any of our animal-instinct influences. No hormones, no mating desires, no "feelings," just intelligence.


I do see at least two possibilities for the future:
- Our integration into new containers: androids. By that I mean that we could transfer our conscious minds (a mind being the sum total data content of a brain) into android bodies.
- Robots slowly supplanting us as the dominant species. Homo sapien would eventually go extinct, leaving its "children" behind, just as every generation prior has done. These children though would not be genetic offspring, but instead something more than that, more than simple replication by nature. They would be intellectual offspring, superior in perhaps physical abilities, but certainly superior in mental capability: Humanity's enduring legacy to the Universe, not only a continuation of ourselves, but a means by which Earth-born intelligence could advance far beyond nature's restrictions.

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
I could see the religious groups fervently opposing AI, cyberization, etc. once we have the technological capability. I suspect in this will be the greatest barrier to the advancement of these technologies.

Not really.

China and India, the two largest countries in the world. They will be huge contributors to science and technology in the coming decades, neither has religious influence over policy.

Europe, minimal religious influence.

USA, substantial religious influence, but minimally effective at influencing policy in northern states.

The only region of the world that can put out any substantial religious resistance against upcoming technology is the Islamic middle-east, however they are not contributors to science and technology in the first place, so their religious policies are inconsequential.

Religion isn't going to be a problem. What may be a problem is general scientific incompetence and a lack of reasoning amongst the general population, religious or otherwise. However it's the technologically/scientifically savvy that drive progress, and again, their progress isn't largely influenced by public opinion. I see the resistance, but I don't see it having any substantial impact.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: lyssword

Originally posted by: MrLee
Why are people just randomly posting about some wierd thought they had about the future? Or about God? Or some random trippy thought? Is everyone high right now and I don't know it?

High on life </southpark>

REALLY high on life </southpark>
LMAO

i sniff my moms flowers. a nice kick the yellow ones have

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