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My political theory. Read, critique, debate.

bradruth

Lifer
I just activated my university web space and put my political theory up. I figure I'll be able to find a few people who are interested in reading and critiquing it, so let's hear it. I'm sure I could use some constructive criticism. The first portion is full of background information, but for those of you with a good handle on the various theories you can scroll down to the seperation (marked by "Theory"). Without further adieu...

http://uweb.und.nodak.edu/~bradley.rutherford/
 
I know that you are probably looking for more of a conceptual critique, but there were a few mistakes i noticed.

In fact, when the various theories are applied in their purist form.

You mean their purest form. A purist is a person, purest means most pure.

as people are free to gain as much economic prowess that they are capable of

You might want to substitute as for that, and prowess doesn't really fit into the overal sentence IMO, I understand the avoidance of the overused 'power' but you might want to look for a better synonym.

These autocratic governments normally have a very strong military, and use their might to seize colonies for the sole purpose of benefiting the main country. This ideology is called imperialism.

I know you are trying to simplify here but, you make it seem as though imperialism is exercised by autocratic governments exclusively. This is not really the case. American imperialism, is a perfect example of democratic imperialism.
texas
california
hawaii

A close example of communism

Maybe a good example or an exemplar.

Therefore, I suggest that all laws be established at the federal level

This would almost certainly be doomed to failure, not simply because many states do not want to have the same laws that pther states have, but because federal laws are much much harder to write and enforce. That is why only certain things are under federal jurisdiction, because the federal governments move much more slowly than state governments. Also the U.S. is designed to preserve the independance of the states, a law that works in new york many not be great for people in idaho. Also many smaller states would effectively be cut out from the desicion making process if the larger states wanted a law and they did not.

These statistics show a clear correlation between drug use and crime

correlation != causation, as one of our more right leaning friends has been known to say, correctly i might add.

This frees those who do not want to be around those who smoke and the potentially harmful effects of being around smokers, while still allowing smokers the freedom to do so in private property and some public places.

What about people who live in the houses of smokers, such as their children. limiting something to private property does not neccesarily stop it from infringing on the health of others. It would be far more beneficial to simply ban tobacco companies from displaying or advertising tobacco products at all. Thus while you can't solve the problem of people using drugs or tobacco in private properties you could at least reduce the uptake of the habit significantly.

Another important issue regarding freedom and protection is the right to bear arms. The ownership of firearms has the clear potential to infringe on others? rights?in this case their right to live. The right to bear arms should be maintained, but there should be some clear restrictions on who can own them. In order to prevent firearm-related crimes, anyone convicted of a felony, three misdemeanors, or found to have psychological problems should not be allowed to own a firearm. It has been shown that once a person commits a crime it is very likely that they will commit another crime (this is called recidivism). Because of this increased risk of criminal activity, it makes sense to limit criminals? ability to commit a crime, especially a violent one, but it is also important not to take away the rights of law-abiding citizens. It has also been shown that many crimes, namely theft/larceny/robbery, are for financial gain. By applying a tax to the sale of certain firearms, those who need to steal would not be able to afford these weapons, and without a firearm they would be unable to forcefully steal them. All weapons would also have to be registered with the government, so that when a person is convicted of a felony or three misdemeanors, the weapons will be confiscated into government property.

were you solution to this one problem as longs as the rest of this essay, it would still be too small. This is a debate that cannot be dealt with in one paragraph. I am all for gun control but my solution or attempt at one would certainly involve more of a varied approach, the issue is just too complex. Frankly a single paragraph approaches arrogance to me. for one things resticting gun sales has pretty much one effect, people who legally could own a gun will have more trouble criminals will not. Not saying this is good or bad, just that it is true, criminals don't have to get guns through legitimate means, they are criminals after all.

This debate was sparked in the 2000 elections when George W. Bush won the election despite losing the popular vote to Al Gore (Bush won the majority of the electoral votes?271 to Gore?s 266, but Gore won the popular vote 50,992,335 to 50,455,156). Because all populations have representation, thus having their voice heard, the presidential elections should be decided by popular vote and not through the Electoral College. Utilizing the popular vote would also open the government up to third parties, giving people more freedom by having more choices. The government should not be limited to two choices, as there are often more than two sides to a story, and thus more than two solutions to any given problem.

The electoral college is not the problem, it does what it should which is to force, somewhat at least, candidates to be aware of smaller states. The real reform neccesary would be to the type of vote taking place, in america there is a winner take all situation, the equitablility of the system would be increased immensly simply by changing to an instant run off system.

In fact i might just start a topic of that nature.
thanks

Cutting off foreign aid is also very probable

You cut off foreign aid, and we will all see how well we like radiactive oil. I wonder if my SUV would get better gas milage using that new radioactive stuff. just kidding i don't own an SUV, they are for ignorant wankers who don't give a fVck about anyone but themselves. Not talking about environmental degradation here, I'm talking about if you hit anything other than an SUV with your SUV that thing is 3 times more likely to die. And guess what you are no more likely to survive. Sounds great sign me up.

as for the radioactive oil issue, the only things that stops all out war in the middle east is the 3 billion in aid the US sends to Israel and the saudi's, cut that off and Israel would have very little choice but to use its nukes in a new version of the six day war, we'll call this one the 1 day war how about. Not saying i support Israel, just saying it would happen. And the procurement of oil is a domestic issue.

Interesting but you need to ellaborate more i think especially in the theory section, by the way is this for a class or just for fun? if it is just for fun, then sorry for the proof reading.
 
Thanks for your reply and evaluation. I really appreciate it. I'll touch briefly on all of your responses, and I'll go ahead and make the grammer changes you suggested, thanks.

You noted the length of my firearms policy. The problems with brevity I have are because this was originally a paper for an English class that was supposed to be kept under 12 pages. I shortened it to about 13, so I wasn't able to fully expand on everything. It's still a work-in-progress (not academically), which is why I'm asking for opinions. If I can really get it "polished" I may consider looking into having it published.

The federal law code I suggest would be enforced by the limited state & local governments, not just by foreign agencies. The funding for these agencies would come federally, from local sales taxes, from fines from crimes (which as I noted will be used much more extensively), and though the sale/auction of confescated goods.

The electoral college is ancient, and needs to be abolished to truly give the voting power to the people. With the spending limits on campaigns that I suggest, touring the country (including the smaller states--one of which I live in) would be largely unnecessary. Candidates shouldn't be pandering to certain areas. If they truly have socio-political beliefs they should get them out and let people know how they stand, without verbally sweetening their inadequete plans just to get votes.

Stopping cigarette advertising is good idea. The same goes for all drugs, legal or not.

Cutting off foreign aid would not cause a nuclear war with Isreal. The deals for oil should fall under trade, rather than foreign aid. Aid implies giving without receiving. Also, if they did "cut off our oil," would that really be such a bad thing in the long run? We're entirely too dependent on fossil fuels, and need to expand on other options (hydro, wind, solar, and nuclear power--despite it's dangers).

Again, thanks for your reply. I appreciate your opinions.
 
to each his own, according to his need.

That should actually be "from each according, to his ability to each according to his needs."

This federal tax would be the only specific tax of individuals, as there would be no state tax to accompany it. Sales tax would still exist to fund municipal and state government, but inheritance, marriage, and other various taxes would be done away with.

You're going to want some other taxes (or a huge flat tax) to pay for your socialized healthcare. That stuff ain't exactly cheap.

Therefore, I suggest that all laws be established at the federal level

10th Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

In studies across the country, between 50% and 77% of criminals were under the influence of some type of drug when they were arrested,

That's quite a range there. You might want to tell of some studies that have been on the subject.

Take tobacco smoking for example: it is believed in our country that people should have the right to smoke, however the harmful affects from secondhand smoke would certainly fall into the category of infringing on other?s rights?their right to breathe clean air.

You don't have to stand right next to the smoker. If they're smoking, you can easily go somewhere else.

By applying a tax to the sale of certain firearms, those who need to steal would not be able to afford these weapons, and without a firearm they would be unable to forcefully steal them.

Taxes don't really apply on the black market which is where quite a few criminals get their guns.

This could be accompanied by government-funded campaigns, where the candidates are selected by their parties (or independently) and are then broadcast in a government-funded medium (such as television and radio debates) for getting their respective platforms out to the public.

You could just start your own party, nominate yourself, and get some free air time. There'd be a whole lot more candidates on the ballot for say president.

Another current political issue in the United States is the Electoral College.

The US isn't a direct democracy. The states are the ones who cast their vote for president (based on the votes from their state).

Last election would have been kind of hard to do had it been a popular vote type thing. By looking at the popular vote it would seem that Al Gore won. But if you take into account that there is about a 3% margin of error, it might not be that way. Then you'd have to do a recount across the whole country.

The US has the largest military budget in the world at $396 billion; the second largest military budget is Russia at $60 billion. Over $300 billion dollars could be deducted, and we would still have the largest military budget in the world.

The Russian military is horribly underfunded. They can't even handle a situation like Chechnya. Not to mention quite a bit of their military hardware went onto the black market after the Soviet Union collapsed. As for the US, it's kind of hard to be the world's police force on a $96 billion budget.

The weapons confiscated from convicts could be used to supply law enforcement and military personnel, thus reducing the amount spent on weapons.

I think I'd rather a new weapon then one that's used and probably hasn't been taken care of. And the military is going to want more than just Glocks and sawed off shotguns.

The use of fines in response to crimes would theoretically offer a stronger deterrent that just jail time, since many crimes are committed for financial gain. By not only taking away the money the convict ?earns? through criminal activity, but also taking away his other personal funds and taking away his social rights to government benefits, the government not only saves money, but actually gains even while incarcerating the convicted.

Taking away government benefits isn't a bad idea. I'm not so sure about slapping them with bigger fines though. Chances are that if they stole something for financial gain they aren't going to have the money to pay those fines.
 
Thanks for your reply, hombre.

In a number of your critiques you're pointing out how things are now. I understand that many of my changes would require a significant change to our Constitution. This isn't likely to be received well, but eventually there will have to be some significant changes. Take the Articles of Confederation. That was a pretty major change to the U.S. Constitution that we're very familiar with.

The federal tax rate would be higher than what it is now, but essentially it would be a combination of the current federal & state taxes. It would then be modified to a flat rate.

I have a work cited page and I had the authors listed at the end of each paragraph, but I removed them just to clean up the presentation and make it easier to read. The drug % study came from Frank Schmalleger's "Criminology Today" if you're interested.

I also recognize that criminals don't get weapons from legitimate means. I would suggest a significant "crackdown" on black market activities using federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies.

Currently the U.S. isn't a direct democracy, nor should it completely be. Electing personnel should be direct, but our system of an elected Republic would remain for other issues.

Not all confiscated weapons would be used by police and military. There would be a screening process for the weapons. If they are damaged or not up to the task, they could either be auctioned or destroyed.

I'm not necessarily suggesting that we deduct $300 billion from the military budget, I just stated that we *could* and still have the largest budget in the world. Perhaps we shouldn't extend ourselves as the world's police force as much as we have. The UN should collectively take that duty, not just the U.S.

Thanks again!
 
your definitions of "liberal" and "conservative" are in fact demonstrative of your current "liberal/democrat" leanings

let me explain..consider this food for thought...

political "liberals" "know whats best for everyone" and believe in centralized goverment programs to address major social "needs" such as health care, education..
since different people will inevitably have different views on things,
"liberals" need more and more govermental control over such issues to impose their will on everyone...
the final expression of "liberalism" is actually communism..the goverment in its wisdom dictates to everyone what is best/right.

using this definition, "liberals" are in reality dead set against "civil liberties"
they value their own ideas over all others and seek to impose them upon everyone - they want to be your parents...

political "conservatives" believe that goverment serves the people best when it imposes it's will upon the people the least...
that is, it welcomes individual choice in health care, education, etc, and trusts the individual to select what is best for them.

using this definition, "conservatives" are actually for, and promote "civil liberties" they want to treat you like adults.

i offer this up as food for thought. your theory is heavily effected by your position in life, and your personal view of life/the world.

i assume you are a student
you are educated/intelligent
you assume all people are like you
you plan on being a productive and compassionate person.
you believe in ideals
you don't yet work full time
you don't yet pay taxes
you don't yet have dependants (a family)

EVERYTHING about politics is about the money. only the money. always the money. the labels that different people apply to they politics are meaningless.
he who controls the purse (the money), controls everything...and everyone....

very few people are going to vote for or support something that takes more of their money away from them and gives it to someone else.
if you don't believe this, then you haven't paid any income tax.

most people will vote for something that puts more money in their pocket.

to believe the opposite is to deny human nature, reality, and common sense.
 
Thanks for the reply, heartsurgeon.

It's funny, before I wrote my theory I leaned to the right, but the ideas I put forth are very liberal. I still tend to want to vote for moderate republicans more than democrats.

There really is no set positioning for liberal or conservative, as there are some blatent idiosyncrasies. Liberals are for personal freedoms, but politically & economically they favor few options. Conservatives are for full economic freedom, but personal freedoms are more restricted. Fascism is the extreme right, and that's basically a police state. As a future police officer and someone who is very security-oriented, I seem to have a number of political idiosyncrasies as well.

Underneath, I realize that people just want money in the end, and that's where my theory may seem a bit idealistic. To those people who are mostly concerned with money, it would seem that I'm just telling them what's best for them in the long run without taking into account their financial needs.

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

i assume you are a student
you are educated/intelligent
you assume all people are like you
you plan on being a productive and compassionate person.
you believe in ideals
you don't yet work full time
you don't yet pay taxes
you don't yet have dependants (a family)

You're pretty close in your assumptions of me.

1. I am a sophomore in college--Criminal Justice & Political Science majors.
2. Thanks 🙂
3. This is the one you're not right on. I see myself as quite a bit different from most people, and if I was to get support for my theory it would probably be a sort of "cult" following.
4. That's the plan. Like I said above I'm going to work in law enforcement and probably end up moving into politics.
5. I don't like things that are too idealistic, i.e. communism, but I'd like to think there's hope for at least some positive change.
6. I don't work full time all year around. During the summer I work between 1-3 months close to full time.
7. I've paid taxes a couple times, and of course I've had some sizable deductions from my paychecks.
8. No dependents.
 
when i was younger than you..i worked on the campaign staff of hubert humphrey..a classic "liberal" democrat.
now, i am a staunch republican.

to paraphrase winston churchill "if your not a democrat when your young, you have no heart. if your not a republican when your older, you have no brains.."

"liberals" appeal to young voters because of idealism, and the fact that young voters are impressionable (few life experiences of your own from which to draw upon)
"conservatives" appeal to older voters because the world and people don't function in an "ideal" manner..most everyone acts in a self-serving manner..

liberals couch their message in language that makes it appealing ..lets "help" the poor, infants, the elderly, the enviroment, etc...
it's very hard to be "against" "helping"

but in reality, liberals want to force you to agree with their agenda, which more often than not is geared towards getting themselves reelected. reelected by people who won't have to contribute to "helping" but will be happy to accept "help"

did you know that 96.4% of all federal income tax collected is paid by those in the top 50% income bracket.
did you know that nearly 70% of all income tax collected is paid by those in the top 10% income bracket.
did you know that nearly 60% of all income tax collected is paid by those in the top 5% income bracket.

i guess what you think is fair and politically correct probably has a lot to do with how much in taxes you pay.
if you don't really contribute much to the tax base (the lower 50% income earners), you don't really care about increases taxes on "the wealthy", and you want to maximize your own goverment benefits...nothing wrong with that!

if you already contribute to paying almost all of the taxes collected (the upper 50% income earners), your probably very sensitive about the idea that you should pay more in taxes, for goverment benefits you don't qualify for (you make to much money).

so there you have it. in reality, the role of goverment is to keep the peace, both domestically and abroad. domestically, this involves a dynamic tension between the "haves" and the "have nots". nobody wins if people are rioting in the streets because they are disenfranchised. nobody wins if the economy grinds to a halt, and people aren't rewarded for being productive. hence the beauty our republic. both sides of the issue are revisited frequently with elections, allowing each political party in turn to screw things up and tilt the political balance back in favor of the opposing party.....dynamic political tension..the genius of the constitution..
 
Yeah, like I said above, my political beliefs lean to the left, but my respect for candidates leans to the right. I'm anti-abortion & pro-death penalty (but only in extreme cases), but I'm also for socialized health care and education. I really can't claim alligience to a single party, since I seem to waver back & forth in the middle. Some of the Reform party's ideas intrigue me, but it's hard to determine where exactly they sit on the scale. That and I'd never vote for Pat Buchanan 😉.
 
Originally posted by: bradruth
Thanks for your reply, hombre.

In a number of your critiques you're pointing out how things are now. I understand that many of my changes would require a significant change to our Constitution. This isn't likely to be received well, but eventually there will have to be some significant changes. Take the Articles of Confederation. That was a pretty major change to the U.S. Constitution that we're very familiar with.

Amendments to the Constitution aren't the easiest things to have passed. You need 2/3 of both houses of Congress to pass it. It's hard enough just to get over 50% to agree on something (which is a good thing). Things aren't likely to change anytime soon.

Actually the Articles of Confederation didn't have that much of an impact on the Constitution. The Federalist Papers and the Virginia Bill of Rights had more of an impact. Here's a page that says some of the differences between the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution. As you can see the Articles of Confederation would have made a federal government small and impotent.

I have a work cited page and I had the authors listed at the end of each paragraph, but I removed them just to clean up the presentation and make it easier to read. The drug % study came from Frank Schmalleger's "Criminology Today" if you're interested.

I'll have to read that. But what I was trying to say was that the difference between 50 and 77% is pretty large. You might want to find a study that is a little more precise.

I also recognize that criminals don't get weapons from legitimate means. I would suggest a significant "crackdown" on black market activities using federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies.

Cracking down even more would get pretty expensive. And you can only go so far as to not infringe on people's rights.

Currently the U.S. isn't a direct democracy, nor should it completely be. Electing personnel should be direct, but our system of an elected Republic would remain for other issues.

Think of it as a more democratic form of electing a prime minister. Instead of the representatives choosing who they want as the leader, you tell your state who to pick.

If it was just a direct pick, it might be a little hard to do a recount across the whole country.

Not all confiscated weapons would be used by police and military. There would be a screening process for the weapons. If they are damaged or not up to the task, they could either be auctioned or destroyed.

That screening process might be even more expensive than just buying brand new weapons depending on how selective it would be. Chances are that it would be very hard to have a confiscated gun be able to be used by a police officer. That's because if they're in a situation where their life is on the line and they need to use lethal force, do they want to trust a gun that might not have been taken care of.

We could have done this same thing for the Iraqi military (using confiscated AK-47s) but we decided just to buy them new.
 
I think you are devising your theory in an incorrect manner. You tend to treat conclusions as axioms of your belief system. For example, why does everyone have a fundamental right to education and to health care? It may seem like a trivial question, but answering it will help you determine the foundations that prop up your system.
Also, you treat economic well-being as an obvious good. Why is it? Usually, one nation's economic boon is another's bane. You need to spend time considering what is the good and bad. Are freedoms in general good or bad? Is the freedom to own a gun good or bad?
Also, you seem to be putting the cart before the horse. Politics and government are not nearly as related as you think they are. Your own political system is very close to your own metaphysical system. I think that is where you need to start in order to have a cohesive theory. What I am saying may sound confusing, but it seems that you should not begin by analyzing the successes and failures of past governments because you do not have yet have a measure. What is success and what is failure for a government? If the axis had won WWII, would the third reich have been a success? The only measures you seem to be using are longetivity and relative power. That is a mistake.

Developing a cohesive political theory is not a simple endeavor. No one has yet been able to do it; although, many believe that they have. I think everyone who undertakes such an endeavor would be best served by the top-down approach. Metaphysics to politics to government is the proper chain of reasoning.
 
Mss242: I did leave a number of "assumptions" of what's good and bad. It seems that if I got too in depth with why, it would be more a battle of semantics than anything. I have ideas on the metaphysical as well, and perhaps I'll type them up soon also. I wouldn't want to combine the two, though. It'd be best to keep the various sections seperate, IMO.

Hombre: Thanks for the link, I'll have to run through it (if my eyes don't explode from the bright background 😉). I don't really expect this magnitude of change to happen anytime soon, but everything starts as an idea.

I mentioned above that I'm going to be a police officer, so I understand the importance of having a reliable weapon. The screening process would really involve the officers themselves. They would be allowed to test fire the weapons and decide themselves if it's what they want. Those that aren't chosen could be auctioned.

IMO, buying new AKs probably wasn't a good financial move. Recently (read: under the current administration) we as a country have been spending WAY too much, and to cut taxes while doing it? There's been way too much money, and apparently supplies, wasted and it's time to become more conservational.

You bring up the difficulty of recounts, but if we had an election process that worked more efficiently and accurately we wouldn't have to worry about recounts. It's time to evolve a number of our practices.

On the crackdown issue, I understand the concerns about civil rights. I'm sure you can see that I'm heavily in favor of a free society, so only those who are justly suspected or have previous criminal records should be afraid.

Thanks for the replies!
 
This is far too well reasoned, logical, and civilized. You do not address whether or not Bush is the Anti-christ. It has no place in this forum. 😀

I'd be fascinated to see your views in 10 years, after some life as a seasoned police officer, and likely a wife and kids.

 
I'd be fascinated to see your views in 10 years, after some life as a seasoned police officer, and likely a wife and kids

Yes, I would presume he would end up disgruntled, disillusioned, cynical and......conservative? 😉
 
Yeah, that site I posted is a tad bright but it gives you a nice straight forward view of the differences between the two documents.

On the issue of the AK's for Iraqis: we might be doing it because it's cheaper but I think the main reason is basically an economic reward. AK-47s are built in former Soviet bloc countries which includes Poland. I'm guessing that's where we'll be buying most of them from.

I do agree with you on our budget problems. And the Republicans claim they're for smaller government.

Yes elections need to be more efficient and more accurate but that's not going to happen for a while. The difference between the results of people who voted for Gore and Bush was only 1.1%. We're not going to get that accurate using punch cards. Electronic voting would be nice but security issues need to be sorted out.

I do disagree with your description of the "extreme right" though. It's definitely not fascism. Under fascism, the state controls the economy. Fascism is basically the same as Stalinism except that there are varying wages. I would describe the extreme right as closer to a laissez-faire capitalist theocracy, giving no social freedom while letting the economy run itself.

As for the extreme left, it would pretty much be communism but not the USSR variety. The extreme left would support all the social freedoms but would control the economy (tree-hugging hippies 😉 ).

There is more than just a left and a right on the political spectrum.
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
This is far too well reasoned, logical, and civilized. You do not address whether or not Bush is the Anti-christ. It has no place in this forum. 😀

Hey, I could throw in some of that if you'd like 😉.

Originally posted by: athithi
I'd be fascinated to see your views in 10 years, after some life as a seasoned police officer, and likely a wife and kids

Yes, I would presume he would end up disgruntled, disillusioned, cynical and......conservative? 😉

Hah, it's only a matter of time. I'd better enjoy my happy, idealistic, liberal days while I still have 'em. 🙂

Hombre: It's hard to chart exactly where the various systems lie, and I was trying to do so as quickly and painlessly as possible. The requirements for the paper included that the prospective readers were uninformed, otherwise most of the background stuff wouldn't even be there.

As for the election changes (& others), it all takes time. I know that all this wouldn't be ratified over night. Evolution comes in stages; most of what I propose is a goal of those stages.
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon


"liberals" appeal to young voters because of idealism, and the fact that young voters are impressionable (few life experiences of your own from which to draw upon)
"conservatives" appeal to older voters because the world and people don't function in an "ideal" manner..most everyone acts in a self-serving manner..

liberals couch their message in language that makes it appealing ..lets "help" the poor, infants, the elderly, the enviroment, etc...
it's very hard to be "against" "helping"

but in reality, liberals want to force you to agree with their agenda, which more often than not is geared towards getting themselves reelected. reelected by people who won't have to contribute to "helping" but will be happy to accept "help"

"liberals" appeal to voters because because of idealism, the fact that liberals are often better educated and have wider life experiences.
"conservatives" appeal to voters because they don't want the world and people to function in an "ideal" manner..they want everyone to act in a self-serving manner...look out for what's best in their own myopic situation and screw everyone else.

conservatives couch their message in language that makes it appealing ..lets have a Patriot Act, Clear Skies Initiative, Iraqi Freedom.
it's very hard to be "against" "Patriots", "Clear Skies", and "Freedom".

but in reality, conservatives want to force you to agree with their agenda, which more often than not is geared towards getting themselves reelected. reelected by people who aren't Patriots, aren't helping to keep Clear Skies, and aren't concerned about anyone's Freedom.


 
Originally posted by: athithi
I'd be fascinated to see your views in 10 years, after some life as a seasoned police officer, and likely a wife and kids

Yes, I would presume he would end up disgruntled, disillusioned, cynical and......conservative? 😉
I prefer enlightened to the ways of the world 🙂

Cops are funny...their viewpoints get crystallized in odd directions. Probably from dealing with the scum of the earth every day, yet every now and then making a difference in someone's life.

Compassionate conservative? 😉
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: athithi
I'd be fascinated to see your views in 10 years, after some life as a seasoned police officer, and likely a wife and kids

Yes, I would presume he would end up disgruntled, disillusioned, cynical and......conservative? 😉
I prefer enlightened to the ways of the world 🙂

Cops are funny...their viewpoints get crystallized in odd directions.

Well that's fitting, since I'm already going in odd directions. 🙂
 
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