My pentium-D 920 has finaly arrived

stevty2889

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Well, it posted with no trouble on my Asus P5LD2-VM..but not having good luck so far. Bios temp is being reported as 10C..obviously not reading the temp correctly. Got reasonble temps being reported with my 3.2 P4 ES on the board, so not sure whats going on there. For some reason, the hyperthreading option is still available, but it definatly does not have hyperthreading. And the board won't post past 222mhz FSB. I have tried other chips that I know for 100% sure will work with a higher FSB, so it seems to be the motherboard. Even still, won't let me up the FSB beyond 265mhz, even though it is suppose to be able to go up to 400mhz.
 

Avalon

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Is there a newer official or beta BIOS available? That would be the first thing I would look for.
 

Wentelteefje

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Just wait then... Asus will probably make work of it... Is it fully recognized yet? Otherwise, they'll prolly release a BIOS update that fixes the FSB issue as well...
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: stevty2889
Well, it posted with no trouble on my Asus P5LD2-VM..but not having good luck so far. Bios temp is being reported as 10C..obviously not reading the temp correctly. Got reasonble temps being reported with my 3.2 P4 ES on the board, so not sure whats going on there. For some reason, the hyperthreading option is still available, but it definatly does not have hyperthreading. And the board won't post past 222mhz FSB. I have tried other chips that I know for 100% sure will work with a higher FSB, so it seems to be the motherboard. Even still, won't let me up the FSB beyond 265mhz, even though it is suppose to be able to go up to 400mhz.

Did you try and enable HT?
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: Cooler
Originally posted by: stevty2889
Well, it posted with no trouble on my Asus P5LD2-VM..but not having good luck so far. Bios temp is being reported as 10C..obviously not reading the temp correctly. Got reasonble temps being reported with my 3.2 P4 ES on the board, so not sure whats going on there. For some reason, the hyperthreading option is still available, but it definatly does not have hyperthreading. And the board won't post past 222mhz FSB. I have tried other chips that I know for 100% sure will work with a higher FSB, so it seems to be the motherboard. Even still, won't let me up the FSB beyond 265mhz, even though it is suppose to be able to go up to 400mhz.

Did you try and enable HT?

Only the EE chips have HT enabled.
 

stevty2889

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Well looking on the Asus forums, other people can't get the board past 222mhz FSB either. The bios version is supposed to officialy support the chip. Disabling or Enabling HT in the bios has no effect. Still shows 2 cpu's in taks manager, and it's fully using the second core. Tried it on a Foxconn motherboard that has the same chipset, it is reporting abnormaly low temps as well, and won't go past 220mhz FSB either, again even with my 3.2ghz P4 that is known good to 250mhz FSB on other boards. The hyperthreading option doesn't show up on the Foxconn board, so they just seem to have overlooked it on the Asus board.
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: Cooler
Originally posted by: stevty2889
Well, it posted with no trouble on my Asus P5LD2-VM..but not having good luck so far. Bios temp is being reported as 10C..obviously not reading the temp correctly. Got reasonble temps being reported with my 3.2 P4 ES on the board, so not sure whats going on there. For some reason, the hyperthreading option is still available, but it definatly does not have hyperthreading. And the board won't post past 222mhz FSB. I have tried other chips that I know for 100% sure will work with a higher FSB, so it seems to be the motherboard. Even still, won't let me up the FSB beyond 265mhz, even though it is suppose to be able to go up to 400mhz.

Did you try and enable HT?

Only the EE chips have HT enabled.

I know that i was just wondering why it was in the bios
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: stevty2889
Well looking on the Asus forums, other people can't get the board past 222mhz FSB either. The bios version is supposed to officialy support the chip. Disabling or Enabling HT in the bios has no effect. Still shows 2 cpu's in taks manager, and it's fully using the second core. Tried it on a Foxconn motherboard that has the same chipset, it is reporting abnormaly low temps as well, and won't go past 220mhz FSB either, again even with my 3.2ghz P4 that is known good to 250mhz FSB on other boards. The hyperthreading option doesn't show up on the Foxconn board, so they just seem to have overlooked it on the Asus board.

Perhaps you could look into purchasing an "ASUS P5WD2 Premium" which should OC alot better without the FSB limitation, although this just means more money.
 

stevty2889

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Hmm, trying it on my Asrock 775dual 880pro. Strange things going on here too...set the FSB to 240mhz..and it runs at 160mhz FSB. Set it to 266mhz FSB, and it runs at 172mhz FSB..

Tried downgrading the BIOS, and it does the same thing! Ugh. I'm so glad I have an X2. It hasn't given me any problems at least.
 

RichUK

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Yup .. keeping the Northbridge hinders Intel?s ability, against the s939 platform to keep using the same chipsets, as the s939 motherboards are on the most part able to support pretty much the entire s939 range as a result of the on die mem controllers. It?s easy to lose track of all the (quote) official Intel supported chipsets (end quote), Intel states you need to use.
 

stevty2889

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Hmm, I am half tempted to try a BSEL mod, since the motherboard supports 1066mhz FSB, if I can do a BSEL mod, the chip will boot at 3.73ghz, and from what I've seen, it should be able to handle that at stock voltage. Otherwise I'll have to dish out the cash for yet another motherboard which costs as almost as much as the chip. If I have to do that, the cost of getting this thing to run at competitive speeds with my overclocked X2 just isn't worth it.
 

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Well good luck...I was hoping you would find me a cheap mobo I can use with one of these chips....I like you am not excited about sopedning 180+ on a mobo to run a 920 or a 930.....PLus the fact I will have to get 1gb of DDR2 as well...
 

stevty2889

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connecting BSEL1 to ground is proving very difficult. I'll be lucky if I didn't fry the chip. This is one of the huge disadvantages to LGA775..can't do a wire trick quite so easily.

EDIT: Hmm, that didn't go so well. It still posts(at 2.8ghz) but locks up at initializing USB controllers..
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: stevty2889
connecting BSEL1 to ground is proving very difficult. I'll be lucky if I didn't fry the chip. This is one of the huge disadvantages to LGA775..can't do a wire trick quite so easily.

EDIT: Hmm, that didn't go so well. It still posts(at 2.8ghz) but locks up at initializing USB controllers..

:Q

I hope you get it working correctly at 3.73
 

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Originally posted by: stevty2889
Well looking on the Asus forums, other people can't get the board past 222mhz FSB either. The bios version is supposed to officialy support the chip. Disabling or Enabling HT in the bios has no effect. Still shows 2 cpu's in taks manager, and it's fully using the second core. Tried it on a Foxconn motherboard that has the same chipset, it is reporting abnormaly low temps as well, and won't go past 220mhz FSB either, again even with my 3.2ghz P4 that is known good to 250mhz FSB on other boards. The hyperthreading option doesn't show up on the Foxconn board, so they just seem to have overlooked it on the Asus board.

Dang, I didn;t realize you are in my backyard ! (Aloha vs hillsboro)

Bring that chip over here, and lets try it on my P845a ! (I think thats the model number, been a while) that has my 820D in it ! And lets invite Duvie too ! We are all within 10 minutes, and we could all try and work this out. I too am curious if I can dump my 820 ! But I won;t spend $250 on h2o and I won;t spend $200 on a mobo.
 

AkumaX

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:thumbsup: for being so brave to try out this thing. when the opportunity arose, my 820D/Asrock775 combo was promptly replaced at the same price of an X2 3800+/ECS nforce4 combo @ 2.4ghz

have a party! see if you can reach that magical 4.0ghz+ mark :)
 

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damn, that sucks. I was looking into getting one of these for some QMD lovin' in F@H. Looks like it would be almost as expensive as getting a 165, and the PPD wouldn't be that much better.
 

stevty2889

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Well I removed my attempted BSEL mod, and it booted right back up, so at least I didn't kill the chip. Still can't get past 222mhz FSB on this stupid motherboard(athough it seems that no one can, without a 266mhz FSB chip). Still reporting my CPU temps impossibly low(12c yeah ok). Hopefuly Asus comes out with a bios fix, but I think it's the PLL crap with the 945 chipset that keeps the board from overclocking more than 10%. Otherwise I'll have to get a new motherboard, and that would suck.
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: stevty2889
Well I removed my attempted BSEL mod, and it booted right back up, so at least I didn't kill the chip. Still can't get past 222mhz FSB on this stupid motherboard(athough it seems that no one can, without a 266mhz FSB chip). Still reporting my CPU temps impossibly low(12c yeah ok). Hopefuly Asus comes out with a bios fix, but I think it's the PLL crap with the 945 chipset that keeps the board from overclocking more than 10%. Otherwise I'll have to get a new motherboard, and that would suck.
ya i tend to stay away from intels lowend chipsets as they are not aimed for great OCs

 

stevty2889

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Originally posted by: Cooler
Originally posted by: stevty2889
Well I removed my attempted BSEL mod, and it booted right back up, so at least I didn't kill the chip. Still can't get past 222mhz FSB on this stupid motherboard(athough it seems that no one can, without a 266mhz FSB chip). Still reporting my CPU temps impossibly low(12c yeah ok). Hopefuly Asus comes out with a bios fix, but I think it's the PLL crap with the 945 chipset that keeps the board from overclocking more than 10%. Otherwise I'll have to get a new motherboard, and that would suck.
ya i tend to stay away from intels lowend chipsets as they are not aimed for great OCs

Doesn't do much good to get a higher end chipset either, because when the next chips come out, it won't be able to run them. Spending $200+ on a motherboard, that won't be able to run the next set of chips, even if they use the same socket, is just plane rediculous. When Conroe comes out, it comes out with 2 new chipsets, that will most likely be required to run it. Maybe I should try a P5P800, it has Presler support, but uses the 865 chipset, so doesn't have this PLL overclocking prevention crap, but then I'd be stuck with AGP and DDR, when I already have a PCIe video card and DDR2.
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: stevty2889
Originally posted by: Cooler
Originally posted by: stevty2889
Well I removed my attempted BSEL mod, and it booted right back up, so at least I didn't kill the chip. Still can't get past 222mhz FSB on this stupid motherboard(athough it seems that no one can, without a 266mhz FSB chip). Still reporting my CPU temps impossibly low(12c yeah ok). Hopefuly Asus comes out with a bios fix, but I think it's the PLL crap with the 945 chipset that keeps the board from overclocking more than 10%. Otherwise I'll have to get a new motherboard, and that would suck.
ya i tend to stay away from intels lowend chipsets as they are not aimed for great OCs

Doesn't do much good to get a higher end chipset either, because when the next chips come out, it won't be able to run them. Spending $200+ on a motherboard, that won't be able to run the next set of chips, even if they use the same socket, is just plane rediculous. When Conroe comes out, it comes out with 2 new chipsets, that will most likely be required to run it. Maybe I should try a P5P800, it has Presler support, but uses the 865 chipset, so doesn't have this PLL overclocking prevention crap, but then I'd be stuck with AGP and DDR, when I already have a PCIe video card and DDR2.

I wish you the best of luck getting that FSB higher.