My PC Died! :(

NoStateofMind

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Well it was Wed. Sept 6th about 2 AM. Happily gaming along in DODS about to own some noob then I hear a sound "POP!" (Screen goes blank). My first thought "Must be the power supply". So i took out the highly esteemed "Fortron" PSU and installed the old one that came with the OEM from Sony.


Powered up and all I got was a black screen with a white "Sony" emblem on it. Changed video card, no difference. I removed the battery (for what its worth) no change. Reset the CMOS jumper, no change. So I figure my motherboard went with it. All fans spin and whatnot, but no POST. Even tried using the reinstall windows ruitine, no luck.

So my PC died on me but!......there's good news ladies and gentlemen!!!

Just bought these parts ;)

Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP

Intel® Core 2 Duo E6400

Scythe SCINF-1000

Asus EAX1900XT/2DHTV/512

Team Group DDR2-800 4-4-4-10

Seagate Barracuda 160GB 3GB/s

COOLER MASTER Mystique 631

Antec NeoHE 550

Liteon SHW160P6S05 16X Dual Layer DVD±RW

NEC 1.44MB 3.5in Internal Floppy

Arctic Silver 5

Microsoft Windows XP Home

Came to about $1570 after shipping. Did I fair well? Still wanna see if I can get this other one working so I could sell. Happy ending after all guys!
 

RichUK

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Nice.

What week processor?

Also what BIOS did the board ship with? If you look at the lower right of the board, where the BIOS chip would be, there is a yellow sticker telling you what rev.

If the yellow sticker states BIOS 0402 or higher, you should have the later revision of the 965 C2 chipset, which means that you should be able to hit high FSB aka ~500 and upwards. Plus if you have a week 27 chip which is probable then you could be in for a treat.

I personally would recommend removing the heatsink heatpipe setup for the NB and mosfets, and replace the original TIM with AS5. If you do this before you turn it on for the first time, you won't have to scrape off the original TIM when it has cured. Which i had to do and it takes ages.

By the way, the P5B rocks ;)
 

aggressor

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I'd get a different power supply. I know that more than a few people have had problems with the NeoHE with Asus boards, but all I can quickly find is problems with the P5W-DH.
 

NoStateofMind

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I don't see anything wrong with the PSU I chose. Unless they have some issues with Asus, then I will be a tad upset. As for the parts I ordered, they wont ALL be here til wed.
 

aggressor

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From this XtremeSystems Problems + Fixes sticky:

Antec NeoHE Power Supply Units - Buy something decent.

Now you may end up not having problems at all, but I wouldn't take that gamble. Some people aren't even able to install Windows at stock speeds without errors. The guys who take stuff to the extreme usually have very good opinions when it comes to hardware, and it'd be silly to ignore all the hours they put into testing things :)
 

Ika

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Congrats, but switch out that power supply first.

How good was your old Fortron? If it isn't really broken, maybe you could re-use it.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
i would personally get a different PSU
As would I. Antecs are fine for people who aren't overclocking, etc., but every Antec psu that I've ever seen, even the recent ones, have a low 12v rail. That's quite bad, if you like your expensive components to last very long.

edit: What game is DODS?
 

Kromis

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Department of Defense: Source :D Something I learned about when learning about the history of computers.
 

aggressor

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Its Day of Defeat completely remade in the Source engine, similar to what Counter-Strike: Source is.
It's standalone and costs $20 on Steam.
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: aggressor
Day of Defeat: Source
I've never heard of that, either. Is that an add-on?

It's a first party mod to HL2. Best source mod evar!
Enjoy your new PC OP!
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: CKXP
nice rig you got coming...:)

Thanks bro! I havent forgotten your helping me before. I plan to "Pay it forward" (good flick).

Hmmm, everyone seems to dislike my PSU choice. I hope it doesnt become a problem, as I have already ordered it. And my exitement in getting my rig up and running is paramount. The way it looks now, I should have it up and running by thursday (none have shipped yet, bastards!). I just hate to RMA a part and have to wait til the folllowing week to get it running again :(

So, I'll give it a shot and hope for the best.

As for the Fortron, I think that is blown bro. The loud pop I heard was scary. The CPU I dont think was harmed because after looking at it, there was no physical damage. Mobo looks fine too physically. So I don't know why it wouldnt boot with another PSU unles the mobo is fried. Any suggestions?

Thanks for all your input guys :)

 

customcoms

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Things can look fine but not be fine!!!! theirs about a 50/50 chance that the board went with the psu (most of the new similar scenarios I have read indicate that just the psu went). What weird is you said you got a sony logo on boot? That make no sense, as psu your pc has no clue what psu is running it! The reinstall windows routine? Without a post how can you do anything? And a 400w fortron source isn't that good. Whats the Sony rated at? It might just not be enough to power the rig (though it probably is). It could be bad as well!!!
 

markymoo

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one time i had a pc new build and testing out the pc fully of all parts and the floppy drive wouldnt read the floppy disk. the pc would boot up and boot up the floppy disk to a cmd prompt but when typing dir it hang.

what was the problem?

was it...

A faulty floppy?
B faulty psu?
C faulty motherboard?
D faulty power leads?
E wrongly connected floppy cable?
F bad floppy disk?
G bad cpu?


 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: customcoms
Things can look fine but not be fine!!!! theirs about a 50/50 chance that the board went with the psu (most of the new similar scenarios I have read indicate that just the psu went). What weird is you said you got a sony logo on boot? That make no sense, as psu your pc has no clue what psu is running it! The reinstall windows routine? Without a post how can you do anything? And a 400w fortron source isn't that good. Whats the Sony rated at? It might just not be enough to power the rig (though it probably is). It could be bad as well!!!

When I was talking about the "Sony" logo, thats before POST. The reason there is a "Sony" logo in the first place is it was originally a Sony OEM PC. The Sony PSU is rated at a laughable 233W, so the fortron was more than enough. Besides, when the Fortron blew, I changed out the video card for my trusty old Radeon 9200 that came with it. So it should have booted fine. But just sits with that damned White "Sony" on a black screen :confused:
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: RichUK
Nice.

What week processor?

Also what BIOS did the board ship with? If you look at the lower right of the board, where the BIOS chip would be, there is a yellow sticker telling you what rev.

If the yellow sticker states BIOS 0402 or higher, you should have the later revision of the 965 C2 chipset, which means that you should be able to hit high FSB aka ~500 and upwards. Plus if you have a week 27 chip which is probable then you could be in for a treat.

I personally would recommend removing the heatsink heatpipe setup for the NB and mosfets, and replace the original TIM with AS5. If you do this before you turn it on for the first time, you won't have to scrape off the original TIM when it has cured. Which i had to do and it takes ages.

By the way, the P5B rocks ;)

Yeah, I saw that on XS with the removing the heatpipe and using arctic silver (Altho it was the Asus P5W DH, same princable though). I plan to do just that. I bought some Q-tips, Goo-Gone, razor blades, 91% Isopropal alchohal and some cheap $20 PC tool kit from Staples.

 

imported_goku

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If you really believe that your PC failed because of your powersupply, maybe you should 'learn a lesson' and build a system with a high quality power supply. PCP&C is surprisingly not recommended on this forum as much as it should, they make the best PSUs out there, I'd get one of those as it should be the last thing you'd have to worry about.
 

imported_goku

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Originally posted by: customcoms
Things can look fine but not be fine!!!! theirs about a 50/50 chance that the board went with the psu (most of the new similar scenarios I have read indicate that just the psu went). What weird is you said you got a sony logo on boot? That make no sense, as psu your pc has no clue what psu is running it! The reinstall windows routine? Without a post how can you do anything? And a 400w fortron source isn't that good. Whats the Sony rated at? It might just not be enough to power the rig (though it probably is). It could be bad as well!!!

Agreed, I was thinking that too. If you see the sony logo on boot, that means that the system is posting, it may not *finish* posting but it posted nonetheless.
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: goku
If you really believe that your PC failed because of your powersupply, maybe you should 'learn a lesson' and build a system with a high quality power supply. PCP&C is surprisingly not recommended on this forum as much as it should, they make the best PSUs out there, I'd get one of those as it should be the last thing you'd have to worry about.

So if it hangs on POST then it must be hanging on a certain componant. I'm now guessing CPU which I hope not.

As for PC&C, just too expensive. I don't see Antec any better or worse than Fortron. Haven't heard of too many Antec's dying, but then again, I don't know alot of people that have them. Constantly checking people's sig's to see what PSU they have. Anyways, I'm keeping my eyes open.

Any suggestions on which PSU to get? The Antec was only $99.
 

MrUniq

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if the Antec works it works and I would worry about it. Parts fail its a part of life..I've had several Westerd Digitals die...but that doesn't mean I won't buy any in the future.