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My Paranoid/Crazy Mother: "Wifi will fry your brains". Help me prove her wrong

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You should tell your mom that if she checks the statistics, they'll tell her not to stop using cell phones or whatever, but that she should get off her damn @ss and exercize, and stop eating those Doritos. 😉 Also, if she happens to smoke, stop doing that too.

Heart disease and stroke deaths outnumber cancer deaths by quite a lot. And with cancer, lung, breast, and colorectal cancer deaths outnumber brain cancer deaths by a HUGE margin.

Plus, there is no conclusive evidence that links brain cancer to cell phones and stuff like that anyway. ie. Take a million people who use cell phones. Some of them will develop brain cancer. Oh no! But wait... Take a million people who do not use cell phones. About the same number of people will develop brain cancer.

People worry about the stupidest things.
 
Ask if she can get TV and radio reception in her house? If so, then she shouldnt be worrying about WiFi. Yes, I know its bullsh!t but its far more convincing bullsh!t.
 
Originally posted by: Tabb
When you look at the sun you get 100x more radiation from looking at your mom.
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I was going to say something like that. If she's ever gone outside, or above ground for that matter, she's gotten a lot more radiation than a WiFi will give her.
 
tell her that, from a logical perspective, the burden of proof is on her not you. afterall, one can not prove the negative (ie, that something doesn't have an effect), one can only prove the the positive. ask her to give you some scientifically valid articles about the dangers of WIFI. and stress the words scientifically valid.
 
If she doesn't know a lot about it, tell her that is uses even lower frequency that phones, say it uses 900mhz and say that your cpu operates faster than that (hopefully). And tell her that the day she finds something SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN, through data and testing or humans, not monkeys, that she can have you remove it.
 
Does anyone have any actual proof (study, documents) that shows it's safe, or at least an article on the myriad of other radio waves we get everyday that are way worse than a bit of WiFi.

And no, I can't use that one about the dangers of microwaves, she might take out our microwave 🙂
 
Originally posted by: EdipisReks
tell her that, from a logical perspective, the burden of proof is on her not you. afterall, one can not prove the negative (ie, that something doesn't have an effect), one can only prove the the positive. ask her to give you some scientifically valid articles about the dangers of WIFI. and stress the words scientifically valid.
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Well said. Of course, considering that she's probably the kind of woman who doesn't think that way, trying to use such logic might just confuse her or make matters worse. 😱
Originally posted by: CaptainKahuna
Does anyone have any actual proof (study, documents) that shows it's safe, or at least an article on the myriad of other radio waves we get everyday that are way worse than a bit of WiFi.

And no, I can't use that one about the dangers of microwaves, she might take out our microwave 🙂
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Please consider what EdipisReks said. If she doesn't take that for an answer, well, I don't know what to do.

These probably won't help, but what the fvck, it's worth a try anyway...
 
Tell her that neutrinos are passing through her body as you speak that should really mess with her melon:Q
 
There is some proof that mobile phones can fry your brain.
link
Cell phones aren't the same thing as wifi but people have often speculated that they have similiar effects.
But this other study (funded by cell phone companies) claims no link to cancer.
 
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
There is some proof that mobile phones can fry your brain.
link
Cell phones aren't the same thing as wifi but people have often speculated that they have similiar effects.
But this other study (funded by cell phone companies) claims no link to cancer.
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From the article:
" If confirmed, the results would be the first to directly link cell-phone radiation to brain damage in any animal."
If confirmed it says. I wonder if anyone will.
This'll be great for rip-off artists to sell magical and amazing radiation shields, with lots of people saying "wow, it really works! I can like totally feel my brain not getting hurt by the horrible radiation anymore." 😛
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
LMAO@this thread! It reminds of the guy that said his mom thought he was gay because she saw male to male on a box in his room and it was for his S-Video 😀
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Poor guy, I remember that thread, made me watch where I desposed of my Radio trash stuff
 
I'd go with telling her that TV and other radio signals are constantly passing through her body, all day every day, and that they have been for her entire life. And those are powerful waves, they can travel for many miles. 802.11b is very weak in comparison, even weak compared to a cell phone. Can radio waves cause cancer? I don't know, but as someone else pointed out, it's proving a negative. The "studies" that say radio waves cause cancer may look good to a non-scientific person, but to anyone who's dealt with real studies and statistics, they look extremely suspicious. So, ask her this, "What makes you think it will cause cancer?"

I wish you luck, but this is a common problem with people. If you just suggest to them that something is evil/bad for them, they will get all worked up and demand proof that this isn't true. They forget (or don't care) that it was never proven to be true in the first place, just the mere fact that it could be true scares them and they want to be assured that it isn't. A book series I read summed this up the best, "Wizard's First Rule: People are stupid. People can be made to believe anything, either because they want it to be true, or they are afraid it is true." It's sad, but true.
 
Regardless of WIFI being cancer causing or not....there are many things we cannot escape from in day to day life that are far more cancer causing.

The old cliche rings true: It's better to burn out than to fade away....enjoy life, do all the things you want to...for one day you will die regardless.
 
1) WiFi signals use approximately a 0.25W transmitter (alot less then say, Cell Phones (3 to 5W), Microwave Ovens (operate at 1000W + and likely leak say 1% which is 10W even if they only leak 0.1% that's still 4x WiFi), Radio Stations (operate at like 10s of Megawatts)).

2) Back when my father worked for Bell's research division in Canada they had alot of work being done on wireless technology and the main concern of their scientist and engineers where the proximity of speaker magnets to peoples heads (ie: magnets used in call and cordless phones) not the RF transmissions from those devices. (Mind you this is like 15 to 20 yrs ago so maybe understanding of Magnetic field effects vs RF field effects has changed).

Thorin
 
1) WiFi signals use approximately a 0.25W transmitter (alot less then say, Cell Phones (3 to 5W), Microwave Ovens (operate at 1000W + and likely leak say 1% which is 10W even if they only leak 0.1% that's still 4x WiFi), Radio Stations (operate at like 10s of Megawatts)).
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Thats what I'm lookin for! Thanks a lot !
 
Originally posted by: thorin
1) WiFi signals use approximately a 0.25W transmitter (alot less then say, Cell Phones (3 to 5W), Microwave Ovens (operate at 1000W + and likely leak say 1% which is 10W even if they only leak 0.1% that's still 4x WiFi), Radio Stations (operate at like 10s of Megawatts)).

2) Back when my father worked for Bell's research division in Canada they had alot of work being done on wireless technology and the main concern of their scientist and engineers where the proximity of speaker magnets to peoples heads (ie: magnets used in call and cordless phones) not the RF transmissions from those devices. (Mind you this is like 15 to 20 yrs ago so maybe understanding of Magnetic field effects vs RF field effects has changed).

Thorin
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I thought the power was allowed up to 100W.
 
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