My only concern if we go to war with Iraq.

Howard

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I hope our men stay clear of the DU.

/me doesn't want war, but doesn't want to get hit by gamma rays either
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
There are far more frightening things than depleted uranium.

What happens to someone around depleted uranium? melting?

DU is slightly radioactive heavy metal. From what I understand, handling the munitions is not a risk. The problem comes after the DU rounds hit something and become aerisolized. At this point DU particles can be inhaled. This has been theorized to cause long term problems, but the matter is still under research.
 

MichaelD

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Sarin gas. Mustard gas. Blood agents...those things are much scarier than DU. Know how it gets when you have a chest cold or a respiratory infection? You keep coughing up all that flem? Every time you breathe, you cough, and you "hock up loogies?"

Imagine that, 100x worse. That is what Mustard Gas will do to you. You will DROWN while standing out in the 100-degree desert heat...and you can't do a damn thing about it. If you think I'm BSing, you need to research. If you are scared, that's OK; you should be. This is not a game. People need to realize that.
 

Bignate603

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
There are far more frightening things than depleted uranium.

What happens to someone around depleted uranium? melting?

Nope, little short term effects. Depleted uranium has had most of the more highly radioactive isotopes removed (that's why it's "depleted") so it's radiation is much lower then even naturally occuring mixtures of the isotope. However, you never find solid uranium rods lying around anywhere so the concentration of it helps make up for it's lower radiation. It raises the background radiation, nothing above what's considered acceptable for short term exposure but you wouldn't want to live surrounded by it, which unfortunately is what some iraqis have to do.

I would be more worried about chemical and biological warfare. Not completely because of the harm it will do to our troops either. They are about as equiped to deal with something like that as you can be. It's for the civilians who didn't do anything wrong that could be caught in it. Yes they are iraqis, yes something may need to be done about the dictator that has set himself over them, but they are still people. I have a feeling Sadam doesn't feel the same way and will justify "collateral damage" of his own people.

I will support action against Iraq if the powers that be in our government decide it's necessary, I know that they know more then we do about the situation, I just don't want innocent lives lost.
 

Alphathree33

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Originally posted by: sward666
Dude, do you even know why they use DU in those A-10 rounds? Clue: It's HEAVY.

I think it has something to do with the fact that they like to use A-10s to tear up heavy armor divisions like jello.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: sward666
Dude, do you even know why they use DU in those A-10 rounds?

Clue: It's HEAVY.

The a-10 can deliver something like 75 lbs of slugs a second. The abrams uses DU slugs as well.
 

vidgamefan

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Originally posted by: Howard
I hope our men stay clear of the DU.

/me doesn't want war, but doesn't want to get hit by gamma rays either

The US will be shooting the overwhelming majority of DU rounds; exposure to them would probably be our fault.
 

SherEPunjab

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I'm more concerned about the potential loss of innocent Iraqi civilians personally.
They suffered in the early 90's, by the hands of two tyrants, they will suffer again if we attack.

To each his own.


 

etech

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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
I'm more concerned about the potential loss of innocent Iraqi civilians personally.
They suffered in the early 90's, by the hands of two tyrants, they will suffer again if we attack.

To each his own.

The Iraqi people are still suffering.
Systematic torture of political prisoners

Covering events from January - December 2001

A war would not be pretty and innocents would be killed but there would be hope at the end of the war. Right now, there doesn't seem to be much hope for the Iraqi people. Saddam has two sons which both seem to be worse than he is. One of them is slated to be the next Iraqi president.
 

Bluefront

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"My only concern if we go to war with Iraq....." Jeez, you have only one concern? I've got many concerns.....not the least of which is a large number of body-bags filled with dead Americans. Civilian casualities? WTH.
 

MadRat

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Sabot slugs used by modern tanks are more like darts than bullets.

Plus tank battles have been reaching out to three miles and beyond while manuevering.
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
I'm more concerned about the potential loss of innocent Iraqi civilians personally.
They suffered in the early 90's, by the hands of two tyrants, they will suffer again if we attack.

To each his own.

The Iraqi people are still suffering.
Systematic torture of political prisoners

Covering events from January - December 2001

A war would not be pretty and innocents would be killed but there would be hope at the end of the war. Right now, there doesn't seem to be much hope for the Iraqi people. Saddam has two sons which both seem to be worse than he is. One of them is slated to be the next Iraqi president.

I know political assasinations are illegal, but IMHO, its much better. Look, the people hated the guy back then, and they probably still hate the guy in their hearts. The only reason they would support him, is to get at us.

I know it sounds overly simplistic, but is it IMPOSSIBLE for us to assasinate S.H., his sons, whatever, etc.. and install a new leader there? don't we have ANY internal support from Iraqis? I'm sure we do. Lets topple his tyrannical, and threatening govt. and put someone better there, but dont' just go there and start bombing left and right. thats no solution. it will create a million bin ladens.

my .02