Geez people... I totally understand that most of you don't know what lent is, or care... but at least have a little tolerance, eh?
That said - your office has NO right to make you observe something religious in any form. You likely have legal means of fighting it if you need. HOWEVER, they likely CAN stop you swearing for business environment / harassment reasons, so you might not want to push it too far.
Still - just politely decline the quarter-in-a-jar thing, and try to keep your speech professional around co-workers when possible.
<< BTW: For those who don't know, "lent" is another one of those f*cking useless religious "holy months" like Islam's Ramadan. >>
You know, it isn't "fvcking useless" to those of us who believe in it, so why don't you just respect that a little, huh?
<< For those still wondering WTH lent is all about, it's the 40 days before Easter where one is supposed to fast and abstain from certain foods. >>
Its Catholic - some Christians also observe it. Lent is the 40 days before Good Friday, which marks the day Jesus died. It is a time where we reflect and repent of past wrongs.
Fasting (which is one normal meal, 2 small meals, and no snacking) occurs only on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. Its not a real "fast" where we don't eat - just a little something to remind us what day it is. Something to offer up.
We abstain from meat on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, and the other Fridays in lent. We can eat anything else including fish.
<< I don't know anyone who follows that. >>
Well now you do. Practicing Catholics are pretty much the only ones though. You probably know several at work or school, they just keep it to themselves and don't rub it in people's faces.
<< However, one of the salutary customs is to give up something one enjoys for Lent, be it smoking, alcohol, drugs, sugar, etc.. I don't see how swearing fits into that. It's BS. >>
Part of what we observe in lent is to make some small daily sacrafice to put us in a reflective and repentant mindset. Usually this means people give up something like dessert, or chocolate. Some people give up TV. I have given up soda... which is tough for me to do, so it makes a good sacrafice. What we give up is something unnecessary and a treat - not stuff like sex or whatever.
Some people also add on "giving up" a vice... swearing for example. Its a good intention, although we should be trying to do that anyway, not just in lent. Still, its a little like a New Year's resolution, you know?
<< lol ur office is full of a buncha religious lovely human pussys... >>
While I agree that his office should not be forcing this on anyone, that statement is just crass and intolerant (not only to religion, but also gay people). Come on.
That said - your office has NO right to make you observe something religious in any form. You likely have legal means of fighting it if you need. HOWEVER, they likely CAN stop you swearing for business environment / harassment reasons, so you might not want to push it too far.
Still - just politely decline the quarter-in-a-jar thing, and try to keep your speech professional around co-workers when possible.
<< BTW: For those who don't know, "lent" is another one of those f*cking useless religious "holy months" like Islam's Ramadan. >>
You know, it isn't "fvcking useless" to those of us who believe in it, so why don't you just respect that a little, huh?
<< For those still wondering WTH lent is all about, it's the 40 days before Easter where one is supposed to fast and abstain from certain foods. >>
Its Catholic - some Christians also observe it. Lent is the 40 days before Good Friday, which marks the day Jesus died. It is a time where we reflect and repent of past wrongs.
Fasting (which is one normal meal, 2 small meals, and no snacking) occurs only on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. Its not a real "fast" where we don't eat - just a little something to remind us what day it is. Something to offer up.
We abstain from meat on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, and the other Fridays in lent. We can eat anything else including fish.
<< I don't know anyone who follows that. >>
Well now you do. Practicing Catholics are pretty much the only ones though. You probably know several at work or school, they just keep it to themselves and don't rub it in people's faces.
<< However, one of the salutary customs is to give up something one enjoys for Lent, be it smoking, alcohol, drugs, sugar, etc.. I don't see how swearing fits into that. It's BS. >>
Part of what we observe in lent is to make some small daily sacrafice to put us in a reflective and repentant mindset. Usually this means people give up something like dessert, or chocolate. Some people give up TV. I have given up soda... which is tough for me to do, so it makes a good sacrafice. What we give up is something unnecessary and a treat - not stuff like sex or whatever.
Some people also add on "giving up" a vice... swearing for example. Its a good intention, although we should be trying to do that anyway, not just in lent. Still, its a little like a New Year's resolution, you know?
<< lol ur office is full of a buncha religious lovely human pussys... >>
While I agree that his office should not be forcing this on anyone, that statement is just crass and intolerant (not only to religion, but also gay people). Come on.
Is Lent another excuse for people to pretend to be good and stuff? Kinda like the holiday season? I don't understand why people just can't be themselves year round and have to pretend to be nice to people you don't know or care about at certain times of the year... guess it's more church brainwashing at work? Or in this case, your workplace doing the deed.
<< Is Lent another excuse for people to pretend to be good and stuff? Kinda like the holiday season? I don't understand why people just can't be themselves year round and have to pretend to be nice to people you don't know or care about at certain times of the year... guess it's more church brainwashing at work? Or in this case, your workplace doing the deed. >>
Its not a time to "be good" - I talked about that with the swearing thing. While its a good intention to give up something bad, its not what we are supposed to do. Catholics are supposed to give up something that is good, but an unnecessary treat - like chocolate, desserts, etc. We are supposed to give up bad stuff all year!
And no - my Church isn't "brainwashing" anyone.
Sigh.
Why do you feel that you have to give up swearing? If you swear just say, "I dont feel like putting money in the jar, you gotta problem with that?" I hate it when people try to force you to do anything in a workplace. Like give money for things that you dont participate in, or them forcing their traditions on you. I have no problems saying no and dealing with the dirty looks, I dont play the office politics game, my work speaks for itself.
--Ben
--Ben
I think mwilding's likely right - this is just an "excuse" to clean up the office language a bit. I really doubt you work at an all-Catholic office.
If the real intention IS to clean up the language, be careful - otherwise the next "method" they employ may be far more drastic (harrassment charges, etc).
Always try to figure out whats really going on...
If the real intention IS to clean up the language, be careful - otherwise the next "method" they employ may be far more drastic (harrassment charges, etc).
Always try to figure out whats really going on...
>>that sucks. They shouldn't force non-Christians to participate...
Anyway, I'm giving up Lent for Lent.
Anyway, I'm giving up Lent for Lent.
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