My next car

[SCSIfreek]

no thanks, that car looks like pure american made. :disgust: Only american car i liked were back in the 60's and older..... maybe the new vettes but nothing else

--SCsi

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Scootin159
The MR2 is just about the right . Why would anyone need a car bigger than that?

Cause not everyone wants to drive a 2 seater 4 cyl car You don't seriously think cars that light are the norm do you?

Norm? Naw, I know most people drive cars much bigger than that, but I just think a sports car should weigh in at least under 3000lbs.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Both of which weigh wayy too much. 2500 is more of a # to shoot for, even that is a bit much.

What? The S2000, which is one of the most stripped down(sports) cars you can buy in the US weighs in at 2800 pounds. The Porche Boxter S weighs in at 2900 and change.

If you want something lighter, go buy a kit car.

The MR2, Miata, and Mini are the lightest mass produced cars in the US market. They weigh from 2350-2450lbs.

 

[hdeck]

that looks fugly.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

I'd buy one, GTO, Monaro, whatever. It has 340hp, RWD, full independent suspension, and sleek styling.

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

I liked the original Aussie one, but this one is just not quite the same, plus, the build quality will be below average ...

 

[geno]

Norm? Naw, I know most people drive cars much bigger than that, but I just think a sports car should weigh in at least under 3000lbs.

The Enzo Ferrari (or is it the Ferrari Enzo) doesn't even weigh under 3000lbs...in fact, a vast majority of F/R sports cars are over 3000lbs.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
I liked the original Aussie one, but this one is just not quite the same, plus, the build quality will be below average ...

imprezawrxwagon ...is that AWD ..?

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
I liked the original Aussie one, but this one is just not quite the same, plus, the build quality will be below average ...

Do you know something we don't? Any links regarding the quality of Holdens or any pre-production version of the GTO?

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Scootin159
The MR2 is just about the right . Why would anyone need a car bigger than that?

Cause not everyone wants to drive a 2 seater 4 cyl car You don't seriously think cars that light are the norm do you?

Norm? Naw, I know most people drive cars much bigger than that, but I just think a sports car should weigh in at least under 3000lbs.

Do you know anything about the Ford T-Bird '95 to '97 models?? those were sweet cars.

4 wheel all independent suspension, rear wheel drive with a v8 in the front. it handled well, it was a bit on the heavy side at 3800 lbs, but it wasn't designed to be a sports car. it was sweet tho.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: hdeck
that looks fugly.

I think she's beautiful

Ausm

 

[Cfour]

Originally posted by: ausm
Goto <a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pontiac.com/" target=blank>Pontiac</A> hold mouse over vehicle pulldown menu and goto the 2004 GTO 340 horsepower of pure luv'in


Ausm

Great choice!.. I'll be joining the GTO club a in a few years most likely.

Tony

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Scootin159
The MR2 is just about the right . Why would anyone need a car bigger than that?

Cause not everyone wants to drive a 2 seater 4 cyl car You don't seriously think cars that light are the norm do you?

Norm? Naw, I know most people drive cars much bigger than that, but I just think a sports car should weigh in at least under 3000lbs.

Scootin, you've just got to remember that not everyone wants a European sort of sports car. Personally, I find that my 2,000 pound 914 is just about the perfect sports car. Not to say that a big brute of a muscle car isn't highly alluring to me.

ZV

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Scootin, you've just got to remember that not everyone wants a European sort of sports car. Personally, I find that my 2,000 pound 914 is just about the perfect sports car. Not to say that a big brute of a muscle car isn't highly alluring to me.

ZV

True, I guess "the american way" is big displacement, 8 (or 10) cylinders, Front Engine, Rear Drive, and a big car.

BTW, you've got a 914? Sure it's not super powerful, but if you get that up to even 200hp it would be one serious challenge for most anything out there.

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

Looks too much like a Grand Prix...there is NOTHING about that car that says "GTO"...it may be a wolf in sheeps clothing, but the GTO was never a subtle muscle car, its a disgrace to its muscle heritage.

Buy the new Mustang, at least it looks like muscle.

 

[Cfour]

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
I liked the original Aussie one, but this one is just not quite the same, plus, the build quality will be below average ...

Oh really, how do you know this? The interior of this car is beautiful and looks to be top-notch... but I won't go as far as making actual statements about the quality until I go test drive one.

 

[Cfour]

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
Looks too much like a Grand Prix...there is NOTHING about that car that says "GTO"...it may be a wolf in sheeps clothing, but the GTO was never a subtle muscle car, its a disgrace to its muscle heritage.

Buy the new Mustang, at least it looks like muscle.

Wasn't subtle? I thought the old GTO was able to carry the family... I never thought the old GTO really looked like a muscle car on the outside like a Camaro or Javelin did.

This car has RWD, 6-spd, and packing 340 horses at it's lowest form... which will make it faster than the old goat right out of the box. This will be a very practical solution just like the old GTO was. The new GTO has all the ingredients of a muscle car, and will be in improvement in every way.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Scootin, you've just got to remember that not everyone wants a European sort of sports car. Personally, I find that my 2,000 pound 914 is just about the perfect sports car. Not to say that a big brute of a muscle car isn't highly alluring to me.

ZV

True, I guess "the american way" is big displacement, 8 (or 10) cylinders, Front Engine, Rear Drive, and a big car.

BTW, you've got a 914? Sure it's not super powerful, but if you get that up to even 200hp it would be one serious challenge for most anything out there.

If I managed to get 200 hp from my 914 (which is more than double the stock power) I'd have to spend a lot of money. It takes a few thousand dollars to get a 914 engine up to 140 hp. If you want more, you're forced to go with a flat six and that's even more money.

ZV

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Scootin159 The MR2 is just about the right . Why would anyone need a car bigger than that?

Cause not everyone wants to drive a 2 seater 4 cyl car You don't seriously think cars that light are the norm do you?

Norm? Naw, I know most people drive cars much bigger than that, but I just think a sports car should weigh in at least under 3000lbs.

Well, you think wrong.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Scootin, you've just got to remember that not everyone wants a European sort of sports car. Personally, I find that my 2,000 pound 914 is just about the perfect sports car. Not to say that a big brute of a muscle car isn't highly alluring to me.

ZV

True, I guess "the american way" is big displacement, 8 (or 10) cylinders, Front Engine, Rear Drive, and a big car.

BTW, you've got a 914? Sure it's not super powerful, but if you get that up to even 200hp it would be one serious challenge for most anything out there.

If I managed to get 200 hp from my 914 (which is more than double the stock power) I'd have to spend a lot of money. It takes a few thousand dollars to get a 914 engine up to 140 hp. If you want more, you're forced to go with a flat six and that's even more money.

ZV

That is an amazing car. It's like a freaking go kart.

 

[toant103]

Originally posted by: ausm
So wtf are you saying? You want a ricer?

Ausm

i want a G35.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: Scootin159 Also you have to figure that with all that momentum it's gonna kill it's mediocre brakes (what Pontiacs have good brakes from the factory?

The Trans Am was able to stop from 60 mph in under 120 ft.

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Scootin159 Also you have to figure that with all that momentum it's gonna kill it's mediocre brakes (what Pontiacs have good brakes from the factory?

The Trans Am was able to stop from 60 mph in under 120 ft.

What about the second time? The third time? A lot of just one test like that comes down to tire traction, but brakes really show their life if you try that 4 or 5 times in a row.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: ausm

Originally posted by: hdeck
that looks fugly.

I think she's beautiful

Ausm

well then by all means enjoy her

 

[imprezawrxwagon]

Originally posted by: Cfour

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
I liked the original Aussie one, but this one is just not quite the same, plus, the build quality will be below average ...

Oh really, how do you know this? The interior of this car is beautiful and looks to be top-notch... but I won't go as far as making actual statements about the quality until I go test drive one.

How do I know it? based on their other cars

Enlighten me, please, if You can, on the outstanding quality os the US manufacturer's US built vehicles ...