my "new to me" car

[JulesMaximus]

Here's an example. http://www.kdmstuff.com/shop/step1.php?number=2903

Looks good but damn...$1300? Fuck that.

 

[Cobalt]

This idea, it is horrible.

Seriously. I know it's your car and your money, but in my opinion that would very tacky/ricetastic. And obnoxious.

Ugh I just saw the link. Those quad tips are ugly and out of place. But it's your money... if you want fart cans get fart cans...

To each his own I guess... I really don't think it looks bad and for some reason it's also really hard to find one (I haven't) that doesn't have the quad tips. I really don't think its obnoxious at all, it's definitely not a loud crazy fart can. I've heard a few of these exhausts in person and it's nothing that will be annoying/get me into trouble.

 

[mb]

I'd think you can get the sound you desire for less than half the cost of those quads you linked without having to resort to buying a product a high school kid would put on his '92 Civic.

 

[Pantoot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9XAC-BvUyo&feature=player_embedded#

From DrNick's thread?

 

[Cobalt]

I'd think you can get the sound you desire for less than half the cost of those quads you linked without having to resort to buying a product a high school kid would put on his '92 Civic.

I just used that as an example, it was the quickest link I could find.

 

[fbrdphreak]

This idea, it is horrible.

Seriously. I know it's your car and your money, but in my opinion that would very tacky/ricetastic. And obnoxious.

Ugh I just saw the link. Those quad tips are ugly and out of place. But it's your money... if you want fart cans get fart cans...

Actually agreed. No engine with only 300 something HP of grunt should attempt to sound like something it is not.

Unless your 3.8L is a the TT 3.8 VR from the GT-R, it should not try to sound like one.

Unless it's a 400+ HP V8, it should not try to sound like one.

Because I know how fast your car is, he knows how fast your car is, and the guys who don't know how fast your car is do not care about how loud it is, except be annoyed by the noise.

I'm wondering if either of our armchair experts have any experience with aftermarket exhausts on any car?

 

[mb]

I just used that as an example, it was the quickest link I could find.

Ah. I'd try searching for others but my connection at work is dial up slow.

I'm wondering if either of our armchair experts have any experience with aftermarket exhausts on any car?

I do. Do you have a point or are you just being a troll?

 

[fbrdphreak]

My point is that those who've never experimented with different exhausts on a single car should keep their FUD-based opinions to themselves. More Mr. "MJinZ" really as I look back at it. Who said anything about making the 3.8L V6 try to sound like a GT-R or V8? The words of someone who clearly doesn't understand an engine's sound and how different mufflers effect it.

 

[StageLeft]

Precious and I don't like the quad tips.

 

[mb]

My point is that those who've never experimented with different exhausts on a single car should keep their FUD-based opinions to themselves. More Mr. "MJinZ" really as I look back at it. Who said anything about making the 3.8L V6 try to sound like a GT-R or V8? The words of someone who clearly doesn't understand an engine's sound and how different mufflers effect it.

I'm not trying to dissuade him from getting aftermarket exhaust to get a little more rumble, I just think it's unnecessary to get gaudy and expensive quad tips on an otherwise nice looking car to achieve it.
Unless the pickings are really slim for the Genesis coupe compared to others, he can probably do it for under $600 with something that is more visually appealing. But obviously that last part is subjective.

 

[SSSnail]

Why would you put something on your car that offers NO performance advantage, in fact, it's the opposite because of the added weight. Might as well get one of these. It probably sounds better and costs much less, and less weight to boot. Hey, it's even removable! All the benefits...

Seriously though, put that money into your engine and get the ENGINE to make the noise, not your exhaust.

I'm wondering if either of our armchair experts have any experience with aftermarket exhausts on any car?

Shoot away.

 

[Cobalt]

Why would you put something on your car that offers NO performance advantage, in fact, it's the opposite because of the added weight. Might as well get one of these. It probably sounds better and costs much less, and less weight to boot. Hey, it's even removable! All the benefits...

Seriously though, put that money into your engine and get the ENGINE to make the noise, not your exhaust.



Shoot away.

There is a performance advantage, especially after a tune + intake.

 

[ayabe]

Definitely do some research on what your gonna want, you may not like what you end up with.

Saw some videos yesterday of a few exhausts on the 2.0T and they sound...terrible.

 

[Cobalt]

Definitely do some research on what your gonna want, you may not like what you end up with.

Saw some videos yesterday of a few exhausts on the 2.0T and they sound...terrible.

I have been doing a lot of research. I've been a member of the gencoupe forum for quite a long time as I've had my eyes set on this car since it was announced. I'm waiting till atleast spring until there are more options out as the pickings for the 3.8 are few and far. Most of them are from Korea also like the one I linked earlier and they are crazy expensive. They do sound good though.

 

[SSSnail]

There is a performance advantage, especially after a tune + intake.

Your quad tips add NOTHING to any performance, NONE.

The only benefits you'll get from a COMPLETE exhaust overhaul is if you add force induction. Yes, if you put in intake, headers, high flow cats, appropriate pipe diameter, and tune your ECU, you may gain some power. The gain is minimal, however based on dollars spent per HP gain. The reasons is that the engine is almost already at its max efficiency, so free up the breathing without adding any extra work to the engine won't add much power. It's like you with a bigger mouth and asshole, won't make you any stronger or faster, just louder and more obnoxious (Not saying you you, but you as an example). Build your muscle son!

Instead of wasting money on exhaust, concentrate on your engine. Once your engine is beefed up and your exhaust becomes the bottle neck THAT's when you upgrade your exhaust. Of course if you go the forced induction route, exhaust upgrade is a must.

Most kids just think adding muffler and intake is gonna gain them 50 HP, and that Greddy sticker will net another 10 HP. No.

 

[StageLeft]

What sort of actual performance gain are we talking about because I bet it's pretty darn mild.

 

[Cobalt]

Your quad tips add NOTHING to any performance, NONE.

The only benefits you'll get from a COMPLETE exhaust overhaul is if you add force induction. Yes, if you put in intake, headers, high flow cats, appropriate pipe diameter, and tune your ECU, you may gain some power. The gain is minimal, however based on dollars spent per HP gain. The reasons is that the engine is almost already at its max efficiency, so free up the breathing without adding any extra work to the engine won't add much power. It's like you with a bigger mouth and asshole, won't make you any stronger or faster, just louder and more obnoxious (Not saying you you, but you as an example). Build your muscle son!

Instead of wasting money on exhaust, concentrate on your engine. Once your engine is beefed up and your exhaust becomes the bottle neck THAT's when you upgrade your exhaust. Of course if you go the forced induction route, exhaust upgrade is a must.

Most kids just think adding muffler and intake is gonna gain them 50 HP, and that Greddy sticker will net another 10 HP. No.

I guess I should of clarified that I meant exhaust, not quad tip. I know what I'm getting out of said parts and I know what to expect. I'm not some high school kid looking to create a rice rocket so maybe I'll let you all know that now. I'm not expect crazy gains off of it and if you knew much about the tuning options for this car there really isn't much out there for it. And that is totally fine by me because I'm not trying to go crazy with it.

The brilliant thing is everyone has an opinion, so I'm sorry for starting a shit slinging fest over a fuckin exhaust, this is getting a little ridiculous.

 

[Chrono]

Actually, for the evo x, it's pretty beneficial when you get a new tbe, fmic, etc. with a tune. I honestly like being stock! The only thing I have right now is a stage 1 cobb tune. I used to have a full TBE with Stage 2 tune on my 06' STI and man that thing was BEAST in terms of torque! I'm almost 30 and I like quiet. I'm thinking about the mxp dual exhaust though hm...

 

[SSSnail]

Let's just say if there was NOTHING upgrade worthy for the car I'd purchase, and I have a choice between exhaust or nothing? I'd chose weight reduction.

Do you want to go fast or look fast?

And this is not opinion, this is fact - If you're gonna upgrade your car to go fast, start with your engine.

 

[Cobalt]

Let's just say if there was NOTHING upgrade worthy for the car I'd purchase, and I have a choice between exhaust or nothing? I'd chose weight reduction.

Do you want to go fast or look fast?

And this is not opinion, this is fact - If you're gonna upgrade your car to go fast, start with your engine.

Yes I understand that. HOWEVER, if you had read any of my previous posts in what I want to accomplish with the exhaust (sound) then you wouldn't be here trying to school me on modding cars.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Am I the only one that thinks it doesn't sound that bad? Nor look that bad also? To 99.9% of people who look at it it seems stock or close enough.

It doesn't sound like an STi with a cobb exhaust but its certainly not the worst thing i've ever heard.

 

[SSSnail]

Yes I understand that. HOWEVER, if you had read any of my previous posts in what I want to accomplish with the exhaust (sound) then you wouldn't be here trying to school me on modding cars.

If you want sound, just get mufflers. Much cheaper and still has the same affects. And you don't have to worry about being smog legal.

 

[ayabe]

I listened to that clip, sounds better than the magnaflow crap I heard yesterday, but still, meh that's a lot of jack even for a dual canister, if it was titanium then I could see the cost being a little more inline.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Having modded cars I'm going to chime in on the whole performance debate going on here. I had a Mustang GT that the idiot who owned it before me had installed cheap MAC headers on. He did nothing else to the exhaust and it wasn't helping the car at all and I never could get them to stay tight and not leak. Anyway, I put a pair of Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers on it and it sounded fantastic but did absolutely nothing to improve performance. It wasn't until I trashed those shitty MAC headers and installed a pair of Ford Motorsport shorty headers that I started to unlock some of the potential of that engine.

I seriously doubt that a catback exhaust is going to do anything to improve performance on that car. Not to mention it states "Race Version" on the website so you're spending $1300 and making your car illegal at the same time.

Maybe with a better intake and tune you might improve the performance but then you're looking at spending probably another grand or more.

But hey, it's your money...

 

[Hyperlite]

I don't agree with all the after-market exhaust bashing. I'm pretty sure the OP is aware he isn't going to get any more than maybe 10hp out of an exhaust. maybe. I do totally understand wanting to add a little something to the exhaust note. And 1300 isn't that steep...

That said, i DO agree that intake and tune, among other possible engine mods, should be your first upgrades.