My New System

[IanE]

So I'm pretty new at putting computers together... this is the system I'm putting together currently. Let me know what you think and if anything might be a better change for it or anything. Thanks guys. -Ian


CPU - AMD Athlon 64 3200+
MOTHERBOARD - MSI K8N Neo Platinum
RAM - 2 x 512mb Corsair XMS Platinum PC3200
SOUND - Creative Labs Audigy 2 ZS
VIDEO - BFG GeForce 6800 GT
HARDDRIVE - Western Digital Special Caviar Edition 120gb, 7,200 RPM 8mb
OPTICAL DRIVE - Sony Internal DVD-ROM/CD-RW
POWER SUPPLY - 480W Antec TrueBlue
CASE - Antec Suber LANBoy
MONITOR - MPC 19" Silver Flat Screen
KEYBOARD - Logisys Illuminated Silver Keyboard
MOUSE - Microsoft Silver Intellimouse
SURROUND SOUND - Midland MX-5 90w 5.1 System


If you guys have any recommendations on anything, please let me know. Thanks for checking this out.

Ian

 

[dennisjai215]

klipsh 5.1

 

[footbal07]

you might want to consider a 3200 newcastle and 754 mobo with nforce chipset if u plan to oc at all or if not a asus k8v and then use the extra money towards a raptor (wit a 160 gig seagate, samsung, or hitachi) and nec 2510 dvd burner.

 

[IanE]

I don't plan on overclocking anything on the system, nor do I need that much harddrive space or another DVD burner, and an ASUS K8V wouldn't work with my CPU, but thanks.

 

[Corporate Thug]

3200 newcastle and 754 mobo is far more cost efficent like footbal said

you may also want to look into a 6800 GT

 

[footbal07]

what i meant was ur not goina to see a noticable difference between the 3200 and the 3500, if u went wit a 3200 newcastle and k8v or msi neo, u would save a couple hundred dollars that could be spent elseware on ur comp for greater overall performance hence the raptor or even 6800ultra

 

[SneakyStuff]

6800 GT

 

[IanE]

I want to go with the 3500+ because if I understand right, AMD's going to get rid of 754 socket components soon, and I'd like ot be able to upgrade in the future, that's why I chose the 939 CPU and MOBO.

6800GT? Any reasons or benchmarks I can look at?

 

[dennisjai215]

Originally posted by: footbal07
what i meant was ur not goina to see a noticable difference between the 3200 and the 3500, if u went wit a 3200 newcastle and k8v or msi neo, u would save a couple hundred dollars that could be spent elseware on ur comp for greater overall performance hence the raptor or even 6800ultra

ur gonna see a noticable difference buddy

if it was the 3400 vs 3500 THEN you wouldnt see a noticable difference

he wants a s939 for future upgradability let him choose what he wants

 

[ulty]

Nice computer!

Keep your options open, you won't regret it.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: dennisjai215

Originally posted by: footbal07
what i meant was ur not goina to see a noticable difference between the 3200 and the 3500, if u went wit a 3200 newcastle and k8v or msi neo, u would save a couple hundred dollars that could be spent elseware on ur comp for greater overall performance hence the raptor or even 6800ultra

ur gonna see a noticable difference buddy

if it was the 3400 vs 3500 THEN you wouldnt see a noticable difference

he wants a s939 for future upgradability let him choose what he wants

No one is going to see any difference between a 2.2GHz 754 3200+ and 2.2GHz 939 3500+, and the price difference between them is huge.

The 939 A64s are overpriced IMO.

 

[ulty]

If he has the money, why not? Overpriced, but if the 754 goes, then the 939 will still be available...

 

[tooltime]

5.1 speakers: logitech z-680

 

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: ulty
If he has the money, why not? Overpriced, but if the 754 goes, then the 939 will still be available...

So what if the socket 754 goes the way into the abyss? You buy a 754 A64 now and if you want a 939 A64 badly later you can always upgrade the CPU together with a new motherboard too (its recommended to do so), and prices of 939 components then will be cheaper BTW.

But right now AMD is charging an extra $200 for the same 2.2Ghz chip just with a socket 939 interface and dual channel RAM capability that does very little to increase performance.

Of course, its his money and we have no right to dictate what he should do with it.

 

[IanE]

StrangerGuy, you do have a very good point about purchasing now or later, but the truth is I WILL be upgrading the 939, so if I got the 754 now, that's roughtly $300 with the mobo. And roughly another $200 in the future for the 939 making it around $500 total, which is what I'm spending now with the 939.

But since it's the same price, I might just get the 754 now and have some extra fun money... thanks for the input.

Ian.

PS - Any X800 Pro type graphics cards you guys know about? I'd love to be fully prepared for Doom3, and I thought the X800 Pro would do it, I hear otherwise. Let me know. Thanks again.

 

[JackHawksmoor]

The x800 Pro will work fine of course, the 6800 GT will just be faster (almost for sure)

 

[Tostada]

IanE: You need to think a little harder about the math.

Socket 939 Athlon 3500+ (Newcastle 2.2) Retail = $497.00
Asus A8V Deluxe = $180.00
Total = $677.00

Socket 754 Athlon 3200+ (Newcastle 2.2) Retail = $282.00
MSI K8N Neo Platinum nForce 3 250Gb = $130.00
Total = $412.00, difference = $265.00

Socket 754 Athlon 3200+ (Newcastle 2.2) Retail = $282.00
Chaintech nForce 3 250 = $88
Total = $370.00, difference = $307.00

So, you're paying right around $300 extra today to keep you from having to buy a new motherboard when you upgrade your CPU. Not a very good investment.

Also, there will definitely be advantages to buying a new motherboard. There will no doubt be chipset improvements, and you might want PCI-E.

People usually upgrade their motherboard the same time they upgrade their CPU. The only time you will see people regularly upgrading their CPU only is if they're building a budget system. Like, if you were using the cheapest Athlon 64 2800+ you could get, it would be practical to upgrade the CPU before you got a new motherboard.

I'd like a Socket 939 board as much as the next guy, and next year all the performance boards will be Socket 939, but you still don't have to worry about Socket 754 dropping off the face of the earth in the next two years.

 

[IanE]

ASUS A8V Deluxe is $137.00 at ADO Systems.

I'd definitely go with the 754 system, but I hear plenty of dates about the 754 sockets going obsolete from a few months from today and then your estimate or 2 years, which is why I'm willing to dish out the extra money because I can afford to. Of course I'd love to be able to save some money, so if any of you guys can help me find some hard evidence of the 754's staying around for at least a year, that'd be much help.

All of this info is helping me out a bunch, guys, please keep it coming.

6800 GT says you? I'll look up some benchmarks on it... hopefully with the money I might be saving with the 754 can go towards a greater graphics card than the X800...

What do you guys think about the X800 PE?

 

[IanE]

Hey guys, new system configuration at the top. I'm most likely going for the ATI Radeon X800 Pro... the other cards are just a little to expensive right now. Thanks for the help.

Ian Ellis

 

[IanE]

I've decided to go with the BFG GeForce 6800 GT instead of the X800.

What do you guys think?

 

[Confusednewbie1552]

Originally posted by: IanE
so if any of you guys can help me find some hard evidence of the 754's staying around for at least a year

I might be wrong about this but, the Athlon XP will be made for Socket 754 which means socket 754 will still exist for a while.