My new kit-suggestions on OC please

[Sokratz]

After over 2 years of not spending a dime on my 1900+ geforce3 ultra, cheap 512 crap ram, (you get the point. etc). I decided to blow some real cash and followed AnandTech's lastest OC guide, nearly to the letter.

So, this is what's coming in the mail (hands shaking)
Mobile XP 2500+
Abit NF7-S Rev2
1GB Mushkin Pc3500 Level 1 dual pack
Antec True430
Sapphire 9800pro 128
Danger Den kit: RBX, Maze4GPU, Hydro L30, Black Ice Extreme Rad, 1/2OD, Evercool 120mm 80CFM
Artic Silver 5
Lapping Kit (even though the blocks are lapped to 1200/600 I'm going to go for 2000)

Now what to do with this pricy little peach of mine? I'm not expressily framiliar with what OC settings I should run all this kit. I did read and some forums the guide but I'm kind of a n00b. I'll be upset if it can't hit 2.6 though.

Thanks!
Sokratz

 

[Mik3y]

first of all, set the fsb to 200, or 400, whcihever u go by. then, increase the voltage to 1.7 and work your way up. i say 1.8 max. then increase the multiplier to 12 and then work your way up. 2600MHz is 13 x 200. its all trial and error.

 

[Jeff7181]

Be prepared to be upset... overclocking is never guaranteed.

*EDIT* By the way, you have a PM, Sokratz =)

 

[Mik3y]

dont listen to him, if you know what you're doing and if you're careful, then it WILL be done correctly. just make sure you can keep it stable, as i doubt you will have any problems with your excellant choice of parts. just make sure you start overclocking in small steps 1 by 1. if you have any problems or if you need more help, dont hesitate to email me at mikey@volleyball.com.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Be prepared to be upset... overclocking is never guaranteed.

IDK about being prepared to be upset, but yes overclocking is a crapshoot. Just raise the FSB to 200 gradually, testing for stability and as needed bump the voltage up (Vcore and Vdimm), the maximum I'd go is 1.85 Vcore, 2.8 Vdimm. Most people are getting 2.4GHz on the mobile Bartons, some hitting 2.6 and higher. Good luck.

 

[Sokratz]

3dgameman has a nice movie review

(part 1:http://www.3dgameman.com/vr/danger_den/h20_rbx_maze4/video_review.html part 2: http://www.3dgameman.com/vr/danger_den/h20_rbx_maze4/part2/video_review.html )

of the mb, cpu, and the wc kit. He doesn't mention whether or not his 2500 is a mobile though. He shows 25c idle/38c load at 2.3ghz. I'm thinking that he should try a little harder, but those temps sound promising.

Thanks for the advice Jeff and Mik3y. I've been known to try anything once, and I'll assuredly post my results.


Sokratz

 

[Jeff7181]

I say prepare to be upset because if you expect 2.6 Ghz, and the chip is only capable of 2.5, well... you're going to be upset... if you don't expect 2.6 Ghz, and you only get 2.5, well... 2.5 is still a helluva overclock =)

 

[Zebo]

For someone with only 2 posts you're a genious. I would'nt change anything.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Zebo
For someone with only 2 posts you're a genious. I would'nt change anything.

Postcount=! intelligence. I've found that out through experience.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Zebo
For someone with only 2 posts you're a genious. I would'nt change anything.

Haha, Sokratz=proof that research is as important as experience.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: Zebo
For someone with only 2 posts you're a genious. I would'nt change anything.

Postcount=! intelligence. I've found that out through experience.

That can be true, but definitely isn't always! I've answered questions for people with over 2,000 posts, that some newbies could have answered.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: Zebo
For someone with only 2 posts you're a genious. I would'nt change anything.

Postcount=! intelligence. I've found that out through experience.

That can be true, but definitely isn't always! I've answered questions for people with over 2,000 posts, that some newbies could have answered.

Yeah, (insert member name here) should be a repository of knowledge looking at his\her postcount, but (s)he posts some of the simplest questions. No offense to him\her though.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Zebo
For someone with only 2 posts you're a genious. I would'nt change anything.

Ok maybe I would

"Black Ice Extreme Rad,"
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The chevette heater core is the same size LxH, better flow rate, 2" think and only costs $19 at autozone.

 

[Sokratz]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Zebo
For someone with only 2 posts you're a genious. I would'nt change anything.

Hey Thanx.

 

[Sokratz]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Zebo
For someone with only 2 posts you're a genious. I would'nt change anything.

Ok maybe I would

"Black Ice Extreme Rad,"
-------------------------------
The chevette heater core is the same size LxH, better flow rate, 2" think and only costs $19 at autozone.

Ok. This feels like some tidbit of info outa left-field. Duly noted. For my first WC rig I felt more comfortable getting a kit. #2 will be all my own doing (xcept blocks). Can probably get a cheaper pond pump from ace hardware too.

 

[magratton]

Sokratz, I have a similar rig as you. Did the same thing, followed the AnandTech OC Guide. I actually did buy the Thermalright SLK-947U HSK, wish I went for the 80MM fan, but did the 92 instead. oh well. Essentially I have all of the same components you have. I have seen poeple post that the HSK doesn't fit on the NF7-S V2 mobo. You have to mod HSK a bit (1mm) to make it fit, but that was simple with my handy-dandy Dremel grinding bit.

What I am finding is my temps are high, even if I have the thing really locked down (100MHz *6@1.525v, which is the Abit default for Unknown CPU) when I start loading up Win XP to put a little load on the CPU i find that it is running at 38C.

So my real question is, what is making me have this high temp (socket registered I believe as this is what is reported in the Abit bios PC Heath Check menu)? I am using AS5 between the HSK and the CPU Core. Can too much paste be an issue, too little, uneven spread? I am at a bit of a loss on this. Any help would be appreciated.

BTW: I should say my room temp is 18-20C, it also doesnt really matter what I have the CPU at so far. I have not seen it go past about 42C even if I have it at 200X11.5@1.625v, it is generally always running at about 38-39C. Windows just got loaded last night, was going to do patches then start playing with CPUz and Prime95 to see where things go from there.

 

[Sokratz]

Originally posted by: magratton
Sokratz, I have a similar rig as you. Did the same thing, followed the AnandTech OC Guide. I actually did buy the Thermalright SLK-947U HSK, wish I went for the 80MM fan, but did the 92 instead. oh well. Essentially I have all of the same components you have. I have seen poeple post that the HSK doesn't fit on the NF7-S V2 mobo. You have to mod HSK a bit (1mm) to make it fit, but that was simple with my handy-dandy Dremel grinding bit.

What I am finding is my temps are high, even if I have the thing really locked down (100MHz *6@1.525v, which is the Abit default for Unknown CPU) when I start loading up Win XP to put a little load on the CPU i find that it is running at 38C.

So my real question is, what is making me have this high temp (socket registered I believe as this is what is reported in the Abit bios PC Heath Check menu)? I am using AS5 between the HSK and the CPU Core. Can too much paste be an issue, too little, uneven spread? I am at a bit of a loss on this. Any help would be appreciated.

BTW: I should say my room temp is 18-20C, it also doesnt really matter what I have the CPU at so far. I have not seen it go past about 42C even if I have it at 200X11.5@1.625v, it is generally always running at about 38-39C. Windows just got loaded last night, was going to do patches then start playing with CPUz and Prime95 to see where things go from there.

I'll not pretend to be some guru on OC'ing but some thoughts: Too much/little AS5 can indeed be a bad thing. Did you follow the instructions? How is the finish on the HSK? You could try picking up a lapping kit (or buying varying grades of wet/dry sandpaper 600-2000 from an autobody shop) to ensure you're getting a better connection. Also, how is your case airflow? You want intake and outake fans to suck out the hot air. Try running with an open case to see if it helps or not. Perhaps the other knowledgable folks here can give you more specifics.

Sokratz

 

[Jeff7181]

38C is not hot... it's barely warm (for a CPU anyway). Actually, if you're not reading the diode temp, then your temps are actually even higher.

While 38C is not hot, you should know that my Mobile XP2500 is running 2.4 ghz right now (218x11) on 1.66 volts (actual)... it's been crunching SETI@Home WU's for at least 18 hours now, the diode temp is reading 50 C, socket temp is reading 46, and my case temp is 21 (now that I've got my fans back up to full speed and not using the TruePower430's fan only connectors).

This is what your application of Arctic Silver should look like.