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my [new] college plan......

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thirtythree

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EDIT: By the way, my most recent question(s) are at the end of the thread...

FIRST YEAR

Psych 3000: Statistical Methods in Psychology [online] (4)
Psych 3320: Survey of Clinical Psychology (3)
- Psych 3904: Service Learning (1)
Soc 1010: Introduction to Sociology (3)
Ugs 3690: Gender and Contemporary Issues (3)
Ed Ps 2622: The Art of Wellness (1)
TOTAL: 15

Psych 3010: Research Methods in Psychology [online] (4)
Psych 3400: Psychology of Abnormal Behavior (3)
- Psych 3900: Modes of Learning: Research Methods (1)
Art 1010: Intro to Visual Arts [online] (3) OR Music 1236: Survey of Jazz (3)
Soc 3020: Social Psychology (3)
TOTAL: 14

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SECOND YEAR

Psych 3210 Development in Infancy and Childhood (3)
- Psych 3902: Psychology in Everyday Life (1)
Psych 3440: Personality Theories (3)
Psych 4080: History and Theories of Psychology (3)
Psych 4804: Research Experience: Clinical (2)
Phil 3440: Cognitive Science (3)
TOTAL: 15

Psych 3220: Childhood and Adolescent Development (3)
Psych 3230: Adult Development and Dying (3)
Psych 3711: Brain and Behavior (4)
Psych 4804: Research Experience: Clinical (2)
Psych 4810: Field Experience (2)
TOTAL: 14

GRADUATE SCHOOLGENERAL REQUIREMENTS

Intellectual Explorations
- Fine Arts (2): AP Art History, Art 1790
- Humanities (2): AP European History, Ugs 3690
- Physical and Life Science (2): AP Biology, AP Chemistry
- Social Science (2): AP Psychology, Psych 3210
Writing: AP English
American Institutions: AP American History
Quantitative Reasoning
- QA: AP Calculus
- QB: AP Calculus, AP Statistics
Quantitative Intensive (2): Psych 3000, Psych 3010
Diversity: Ugs 3690
Communication/Writing: Psych 3010
Total Semester Hours (122): 55 + 72 AP = 127
Upper Division Credit Hours (40): 44 + 4 AP (?) = 48

MAJOR REQUIREMENTS

Psych 1010: AP Psychology
Psych 3000, 3010
Core Areas (4): All 5
Modes of Learning (2)
Total Psychology Credits (38): 35 + 4 AP (?) = 39
Allied Work (13, 6 Upper Division)
 
Originally posted by: hdeck
you want to graduate college in two years? wtf😕
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It can be done, but it will be hell. My friend graduated from Virginia Tech with B.A. in Computer Engineering in 2 years. He took 8 classes each semester and graduate in 6 semesters. Crazy shiznit.
 
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: hdeck
you want to graduate college in two years? wtf😕
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It can be done, but it will be hell. My friend graduated from Virginia Tech with B.A. in Computer Engineering in 2 years. He took 8 classes each semester and graduate in 6 semesters. Crazy shiznit.
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of course it could be done in two years. but why the hell would anyone want to put themselves through that?
 
Originally posted by: hdeck
you want to graduate college in two years? wtf😕
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yes.
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Wow, so many classes based on introspection. You don't have personal issues, do you?
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there's only one class based on introspection, because I needed one extra credit. as for the others, what did you expect for a psychology major?
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: hdeck
you want to graduate college in two years? wtf😕
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It can be done, but it will be hell. My friend graduated from Virginia Tech with B.A. in Computer Engineering in 2 years. He took 8 classes each semester and graduate in 6 semesters. Crazy shiznit.
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I'm only taking 12-15 credits per semester. I figure that'll leave me some slack in case something goes wrong.
 
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: hdeck
you want to graduate college in two years? wtf😕
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It can be done, but it will be hell. My friend graduated from Virginia Tech with B.A. in Computer Engineering in 2 years. He took 8 classes each semester and graduate in 6 semesters. Crazy shiznit.
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of course it could be done in two years. but why the hell would anyone want to put themselves through that?
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enjoy college life! after that its all downhill...
 
Stop planning your life and start living it. What're you going to do when you finish college in two years and grad school?

It really bugs me that those who say they love learning the most try so damn hard to get out of school. What are you trying to prove to the world?
 
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: hdeck
you want to graduate college in two years? wtf😕
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yes.
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wow, whatever man. good luck with that. maybe a few bad grades will change your mind on that and help you realize you need to enjoy your last years of no real responsibility.
 
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: hdeck
you want to graduate college in two years? wtf😕
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It can be done, but it will be hell. My friend graduated from Virginia Tech with B.A. in Computer Engineering in 2 years. He took 8 classes each semester and graduate in 6 semesters. Crazy shiznit.
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of course it could be done in two years. but why the hell would anyone want to put themselves through that?
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enjoy college life! after that its all downhill...
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7 years is enough for me.
Originally posted by: jumpr
Stop planning your life and start living it. What're you going to do when you finish college in two years and grad school?

It really bugs me that those who say they love learning the most try so damn hard to get out of school. What are you trying to prove to the world?
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most people get jobs after grad school. hopefully I'll get married as well, if not sooner.

as for your other comment, the reason I want to finish is because I'd rather be doing something productive than wasting away in pointless classes. plus college costs money, y'know?
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: hdeck
you want to graduate college in two years? wtf😕
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yes.
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wow, whatever man. good luck with that. maybe a few bad grades will change your mind on that and help you realize you need to enjoy your last years of no real responsibility.
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huh?
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
You know what they say about the best-laid plans!

These are the best years of your life. Don't rush them.
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...what do they say? and I'm not really rushing.
 
Originally posted by: dighn
under 30 credits a year isn't so bad...
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hey, thanks.
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: thirtythree
most people get jobs after grad school.
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Not if they study psychology! Then it's on to PhD programs.
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in psychology, you can go straight from getting your bachelor's to a 5 year phd program (I believe you get your master's along the way). that's what I'm doing.

edit: thanks, gtaudiophile. good to know.
 
but he's really not trying all that hard.. going in with 72 hours, he'd be hard pressed to take much longer and still maintain full-time student status.. with all those AP's he's bound to have scholarships that require he take a minimum of 12 hours/semester.

hopefully he's really interested in psychology because there's not a great lot else in that schedule, but he's really not looking at a very heavy load.. would it be better to waste the time and money taking things he didn't want or need, just to avoid graduating?

good luck, thirtythree. don't forget to have some fun along the way.

anno
 
How many credits are required for graduation? They must do things differently there, because an "average" semester here is 15 credits and we need 125 credits for a bachelor's. I have 67 credits after two years, so I only need 58 over the last two. 😀

Edit: Didn't see those AP hours...you must have racked up a sh!tload of 'em! :Q
 
Um, how the fvck do you graduate in 2 years with ~60 credits? I need 132 credits for my CS degree, which is taking 32 credits/year for four years.
 
Originally posted by: anno
but he's really not trying all that hard.. going in with 72 hours, he'd be hard pressed to take much longer and still maintain full-time student status.. with all those AP's he's bound to have scholarships that require he take a minimum of 12 hours/semester.

hopefully he's really interested in psychology because there's not a great lot else in that schedule, but he's really not looking at a very heavy load.. would it be better to waste the time and money taking things he didn't want or need, just to avoid graduating?

good luck, thirtythree. don't forget to have some fun along the way.

anno
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I do have to take a minimum of 12 hours to keep my scholarship. I've been decided on clinical psychology for over a year, been to a shrink myself (heh), taken ap psychology, and read several psychology books, so I hope I'm really interested in it too. thanks for the luck. I'll try to have some fun 😉
Originally posted by: apac
Um, how the fvck do you graduate in 2 years with ~60 credits? I need 132 credits for my CS degree, which is taking 32 credits/year for four years.
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Total Semester Hours (122): 55 + 72 AP = 127
Originally posted by: RaiseUp
Thanks for your life story/
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you're welcome?
 
Just so you know, if you want to attend graduate school in psychology, you need to do a lot more than classroom work. This would include research experience, and teaching experience as well, for at least a total of one year. Anything less and your chances of entering a decent graduate program are not good, even if you get all A's, they don't care. Research experience is the single most important factor.
 
Originally posted by: vegetation
Just so you know, if you want to attend graduate school in psychology, you need to do a lot more than classroom work. This would include research experience, and teaching experience as well, for at least a total of one year. Anything less and your chances of entering a decent graduate program are not good, even if you get all A's, they don't care. Research experience is the single most important factor.
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I'm hoping to do some on the side, but if that's not possible, I can always arrange my schedule a bit (I don't NEED to take all the psych classes listed there). I'm setting up an appointment with an academic advisor to discuss it. the university I'm attending has several phd programs in psychology, so I'd imagine they know what sort of stuff is important. also, it seems like research experience may not be as important for someone who doesn't plan on going into research.

and my dad works at the university. he's going to ask a friend of his in psychology if there's an internship available for this summer (or maybe longer... though I doubt I'm who they'd be looking for anyway).

whatever the case, I think I'll be okay. either that or I'll learn the hard way.
 
I'm hoping to do some on the side, but if that's not possible, I can always arrange my schedule a bit (I don't NEED to take all the psych classes listed there). I'm setting up an appointment with an academic advisor to discuss it. the university I'm attending has several phd programs in psychology, so I'd imagine they know what sort of stuff is important. also, it seems like research experience may not be as important for someone who doesn't plan on doing research.
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Research experience IS VERY important in any Ph.D psychology program. Especially so for clinical psychology. Now if you're interested in a Psy.D then maybe that's not the case, but avoid that degree unless you are totally in a desperate situation. Ph.D is a research degree, the graduate classes you take are minimal. ALL your letters of rec for grad school must come in from psychology or related profs, otherwise, it's toilet paper. And if all your prof knows about you is getting good exam scores, that's not going to help at all. You need to get in there and help do research. I would suggest committing to research in an area you are interested in (clinical for example) for one year (two semeters), then going to a different prof in a completely different area (social for example) for a semester, and top it off by doing a teaching psy lab stint for a semester. That will make you a shoe-in for graduate school, even if your grades slip.

You must remember that psychology is a very popular undergraduate degree. To go to graduate school in psy you have to distinguish yourself over other applicants, and this means doing more than just taking classes.
 
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: vegetation
Just so you know, if you want to attend graduate school in psychology, you need to do a lot more than classroom work. This would include research experience, and teaching experience as well, for at least a total of one year. Anything less and your chances of entering a decent graduate program are not good, even if you get all A's, they don't care. Research experience is the single most important factor.
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I'm hoping to do some on the side, but if that's not possible, I can always arrange my schedule a bit (I don't NEED to take all the psych classes listed there). I'm setting up an appointment with an academic advisor to discuss it. the university I'm attending has several phd programs in psychology, so I'd imagine they know what sort of stuff is important. also, it seems like research experience may not be as important for someone who doesn't plan on going into research.

and my dad works at the university. he's going to ask a friend of his in psychology if there's an internship available for this summer (or maybe longer... though I doubt I'm who they'd be looking for anyway).

whatever the case, I think I'll be okay. either that or I'll learn the hard way.
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Please, PLEASE don't ever say you aren't interested in doing research to a clinical admissions committee. If you do, I can guarantee you won't ever make it past an interview. Ph.D programs want students that will be at least as equally committed (if not moreso) to research as they are to practice. If you truly don't want to do any sort of research, then I'd really recommend you look into getting a Psy.D. There are no assistanceships, and since you aren't doing research, you won't be getting paid...but you do more hands-on-type work as a trade-off.

And yes, research experience is VERY important to getting into a clinical psych Ph.D program. Look at it this way: Clinical Psych programs are (indirectly) as competitive as medical school. Acceptance rates at first- and second-tier schools range from 5-10%, as the usual incoming class size hovers around 7 or so. They need some way of differentiating between all of those psych undergrads with 3.7+ GPAs and 1300+ GREs.

I applaud your interest in psychology, and in clinical psych in particular (it's the field to which I'll be applying next year, after working for a year with the state to build up my resume/application). However, I just want you to know what you're getting into, and to realize just how tough some of these programs can be. I don't doubt that you have an idea, but your statement about research shows that you might not necessarily have done a great deal of looking into the actual admissions process quite yet.

Here are a few recommendations: take your GREs at least one semester before you plan on applying. If you don't break 1300, then you have one of two options-- retake, or just don't plan on attending a first-tier school. It's possible that you'll get accepted, but the odds aren't in your favor.

Also, begin researching schools that you'd like to attend ahead of time. Look for professors that have research interests similar to your own, and contact them. Read some of their publications so that you have something other than admissions to talk about. A BIG part of being granted acceptance is the school's opinion of how well your research interests match those of the professors you've listed as possible sponsors.

On a related note, start thinking early of what exactly you want to research for your Ph.D. As I stated earlier, research is a HUGE part of getting your Ph.D. Between your lab work and your dissertation, you'll be doing a lot of it. It's great if you want to "study serious mental illness," but you need to be more specific than that. Are you interested in the effects of psychotropic drugs on shizophrenia in the elderly population? Or maybe the validity of using ECT on adolescents displaying symptoms of depression. You don't have to know EXACTLY what you want to do, but you should be able to narrow it down somewhat, and be able to back your interests up by showing that you've done some prelim. work or research in that field, and know that it will hold your attention for at least five years.

Apply to a LOT of schools. 10-12 wouldn't be out of the question, though I'd recommend at LEAST 6-8.

Once accepted, kiss most of your life goodbye for the next 5 years. Psychology graduate courseloads make up for the relatively unchallenging nature of obtaining a psych BS. You're right in that you'll get your master's along the way; that means you take your master's comps after the first year and a half/two years, then do more research while working on your dissertation, and either work your internship for a year and then return to defend your dissertation, or vice-versa.

Psychology can be a VERY rewarding field, but make sure it's what you want to do. You can do much of what a clinical psychologist does by obtaining a degree in counseling psychology, and the programs are easier to get into (master's as opposed to Ph.D). The main difference is that a clinical psych program goes into more depth as far as the theories and such behind the treatments (and of course, you'll do a lot more research). Look around, make sure it's what you really want...and if it is, then go for it. And good luck.
 
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