My neighbor almost killed everyone in our apartment last night

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So last night at 4:30 AM I get woken up by this weird banging sound coming from our basement. I go use the bathroom and notice that a smoky smell is coming through the vent that leads to the cellar. I figure something must be wrong with the furnace, so I go to the cellar door, and after checking to make sure the doorknob wasn?t hot, I open the door. The horror?The horror. I am immediately inundated in smoke. Not like ?hey it?s a bit hazy in here??.there?s smoke billowing up out of the cellar into my kitchen now. My first thought was to grab my roommate and get out before the whole place goes up. Then I realize there?s people on the 2nd and 3rd floor and they may not get out in time. I edge down the stairs and when I get to the basement the smoke is worse. I walk towards the furnace and realize the sound is coming from behind it?from the washing machine.

Now I?m thinking ?wtf?? Did someone put cement or a brick in this thing??? So I walk over and gingerly open the lid?..there is so much laundry in it that it?s actually piling up out of the machine. Picture 4 super sized loads, and that?s what was in this normal sized machine. The smoke was from the motor on the machine burning out. We JUST got these fucking things installed a few weeks ago. To their credit I figured it would be 5 days before the morons that live above us ruined it for everyone. Then I notice that the gas line that connects to the dryer runs directly above the washer. If that motor had started a small fire?..kaboom. So I pull the plug on the washer and go back up to my room. I?ve only been in bed about 3 minutes when I hear someone go down the stairs into the cellar. I throw my shoes on and go down there intent on reaming out the jackass that could?ve potentially gotten us all killed.

So I get down there and there?s some glassy eyed girl I?ve never seen standing there in a filthy dress and shirt saying ?oh shiiiiiiit? in a complete monotone. She apparently just moved in?and if I had to guess I?d say she was mentally challenged, or stone. We have this exchange:


Me: ?Pro tip: Next time you have to elbow drop your laundry to cram it into the washing machine?split it into 2 loads. Or in this case 4. That smoke is from the fucking motor on the machine burning out. Best case scenario it would?ve just killed the machine. Worst case it would catch itself on fire, or one of the piles of dust and lint, and ignite the gas line that?s going right above the machine and kill all of us.

Girl: ?oooooh shiiiiiiiiiit?..I thought I smelled smoke on the 3rd floor??woooooow the machine wasn?t even that fuuuuull?look it didn?t even finish the spin cycle?.what should I do??

Me: ?I?ve never seen that much laundry in a machine before. Split it into several loads and put it through the drier. You probably broke the washing machine. Why are you even doing laundry at 5 in the morning????

Girl: ?It?s 5 in the morning??? My alarm usually goes off at 8?

Me: ?So you?re alarm woke you up and you thought it was 8? Didn?t you notice it was dark out??

Girl: ?Alarm? What alarm??

This girl was high as a fucking kite. So anyway I leave the cellar as she?s cramming her shit into the dryer. I get up the next morning and I can hear the dryer going still. I think to myself ?No fucking way that has been going for the last 4 hours.? I have some of my own laundry to do and I want to see if the washing machine is still a fire hazard, or works ok. So I go down there and the girl is by the dryer, looking completely bat-shit stoned still. She?s trying to pull her laundry out of the dryer, but there?s so much she can?t get it out. She didn?t separate it into several loads apparently. Plus it looks like she?s tying several towels into a knot and wrapping a shoe string around them. Imagine if an octopus got a Charlie horse in all 8 legs?.it kind of looked like that. I?m slack jawed at this point, I have no idea what she?s doing. She starts bitching at me and says ?don?t look at me while I?m doing this!!!!? and keeps struggling with her knots of laundry.

I mean seriously, my roommates and I knew the people upstairs weren?t too bright?they throw full bags of garbage off their porch into the backyard?.break glass bottles all over the sidewalk?randomly bash their fusebox in the cellar for some reason?and occasionally completely trash their apartment. But this takes the cake. I like having a washing machine in the apartment?.but if it?s going to be turned into an incendiary device I?d prefer the landlord just move it out. Do you think I should tell him about this?






Cliffs:
1. Apartment filling up with smoke at 4:30 AM.
2. Idiot neighbor put ungodly amount of laundry in washer.
3. Motor started to burn out & smoke.
4. Gas lines directly above washer.
5. Neighbor is high as a kite and has no clue what time of day it is.
6. Gives me attitude next morning




update!: I called the landlord up, and told him the brief version: stoned girl doing laundry at 4:30 in the morning, basement filling with smoke, almost lighting cellar on fire. He didn't sound happy about it, said something to the extent of "Oh....that's REALY nice..." I asked if we could get some smoke detectors and an extinguisher, he's bringing them over. more to come..



ANOTHER UPDATE Landlord came by today. He was PISSED at the people on the 2nd floor. There's one decent girl up there, and I heard him yelling at her. He was saying he can never get in touch with anyone up there, they've had all summer to pay back past rent...they're late for October....he's had complaints from everyone around us, etc. He sees me on my way out and we talk for awhile. He asks who's furniture is on the porch (there's rotting couches and shit) I tell them it's all from the 2nd floor. He asks about the piles of cigarettes on the porch, again, theirs. He then tells me "you know, I don't know why I let that group come back. I had a completely different group of nice people ready to move in. Biggest mistake of my life letting that group come back.
 

pontifex

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so much idiocy in this thread, some of it even coming from you...were you high too?
 

Jeff7

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Damn.....no advice here, but....damn. Eviction time?


But why did you leave her alone with the gas-heated dryer then?

 

DomS

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Damn.....no advice here, but....damn. Eviction time?


But why did you leave her alone with the gas-heated dryer then?

So that's a vote for telling the house's owner....
 

Eeezee

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Those are some epic neighbors. When does your lease end? I'd move the fuck out of that place and inform the landlord as to why.
 

Rubycon

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I would raise suspicion as to why there was so much smoke. The washer motor should be thermally protected. Power should have been cut LONG before its windings reached a temperature to char the varnish.
 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
I would raise suspicion as to why there was so much smoke. The washer motor should be thermally protected. Power should have been cut LONG before its windings reached a temperature to char the varnish.

Maybe it was burning the belt up.
 

MrDudeMan

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You would have to be just as stupid as they are to not tell the landlord. If I owned real estate and someone that stupid moved into one of my units, I'd find a way to break their lease or just pay them to move out. It would probably save me money in the long run.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Rubycon
I would raise suspicion as to why there was so much smoke. The washer motor should be thermally protected. Power should have been cut LONG before its windings reached a temperature to char the varnish.

Maybe it was burning the belt up.
Or a few joints stashed in the pockets while lit. ;)

 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Rubycon
I would raise suspicion as to why there was so much smoke. The washer motor should be thermally protected. Power should have been cut LONG before its windings reached a temperature to char the varnish.

Maybe it was burning the belt up.

Ok at this point it's grasping straws...

Modern washers should not have belts IIRC. Even older ones used a transmission. Driers have belts though.

Knocking noises loud enough to be heard a considerable distance means the drum was still turning so the slip (given the unlikely chance there would be a belt) would not be sufficient to smoke profusely. A high enough load for slipping would definitely put the motor well over FLA bringing thermal protection into play. Modern systems actually monitor the current with a ECU (microprocessor controller) and will trip off in such a condition. The thermal protection "fuse" is buried deep in the motor's stator winding. (tradename: microtemp).

EDIT:

Almost forgot (stupid casino announcement!) :|

An extremely unbalanced drum WILL trip the out of balance sensor. This washer sounds like Homer Simpson designed (or worked on!) it. :laugh:
 

TecHNooB

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Rubycon
I would raise suspicion as to why there was so much smoke. The washer motor should be thermally protected. Power should have been cut LONG before its windings reached a temperature to char the varnish.

Maybe it was burning the belt up.

Ok at this point it's grasping straws...

Modern washers should not have belts IIRC. Even older ones used a transmission. Driers have belts though.

Knocking noises loud enough to be heard a considerable distance means the drum was still turning so the slip (given the unlikely chance there would be a belt) would not be sufficient to smoke profusely. A high enough load for slipping would definitely put the motor well over FLA bringing thermal protection into play. Modern systems actually monitor the current with a ECU (microprocessor controller) and will trip off in such a condition. The thermal protection "fuse" is buried deep in the motor's stator winding. (tradename: microtemp).

EDIT:

Almost forgot (stupid casino announcement!) :|

An extremely unbalanced drum WILL trip the out of balance sensor. This washer sounds like Homer Simpson designed (or worked on!) it. :laugh:

What do you do for a living? R & D? I vaguely remember something about a cruise ship but it just doesn't make sense!

 

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Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Rubycon
I would raise suspicion as to why there was so much smoke. The washer motor should be thermally protected. Power should have been cut LONG before its windings reached a temperature to char the varnish.

Maybe it was burning the belt up.

Ok at this point it's grasping straws...

Modern washers should not have belts IIRC. Even older ones used a transmission. Driers have belts though.

Knocking noises loud enough to be heard a considerable distance means the drum was still turning so the slip (given the unlikely chance there would be a belt) would not be sufficient to smoke profusely. A high enough load for slipping would definitely put the motor well over FLA bringing thermal protection into play. Modern systems actually monitor the current with a ECU (microprocessor controller) and will trip off in such a condition. The thermal protection "fuse" is buried deep in the motor's stator winding. (tradename: microtemp).

EDIT:

Almost forgot (stupid casino announcement!) :|

An extremely unbalanced drum WILL trip the out of balance sensor. This washer sounds like Homer Simpson designed (or worked on!) it. :laugh:

What do you do for a living? R & D? I vaguely remember something about a cruise ship but it just doesn't make sense!

Rubycon knows everything about everything. Just accept it and move on. It'll make your life much easier.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: Dirigible
Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Originally posted by: Rubycon
-snip- _ a bunch of highly technical appliance engineering info_

EDIT:

Almost forgot (stupid casino announcement!) :|

An extremely unbalanced drum WILL trip the out of balance sensor. This washer sounds like Homer Simpson designed (or worked on!) it. :laugh:

What do you do for a living? R & D? I vaguely remember something about a cruise ship but it just doesn't make sense!

Rubycon knows everything about everything. Just accept it and move on. It'll make your life much easier.
You know that G4 commercial, where they talk about an LED suited Digital Goddess ... blah blah blah... Well they modeled it off of her.... at least I think they do....:D

 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
I would raise suspicion as to why there was so much smoke. The washer motor should be thermally protected. Power should have been cut LONG before its windings reached a temperature to char the varnish.

One of three fires that I experienced at one complex was from the dryer. The fire department showed up and made a big show pulling the dryer out from the laundry room and bashing it open, spilling some poor gal's laundry all over the parking lot. I don't know what was burning but something sure as hell was putting out smoke. It was a modern dryer.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: Born2bwire

One of three fires that I experienced at one complex was from the dryer. The fire department showed up and made a big show pulling the dryer out from the laundry room and bashing it open, spilling some poor gal's laundry all over the parking lot. I don't know what was burning but something sure as hell was putting out smoke. It was a modern dryer.

The OP was discussing washers not dryers. I'm willing to bet dryers start far more fires than washers -

They're not filled with water for more than half a cycle and the contents are very wet when finished!

Dryers on the other hand have a 40,000 btu/h source (natural gas) or 5.5kW heating element and are often in poor maintenance beginning with the lint filter. There are safeguards in place namely snap disk switches but poor maintenance of the exhaust lines is a sure way to have a fire break out in short order.