My natural gas bill

[Rudee]

103.00 = Current bill. $131.00 = What you have to pay now. Looks like about a 31% increase to me.

 

[RU482]

in case someone hasn;t mentioned it...stop looking at the dollar amounts and look at the units of gas used, then do your math

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: huberm
I have all electric in my home, and i live in Indiana. I have 2 electric furnaces and 2 heat pumps. I like the heat pumps really well, and so far my electric bill has only been averaging about $55/month.

Since it has started getting colder here in Indiana, the heat pump stays on pretty much all the time. If you were to stand on the register, you wouldn't feel a burst of warm air. Hell, it doesn't even really feel warm. I talked to the heating/air guy when he came to do the seasonal servicing, and he said this is typical of heat pumps, and I should see a significant savings compared to using gas furnace.

So how does that work? Is the electric furnace similar to a gas furnace?

A heat pump is like an air conditioner, but runs in reverse. The electric furnance are just coils heated by electricity, and a are far less effecient than a heat pump. The electric furnace can quicly bring up the temp of the house, where a heat pump will raise the temp slowly.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: huberm
I have all electric in my home, and i live in Indiana. I have 2 electric furnaces and 2 heat pumps. I like the heat pumps really well, and so far my electric bill has only been averaging about $55/month.

Since it has started getting colder here in Indiana, the heat pump stays on pretty much all the time. If you were to stand on the register, you wouldn't feel a burst of warm air. Hell, it doesn't even really feel warm. I talked to the heating/air guy when he came to do the seasonal servicing, and he said this is typical of heat pumps, and I should see a significant savings compared to using gas furnace.

So how does that work? Is the electric furnace similar to a gas furnace?

A heat pump is like an air conditioner, but runs in reverse. The electric furnance are just coils heated by electricity, and a are far less effecient than a heat pump. The electric furnace can quicly bring up the temp of the house, where a heat pump will raise the temp slowly.

So in his setup, the heat pump would be used to maintain the temperature and the electric furnace would raise the temperature?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: huberm
I have all electric in my home, and i live in Indiana. I have 2 electric furnaces and 2 heat pumps. I like the heat pumps really well, and so far my electric bill has only been averaging about $55/month.

Since it has started getting colder here in Indiana, the heat pump stays on pretty much all the time. If you were to stand on the register, you wouldn't feel a burst of warm air. Hell, it doesn't even really feel warm. I talked to the heating/air guy when he came to do the seasonal servicing, and he said this is typical of heat pumps, and I should see a significant savings compared to using gas furnace.

So how does that work? Is the electric furnace similar to a gas furnace?

A heat pump is like an air conditioner, but runs in reverse. The electric furnance are just coils heated by electricity, and a are far less effecient than a heat pump. The electric furnace can quicly bring up the temp of the house, where a heat pump will raise the temp slowly.

So in his setup, the heat pump would be used to maintain the temperature and the electric furnace would raise the temperature?

The electric heat is mainly a backup system. You only use it the heat pump is out or you need to raise the tempature quickly.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: huberm
I have all electric in my home, and i live in Indiana. I have 2 electric furnaces and 2 heat pumps. I like the heat pumps really well, and so far my electric bill has only been averaging about $55/month.

Since it has started getting colder here in Indiana, the heat pump stays on pretty much all the time. If you were to stand on the register, you wouldn't feel a burst of warm air. Hell, it doesn't even really feel warm. I talked to the heating/air guy when he came to do the seasonal servicing, and he said this is typical of heat pumps, and I should see a significant savings compared to using gas furnace.

So how does that work? Is the electric furnace similar to a gas furnace?

A heat pump is like an air conditioner, but runs in reverse. The electric furnance are just coils heated by electricity, and a are far less effecient than a heat pump. The electric furnace can quicly bring up the temp of the house, where a heat pump will raise the temp slowly.

So in his setup, the heat pump would be used to maintain the temperature and the electric furnace would raise the temperature?

The electric heat is mainly a backup system. You only use it the heat pump is out or you need to raise the tempature quickly.

Makes sense, thanks. Would you think such a setup would be effective, say as far north as the Chicago area?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: huberm
I have all electric in my home, and i live in Indiana. I have 2 electric furnaces and 2 heat pumps. I like the heat pumps really well, and so far my electric bill has only been averaging about $55/month.

Since it has started getting colder here in Indiana, the heat pump stays on pretty much all the time. If you were to stand on the register, you wouldn't feel a burst of warm air. Hell, it doesn't even really feel warm. I talked to the heating/air guy when he came to do the seasonal servicing, and he said this is typical of heat pumps, and I should see a significant savings compared to using gas furnace.

So how does that work? Is the electric furnace similar to a gas furnace?

A heat pump is like an air conditioner, but runs in reverse. The electric furnance are just coils heated by electricity, and a are far less effecient than a heat pump. The electric furnace can quicly bring up the temp of the house, where a heat pump will raise the temp slowly.

So in his setup, the heat pump would be used to maintain the temperature and the electric furnace would raise the temperature?

The electric heat is mainly a backup system. You only use it the heat pump is out or you need to raise the tempature quickly.

Makes sense, thanks. Would you think such a setup would be effective, say as far north as the Chicago area?

You would need to check with a hvac person on that. It would probably need to be a high seer system for it work that far north.

 

[bonkers325]

my apartment is heated with electric baseboard. ~$80/month to heat the apartment to comfortable levels

 

[cliftonite]

Last year our natural gas bill during the winter months was around $300

 

[SilentZero]

Our bill went up 79% thus far.

 

[huberm]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: huberm
I have all electric in my home, and i live in Indiana. I have 2 electric furnaces and 2 heat pumps. I like the heat pumps really well, and so far my electric bill has only been averaging about $55/month.

Since it has started getting colder here in Indiana, the heat pump stays on pretty much all the time. If you were to stand on the register, you wouldn't feel a burst of warm air. Hell, it doesn't even really feel warm. I talked to the heating/air guy when he came to do the seasonal servicing, and he said this is typical of heat pumps, and I should see a significant savings compared to using gas furnace.

So how does that work? Is the electric furnace similar to a gas furnace?

A heat pump is like an air conditioner, but runs in reverse. The electric furnance are just coils heated by electricity, and a are far less effecient than a heat pump. The electric furnace can quicly bring up the temp of the house, where a heat pump will raise the temp slowly.

So in his setup, the heat pump would be used to maintain the temperature and the electric furnace would raise the temperature?

The electric heat is mainly a backup system. You only use it the heat pump is out or you need to raise the tempature quickly.

Makes sense, thanks. Would you think such a setup would be effective, say as far north as the Chicago area?

The heat pump has a sensor on it that switches to the electric furnace later in the winter if it gets too cold for it to become efficient. You can also temporarily use the electric furnace if you want to bring the heat up quickly (ie you went somewhere and turned the heat down before you left).

I live in west central Indiana, I would think the climate would be pretty similiar to the chicago area?

 

[PurdueRy]

You suck at math

 

[Shame]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
You suck at math

Heh. Blame Purdue.

I read the letter I received as indicating a 28 to 38% increase over last years rates, not as another 28 to 38% increase since July's nearly 100% increase!

Ed: BTW: Purdue 27 - IU 7

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: Shame

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
You suck at math

Heh. Blame Purdue.

I read the letter I received as indicating a 28 to 38% increase over last years rates, not as another 28 to 38% increase since July's nearly 100% increase!

Ed: BTW: Purdue 27 - IU 7

YAY! Some good news to end the year ....

I see that any uncrease us annoying...but $6 more a month isn't too awful. I think it looks better when you look at it that way

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: huberm

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: huberm
I have all electric in my home, and i live in Indiana. I have 2 electric furnaces and 2 heat pumps. I like the heat pumps really well, and so far my electric bill has only been averaging about $55/month.

Since it has started getting colder here in Indiana, the heat pump stays on pretty much all the time. If you were to stand on the register, you wouldn't feel a burst of warm air. Hell, it doesn't even really feel warm. I talked to the heating/air guy when he came to do the seasonal servicing, and he said this is typical of heat pumps, and I should see a significant savings compared to using gas furnace.

So how does that work? Is the electric furnace similar to a gas furnace?

A heat pump is like an air conditioner, but runs in reverse. The electric furnance are just coils heated by electricity, and a are far less effecient than a heat pump. The electric furnace can quicly bring up the temp of the house, where a heat pump will raise the temp slowly.

So in his setup, the heat pump would be used to maintain the temperature and the electric furnace would raise the temperature?

The electric heat is mainly a backup system. You only use it the heat pump is out or you need to raise the tempature quickly.

Makes sense, thanks. Would you think such a setup would be effective, say as far north as the Chicago area?

The heat pump has a sensor on it that switches to the electric furnace later in the winter if it gets too cold for it to become efficient. You can also temporarily use the electric furnace if you want to bring the heat up quickly (ie you went somewhere and turned the heat down before you left).

I live in west central Indiana, I would think the climate would be pretty similiar to the chicago area?

I actually live in central Illinois about 100 miles south of Chicago, so our climates would be very similar. This is good stuff to know. I'd love to be able to ditch gas in my next house, given the rising costs.

 

[whoiswes]

Originally posted by: charrison
That depends I think. Electric heat is quite expensive. A heatpump is much more effecient than that, however still not anywhere near natural gas. I have been hearing that a heat pump+natural gas back up(for the real cold days) can bring your bills down.

QFT - that is our plan for when we replace our furnace/AC/air handler (it's almost 20 years old now, and is very inefficient).

i'd love to install geothermal, but i'm not sure the ground is well suited where we live, and we're not going to be here long enough to realize the benefits...

 

[huberm]

Originally posted by: whoiswes

Originally posted by: charrison
That depends I think. Electric heat is quite expensive. A heatpump is much more effecient than that, however still not anywhere near natural gas. I have been hearing that a heat pump+natural gas back up(for the real cold days) can bring your bills down.

QFT - that is our plan for when we replace our furnace/AC/air handler (it's almost 20 years old now, and is very inefficient).

i'd love to install geothermal, but i'm not sure the ground is well suited where we live, and we're not going to be here long enough to realize the benefits...

Theres a temp guy out at work that just recently left the heating/cooling industry. I was talking to him about heat pumps, etc. and he mentioned that they are currently developing a new technology that will blow away all heating and cooling solutions. It is based off of sound waves, somehow similiar to a microwave oven, and it will pull even less current than heat pumps.

 

[jadinolf]

December's bill just came today

19 therms = $20.79

 

[Zee]

the one i just paid in december was 379. damn

 

[kyparrish]

Just paid our $237 bill today for a ~1800sq. foot house

 

[EatSpam]

$70 for our 1400 sq ft condo... gas furnace... so far, so good... no major price increases. **Knocks on wood**

 

[BurnItDwn]

I've paid between $100 and $120 in November and December for the NG to heat my 1000 sqfoot townhome (2 walls are shared.)
It was built in the 70s, and I know the insulation isn't the "best" but the gas bills are about 40% worse then last year.
I do remember, that December of 2005 was MUCH colder then December of 2004, so my December bill was a LOT more then December of 2004.... (almost a 100% difference, as in 2004 my bill was about $60 for December)