My Natchez, Mississippi story

BoomerD · Aug 15, 2010

What? No one's asked yet?

OP, did ya get any of that dark meat?

Where are the pics?

PhineasJWhoopee · Aug 15, 2010

Balt said:
I lived in Natchez for many years. Did you visit any of the local restaurants?

It's funny that I don't recall where I ate because I'm a foodie. It was a few years ago.

I'm thinking about going back next year. Any advice on where to eat?

I have another funny story (at least to me) about this place.

http://www.underthehillsaloon.com/custom/webpage.cfm?content=content&id=2

Perknose · Aug 15, 2010

Great story, OP, thanks for sharing. You are a man after my own heart, traveling not like a superficial asshole tourist but more like an anthropologist, getting right down into the nitty-gritty of a local culture, into the unmitigated warp and woof of their life.

As for the fucktards who felt the need to snipe at you, we shall know them by their tiny-dick attitudes.

PhineasJWhoopee · Aug 15, 2010

ADDAvenger said:
Telling someone about a "black guy in the restaurant that just wouldn't shut up" isn't acceptable because them being black has nothing to do with the situation. It doesn't really add any details that you couldn't otherwise infer.

Telling someone about a "big party, it was in Mississippi and I was the only white guy there" is acceptable because it is descriptive. You would expect such a party to be notably different than something similar but full of white people.

tl;dr - Mostly black events have a different flavor, especially in the south, so saying they were black is useful information. An asshole is an asshole regardless of their color, so that's not really useful information. Learn the difference.

Oh and to be honest, when I read the title I expected something a little more like this.

True words. There was a white photographer at the event. We were chatting and he told me that I came to the right place. He said that at white Mardis Gras parties, people generally get falling down drunk and act stupid.

nb. I don't know if this is true or not, as I've never been to a white Mardis Gradis party. Just passing along infrmation that was shared with me.

PhineasJWhoopee · Aug 15, 2010

PhineasJWhoopee · Aug 15, 2010

JulesMaximus said:
It impoverishes it...no question about it. Everyone is prejudiced to some degree, but its when prejudice leads to hatred that I find despicable. I think most of us despise people whose prejudices are based simply on race or gender.

Prejudices will affect you in a way that you will loose the opportunity to really know others or even to really choose what you want to do. For example, my Father-In-Law is extremely biased against homosexuals and has been very vocal about it despite the fact that his son is gay (he doesn't know this-or doesn't want to admit it) and it has caused a great deal of conflict in his son. I feel bad for both of them because they are both suffering because of it. His son is afraid to talk to his father about his sexual orientation and he constantly has to hide his feelings and cannot talk openly about his relationships because of this.

You seem to go out of your way to add details that simply don't add anything to the story though. For example, "although there was alcohol at some of the tables, I didn't see anyone abusing it.", what does this add to the story exactly other than to show you don't approve of people who drink alcohol?

You asked me a question...and then you followed it up with these two very condescending statements. In fact, a number of your posts are just dripping with condescension. No offense, but you just rub me the wrong way.

If I was condescening, I apologize. I was trying to raise to you to a higher standard of behavior that you are clearly capable of.

Now that we are having a reasonable discussion, it appears that we have a lot in common. What's less clear is why you have such a beef with me.

As far as alcohol, I drink beer and wine, and occasionally a mixed drink. I pointed that out that that people weren't abusing alcohol because at a lot of white Mardis Gras parties, I've been told, there is a lot of drunkeness and borish behavior,

JulesMaximus · Aug 15, 2010

jersiq said:
I know you are intelligent enough to differentiate between posting and posting with an intent to purposely shame someone to never post again. Given the information you've given, that's what you are trying to do. Why not just put the dude on your ignore list if he annoys you that much?

That is not my intent and I apologize if that's the way it came off. I guess the OP seemed kind of trollish with some of his threads so I jumped on him a bit. We'll see what kind of person he is over time though. I'll back off.

JulesMaximus · Aug 15, 2010

PhineasJWhoopee said:
If I was condescening, I apologize. I was trying to raise to you to a higher standard of behavior that you are clearly capable of.

Now that we are having a reasonable discussion, it appears that we have a lot in common. What's less clear is why you have such a beef with me.

As far as alcohol, I drink beer and wine, and occasionally a mixed drink. I pointed that out that that people weren't abusing alcohol because at a lot of white Mardis Gras parties, I've been told, there is a lot of drunkeness and borish behavior,

I've never been to Mardis Gras but I can't stand being around drunks, in fact, I've spent very little time at all in that part of the country. I do drink but never to excess...and I'm not prejudiced (not overly so against any particular race or class of people anyway).

Anyway, welcome to the forums. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt based on what you've stated and clear any preconceptions I had about you.

UglyCasanova · Aug 15, 2010

Been through Natchez many many times. Mississippi could be one of if not the most beautiful state in the Union if it wasn't so impoverished and backwards. My grandparents used to live in Port Gibson, and the charm of that town is unreal. Driving through the small towns you just get a feeling of history and mystery that are great for weekend excursions. Definitely not a place I would want to live (unfortunately). I say this but I live in Louisiana and its nothing better.

PhineasJWhoopee · Aug 15, 2010

UglyCasanova said:
Been through Natchez many many times. Mississippi could be one of if not the most beautiful state in the Union if it wasn't so impoverished and backwards. My grandparents used to live in Port Gibson, and the charm of that town is unreal. Driving through the small towns you just get a feeling of history and mystery that are great for weekend excursions. Definitely not a place I would want to live (unfortunately). I say this but I live in Louisiana and its nothing better.

I stopped at the visitors center in Port Gibson. The volunteer was a transplant from PA who had lived there for +30 yrs. It's a beautiful town.

Balt · Aug 15, 2010

PhineasJWhoopee said:
It's funny that I don't recall where I ate because I'm a foodie. It was a few years ago.

I'm thinking about going back next year. Any advice on where to eat?

I have another funny story (at least to me) about this place.

http://www.underthehillsaloon.com/custom/webpage.cfm?content=content&id=2

To be honest, I was never really impressed with the food when I lived there. Most of the places are a decent value for what you pay, but the food itself has never really blown me away. The Pig-Out Inn is decent for a BBQ lunch if you're ever in the mood. The Donut Shop is good for glazed donuts (they are more doughy than what you will find at something like a Krispy Kreme) and tamales.

The Carriage House is popular for a 'fancy' Sunday brunch. I always thought it was a bit overrated, but I haven't been there in years so maybe it has improved. Mammy's Cupboard is also decent for lunch if you don't mind driving a few miles outside of town. The building itself is also rather unique.

PhineasJWhoopee · Aug 15, 2010

Balt said:
To be honest, I was never really impressed with the food when I lived there. Most of the places are a decent value for what you pay, but the food itself has never really blown me away. The Pig-Out Inn is decent for a BBQ lunch if you're ever in the mood. The Donut Shop is good for glazed donuts (they are more doughy than what you will find at something like a Krispy Kreme) and tamales.

The Carriage House is popular for a 'fancy' Sunday brunch. I always thought it was a bit overrated, but I haven't been there in years so maybe it has improved. Mammy's Cupboard is also decent for lunch if you don't mind driving a few miles outside of town. The building itself is also rather unique.

Mammy's Cupboard sounds familiar, I may have gone there. I recall I looked at the menu at the Carriage House and passed. I'm not a big fan of BBQ.

I love southern food but I'm glad I don't have full time access to it. If I did, I'd probably weigh about 300 lbs.

I was in Savannah recently and went to Mrs.Wilkes' House. That was awesome.

Chaotic42 · Aug 15, 2010

Telling someone about a "black guy in the restaurant that just wouldn't shut up" isn't acceptable because them being black has nothing to do with the situation. It doesn't really add any details that you couldn't otherwise infer.

Telling someone about a "big party, it was in Mississippi and I was the only white guy there" is acceptable because it is descriptive. You would expect such a party to be notably different than something similar but full of white people.

tl;dr - Mostly black events have a different flavor, especially in the south, so saying they were black is useful information. An asshole is an asshole regardless of their color, so that's not really useful information. Learn the difference.

This

PhineasJWhoopee · Sep 3, 2010

Chaotic42 said:
This

This?

Invisible Evil · Sep 3, 2010

My wife and I got married at the Monmouth Plantation in Natchez.. It was a very nice place but was during the month of September and my god it was hot as hell there. We did enjoy it and the people there were very nice.

I will say this, and read what you will into it. The bell man/Guest Host was a black man and he just went completely out of his was to help us, but what was strange is he was talking and acting in the way you would see old stereotypical "black" actors... I dont really know how to describe it.

Its was like I would say " Can I get a bottle of champagne in the room for after the wedding?"

His reply would be "Oh Yes sir! Right Away Mister! I'll get that Bottle Nice and Cold For Ya Mister! can I get you anything else..no well you just give old Freddie and call now you hear!"

In hindsight it was kinda genius, he could have genuinely been that way, or the management asked him to do that... I don't know.. I did end of tipping him extremely well so maybe he knew what he was doing?

PhineasJWhoopee · Sep 3, 2010

Invisible Evil said:
My wife and I got married at the Monmouth Plantation in Natchez.. It was a very nice place but was during the month of September and my god it was hot as hell there. We did enjoy it and the people there were very nice.

I will say this, and read what you will into it. The bell man/Guest Host was a black man and he just went completely out of his was to help us, but what was strange is he was talking and acting in the way you would see old stereotypical "black" actors... I dont really know how to describe it.

Its was like I would say " Can I get a bottle of champagne in the room for after the wedding?"

His reply would be "Oh Yes sir! Right Away Mister! I'll get that Bottle Nice and Cold For Ya Mister! can I get you anything else..no well you just give old Freddie and call now you hear!"

In hindsight it was kinda genius, he could have genuinely been that way, or the management asked him to do that... I don't know.. I did end of tipping him extremely well so maybe he knew what he was doing?

Sure sounds that way.

Chaotic42 · Sep 3, 2010

PhineasJWhoopee said:
This?

'This' as in I feel that his post is correct.

Chaotic42 · Sep 3, 2010

Invisible Evil said:
My wife and I got married at the Monmouth Plantation in Natchez.. It was a very nice place but was during the month of September and my god it was hot as hell there. We did enjoy it and the people there were very nice.

I will say this, and read what you will into it. The bell man/Guest Host was a black man and he just went completely out of his was to help us, but what was strange is he was talking and acting in the way you would see old stereotypical "black" actors... I dont really know how to describe it.

Its was like I would say " Can I get a bottle of champagne in the room for after the wedding?"

His reply would be "Oh Yes sir! Right Away Mister! I'll get that Bottle Nice and Cold For Ya Mister! can I get you anything else..no well you just give old Freddie and call now you hear!"

In hindsight it was kinda genius, he could have genuinely been that way, or the management asked him to do that... I don't know.. I did end of tipping him extremely well so maybe he knew what he was doing?

I would bet it wasn't fake. Proper Southern etiquitte is over-the-top friendly.

PhineasJWhoopee · Sep 3, 2010

Chaotic42 said:
'This' as in I feel that his post is correct.

Ah, got it. I think his post was accurate too.

Crusty · Sep 3, 2010

Chaotic42 said:
I would bet it wasn't fake. Proper Southern etiquitte is over-the-top friendly.

I can't stand people who have to go out of their way to be nice, that just means they are an asshole normally.

PhineasJWhoopee · Sep 3, 2010

Crusty said:
I can't stand people who have to go out of their way to be nice, that just means they are an asshole normally.

It's generally pretty easy to spot phonies.

Xstatic1 · Sep 3, 2010

just googled images for natchez.....wow, those antebellum mansions are gorgeous.

guyver01 · Sep 3, 2010

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so... how exactly are we supposed to ftp into your computer? i highly doubt your computer is named localhost.

mayhaps you can upload them to an actual website?

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