my mom's friend commited suicide last night...

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veryape

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<< she was a very proud person who really really cared for her children >>


So much so that she killed herself. Sorry if this is an unpopular view but in my opinion suicide is for the weak. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family but she acted very selfishly in doing what she did.
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Yea, and i'm sure you've been through so much in your, long long life to make judgements against others.
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If you feel that way you know not much about life, and since you feel that way maybe sometime soon you'll get to experience what true sorrow and depression feel like, and maybe then it won't just be for the weak. If you haven't suffered from severe depression you are in no place to pass judgement. Don't tell me you have suffered from severe depression, because your comments give you away, and you definitely have not.
 

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she really did care about her children from what i heard. i dont think suicide is ever the right way to go. but i understand it was really really hard on her. she had been trying to hold her family together for such a long time, and she never showed any weakness. its just so sad to think of what she was going through and what her family would be going through at this moment... for me and her friends, we are just trying to make things for them as smooth as possible, even though its going to be still very very hard. i try to help in little things as much as i could, because they really need it
 

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<< she really did care about her children from what i heard. i dont think suicide is ever the right way to go. but i understand it was really really hard on her. she had been trying to hold her family together for such a long time, and she never showed any weakness. its just so sad to think of what she was going through and what her family would be going through at this moment... for me and her friends, we are just trying to make things for them as smooth as possible, even though its going to be still very very hard. i try to help in little things as much as i could, because they really need it >>




Sometimes in situations like that there is very little help or resources left over for the primary caregiver, she most probably did care very much for her family but became depressed and in that depression lost site of the fact that she was important to them too.

It's really good that you are there for your friend but please be sure to look after yourself !
 

Scuttle

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My thoughts to your and her families, may she find more happiness in release from her burdens. :(
 

jinduy

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that's really sad man, sorry

im just that much more grateful that i have not experienced this in my life(and hopefully never will)
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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<< she was a very proud person who really really cared for her children >>


So much so that she killed herself. Sorry if this is an unpopular view but in my opinion suicide is for the weak. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family but she acted very selfishly in doing what she did.
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Yea, and i'm sure you've been through so much in your, long long life to make judgements against others.
rolleye.gif
If you feel that way you know not much about life, and since you feel that way maybe sometime soon you'll get to experience what true sorrow and depression feel like, and maybe then it won't just be for the weak. If you haven't suffered from severe depression you are in no place to pass judgement. Don't tell me you have suffered from severe depression, because your comments give you away, and you definitely have not.
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He may, or may have not, but I have suffered severe depressions, and still am quite often heavily depressed. I have had these moods since I really started thinking about life, humanity and the world in general, and that was when I was about 8 or 9 years old. Around the age of 12 I had thought out all the pros and contras of suicide, and had decided it was the easy way out, and it would only hurt the ones close to me, and decided that I would rather put myself through the maximum suffering possible rather than give them hell too. I've had several severe depressions the past years too, where jumping in front of a train suddenly was on my mind day in day out, but decided again that that would only hurt those close to me, as well as those who would have to deal with it (train driver, cops, etc).

Do note that I don't claim that she is weak or anything for not doing the same, everyone is different and some people just cannot deal with it anymore at some point. If they are given support at that point they may get through, if instead they are offered a way out they may well take it.

I know several people who have tried suicide, and I also know a girl who is a single parent, suffers depressions a lot, and still doesn't want to abandon her child and therefor sought out professional help for it. She still needs medication to surpress most of it, but at least she can manage again. Talking with people who know how you feel helps a lot too, but not everyone has someone they can talk to, especially not someone who knows how they feel at that point.

Some people can handle it, some people cannot. If the depression hits too hard all reasoning may vanish and you just seek a way out, you may even start rationalising your choice. That's why they have psychological tests for people who request euthanasia too, to see if they are 100% clear or if their thinking is clouded.

Edit: P.S. I feel sorry for her and for everyone left behind.
 

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<< Yea, and i'm sure you've been through so much in your, long long life to make judgements against others. If you feel that way you know not much about life, and since you feel that way maybe sometime soon you'll get to experience what true sorrow and depression feel like, and maybe then it won't just be for the weak. >>


I've been through rough parts of my life. Caught my fianc&eacute;e' in bed with another guy two weeks after I gave her the ring. Think that didn't drive me down to the very depths of Hell? It did but you know what? I decided to deal with it and learn from it. Sure it hurt like hell and I felt like my very heart and soul had been ripped out but I got through it and never once considered taking the coward's way out by killing myself. You have two choices when something goes wrong in your life. Either you deal with it or you let it drive you down and control your life.



<< If you haven't suffered from severe depression you are in no place to pass judgement. Don't tell me you have suffered from severe depression, because your comments give you away, and you definitely have not. >>


Wrong again but thanks for playing ATOT pop psychologist with me.