my life just went to crap in 1 day.

[potato28]

Oush man... just keep good spirits :thumbsup:

 

[compman25]

Do you think when bubba gets done with you they'll give you pain pills for the sore rearend?

 

[Corporate Thug]

a year seems steep for a second VOP misdem. violation. I assume the oxy possession is a misdo?

 

[Tangerines]

Way to go. You have destroyed your life and the lives of your entire family. You knew the consequences, but apparently felt that oxycodone was more important than the livelihood of your wife and kid.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: Tangerines
Way to go. You have destroyed your life and the lives of your entire family. You knew the consequences, but apparently felt that oxycodone was more important than the livelihood of your wife and kid.

Destroyed his life???

That's a little much...

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: Tangerines
Way to go. You have destroyed your life and the lives of your entire family. You knew the consequences, but apparently felt that oxycodone was more important than the livelihood of your wife and kid.

"addiction - the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma."

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: smack Down
Hey idiots, the it isn't the OP fault he is going to jail it is YOURS and other fools who support the drug laws. It is on you that his daughter will have to visit him in jail.

That doesn't make any sense... it ignores any possible reason for having the anti-drug law in the first place...

There are good reasons for having anti-drug laws. Good, non-religious, very obvious reasons that countries around the world have discovered for thousands of years time and time again. Addiction almost always leads to desperation.

That being said, YES, prescription pain killers are extremely addictive. And if you got some for surgery and got addicted, you are not a terrible person.

And YES, most likely jail time is not the appropriate course of action. The courts will decide. But don't go the complete other direction and say the best solution is to repeal our anti-drug laws and let the OP continue with his addiction. The solution hear is to ELIMINATE HIS ADDICTION so the man can have his life back. I think with a good lawyer and some clear commitment, he can avoid jail time.

Yes lets base our laws on what they had 1000 years ago. Should we declared bush king too? Maybe bring back slaves, how about stoning to was all the range in the stone age?

But your right there are lots of non-religious reason like states love drug forfeiture laws, the police union, DuPont, people hating Mexicans, and I'm sure there are more that I'm forget or don't even know.

Go back and read my last post and you will see several non-religious reasons for the outlawing of drugs.


Edit: I'll even repost it here for you.


Right... because drug use is clearly a "moraility only" issue...

Clearly there was never anyone injured, killed, or property destroyed because of the actions (direct or indirect) or judgement of someone who is under the influence of a chemical substance. Never has there been a automobile crash, and I'm sure you'd like your airline pilot to be high while he's flying you to detriot. Maybe you'd like your electrician to be trippin when they wire your house...

And clearly there are never any harmful side effects, drug interactions or possibilities for overdosing with recreational use. These drugs drugs could absolutely never create another widespread array of medical epidemic conditions similar to what cigarettes have done to lungs & hearts, and alcohol to livers. And while we're at it we should define withdrawl as another recognized medical condition so that these self addicts can get treatment for it as well.

Even more so, no-one has ever gotten so addicted that they would use their money to buy a fix, rather than pay their bills or buy food for their starving children.

Clearly this war on drugs is the agenda of the religious zealots who want to force Jesus on you... it couldnt possibly be the result of financial concerns of the medical insurance companies or safety concerns of public officials.

Responsible recreational use is a figment of your imagination... it does not exist. Get a clue!

Why do you hate freedom?

Hey while where at it lets out law, knives because people have been injured, killed or property destroyed with the, same goes for tobacco, sharp corners, box cutters, airplanes, alcohol, bottles, cars. Let just make everyone live in a padded room or better yet a jail cell I'm sure you would love that idea, so that they can't hurt themselves.

And all those people at the bar must only be a figment of my imagination because they are using alcohol, a drug, responsible.

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: eits
*mouth full of banana split*

"four years just for weed!? damn!"

weed? weed is not a drug! I used to suck dick for coke!

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: smack Down
Hey idiots, the it isn't the OP fault he is going to jail it is YOURS and other fools who support the drug laws. It is on you that his daughter will have to visit him in jail.

That doesn't make any sense... it ignores any possible reason for having the anti-drug law in the first place...

There are good reasons for having anti-drug laws. Good, non-religious, very obvious reasons that countries around the world have discovered for thousands of years time and time again. Addiction almost always leads to desperation.

That being said, YES, prescription pain killers are extremely addictive. And if you got some for surgery and got addicted, you are not a terrible person.

And YES, most likely jail time is not the appropriate course of action. The courts will decide. But don't go the complete other direction and say the best solution is to repeal our anti-drug laws and let the OP continue with his addiction. The solution hear is to ELIMINATE HIS ADDICTION so the man can have his life back. I think with a good lawyer and some clear commitment, he can avoid jail time.

Yes lets base our laws on what they had 1000 years ago. Should we declared bush king too? Maybe bring back slaves, how about stoning to was all the range in the stone age?

But your right there are lots of non-religious reason like states love drug forfeiture laws, the police union, DuPont, people hating Mexicans, and I'm sure there are more that I'm forget or don't even know.

Go back and read my last post and you will see several non-religious reasons for the outlawing of drugs.


Edit: I'll even repost it here for you.


Right... because drug use is clearly a "moraility only" issue...

Clearly there was never anyone injured, killed, or property destroyed because of the actions (direct or indirect) or judgement of someone who is under the influence of a chemical substance. Never has there been a automobile crash, and I'm sure you'd like your airline pilot to be high while he's flying you to detriot. Maybe you'd like your electrician to be trippin when they wire your house...

And clearly there are never any harmful side effects, drug interactions or possibilities for overdosing with recreational use. These drugs drugs could absolutely never create another widespread array of medical epidemic conditions similar to what cigarettes have done to lungs & hearts, and alcohol to livers. And while we're at it we should define withdrawl as another recognized medical condition so that these self addicts can get treatment for it as well.

Even more so, no-one has ever gotten so addicted that they would use their money to buy a fix, rather than pay their bills or buy food for their starving children.

Clearly this war on drugs is the agenda of the religious zealots who want to force Jesus on you... it couldnt possibly be the result of financial concerns of the medical insurance companies or safety concerns of public officials.

Responsible recreational use is a figment of your imagination... it does not exist. Get a clue!

So your proposing it's the insurance companies who are afraid of people getting sick...?
Public Health only goes to the extent that it does not deny a person's choice.

1. There is a thing called recreational use and it doesn't apply when someone is at work. That's addicted. The extent to which the OP is addicted or simply a recreational user is unknown and irrelevant.

2. And yet cigarettes and alcohol are legal. what point were you trying to make again? They kill? So? There's a thing called personal choice. You can use it, let everyone else.

3. Was the OP doing so? If not then in his situation there was nothing wrong. Also it does happens to be the OP's money. He can spend it as he wishes. It's also just another rarely occuring scenario. Pls don't try to make it sound like it happens everyday.

4. So we should all hail and thank the insurance corporations from saving us from drug abuse? We should hail the public health official who tells you that you are not allowed to take X pill in your own house on your own time?


Simple fact is you don't do drugs. You've never recreationally used or know someone who has. Your argument is an argument from nothing. Just because you don't see it does not mean it does not exist. It's a logical fallacy.

 

[lizardboy]

Originally posted by: MAME
here's hoping you rot in jail for a long time

seriously, why haven't you ****** off & died yet?

 

[DrPizza]

No one mentioned zane's other threads about using drugs yet?
here

The thread was specifically about taking Xanax (at a strength that's probably too strong - maximum dosage) and also mentioned in that thread that he was taking 4 hydrocodones after work for his sore back caused by sitting all day. That's a LOT for pain caused just by sitting in an office chair.

Another tidbit from that thread: "it's amazing...feels like a mix of pot and ampetamines to me. " So, he mixes pot and amphetamines, or has in the past?

Then there's this thread started by zane What's your kryptonite:

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
pain pills for me

i've dabbled in just about every substance out there...from reefer to stimulants and back.... and i've been able to start and stop them all without discomfort except for these damn pain pills....

And: "i have a tolerance to opiates but i need at least 90mg of it to get a good euphoria going on.... "

Followed by an ATOTer commenting: "Seriously, dude, if you want to stop using, just stop using.. " Zane's response: "who said anything about stopping? "

And later, about abusing drugs: "dont knock it till you try it. imagine a warm fuzzy blanket, and the best orgasm you ever had.... then multiply it by 10x and your still not even close... "

And...

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
norco 10/325 to keep wreckage of liver to a minimum.

So you're taking in about 3.5 grams of APAP on a daily basis. If you call that a "minimum" then you're kidding yourself.

Of course you don't want to stop, you're completely hooked on them.
I was too. This thread is easily construed as a very meek cry for help.
Hopefully some day you come to your senses. Before you completely destroy all seratonin receptors in your brain.

oh believe me i know... i've been doing this for years...not the first drug i've ever been in the grips of so you dont have to talk to me like im a kid unknowingly getting himself into a world of trouble.... i know the trouble im getting into, i know how withdrawals feel, and i know the maximum dosage daily apap, it's 4 grams....

Right the maximum daily dose is 4 grams, you're right up there. That's far from "minimizing" your liver damage. That's like saying shooting yourself in the leg everyday is minimizing the damage a bullet can do to you.

I don't have to talk to you like a kid unknowingly getting himself into trouble, I'll talk to you like a dumbass grown man who is stupid enough to get himself into that trouble halfway through life. If your life sucks that bad where you need opiates everyday, you need more help than just getting off drugs. A fully aware adult is infinitely worse than an unaware child.

Good luck, I guess.

I bolded part for obvious reasons...
Maybe this is a good wake-up call.

 

[McGyver]

never get addicted to drugs in my entire life. i prolly dunno how u feel but all imma say is, good luck dawg.

 

[indamixx99]

Wow, sorry to hear man. I spent 1 day in jail for Tresspassing last year. Worst day of my life. 2 years probation now and so far so good. It's a learning experience and definately an eye opener..

 

[allisolm]

Reading all that stuff Dr Pizza posted does rather remove the sympathy factor. I hope zanejohnson can come back from this although his posts don't seem to indicate that he's ready.

Good luck to him!

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: allisolm
Reading all that stuff Dr Pizza posted does rather remove the sympathy factor. I hope zanejohnson can come back from this although his posts don't seem to indicate that he's ready.

Good luck to him!

yeap. that puts it in a diffrent context.


but i still feel sorry for his family.

 

[FoBoT]

update?

did the OP get out of the pokey yet?

did you see Paris in the joint?

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
update?

did the OP get out of the pokey yet?

did you see Paris in the joint?

LOL
Did you even read the original post?

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

Stupid advice! He should leave everything that he has ever known and be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life? Think this through.
Anti drug? The Op admited he is adicted to drugs. Now you want him to leave the country and raise his child in an environment where it is OK to get yourself adicted to drugs?
What are you smoking?

Why is everything black and white with you religious zealots? The Opie has a PRESCRIPTION to pain killers (and yes, is addicted--not hard to do from what i read), his wife is a very infrequent recreational user. What is it with you religious nuts that makes you think EVERYONE should live a "holy, pious, god-fearing" life? What is it? I dont subscribe to your view of the world, does that mean i should be in jail? The Opie doesnt subscribe to your view of the world, nor does his wife. To you, this means, "burn them at the stake," right? Youre about 1500-1000 years behind the times. It would really do you some good to get out and experience, learn, and develop as a human being before attempting to FORCE your false morality on others. That hangover from that 6 year party has really got you peeved, eh?

Calm down there body. I am not religious. Addiction to oxicotone can kill you. oxicotone should not be taken unless you have a need for it.

:disgust:

You dont even know the drug the Opie is talking about. The fact that you buy into the nonsense that "oxicotone" (its Oxycodone and oxycontin, one is about 4 hours of pain relief, the other 8 hours) is deadly just proves your IGNORANCE. Youre absolute and utterly ignorant. Opioids do not kill (edit: disclaimer, they can kill, but kill very few regular using addicts), this is why you see OLD heroin addicts. Seriously, do some reading and get a little education before making blanket statements. Your ignorance is profound. Your stupid, myopic, idiotic, religious agenda is obvious.

Most asinine reply I have ever seen. Ya drugs don't kill you immidiatly, once addicted, they take you on a steady decline into oblivion, decay, brain damage and death. Go out on the streets and have a look. The OP got cut and he admited to being addicted. Hopefully this arrest will help him to beat it. There are reasons why drugs are illegal: They kill people and not just the drug addicts.
Some drugs are less addictive then others like pot and people can use and not get addicted. That is not the case for most other drugs.

So take your liberal drug taking ideas and shove them up you a$$.
And please jump right in

there is not always a steady decline. People quit. People change. The problems in people's lives change.

Sure drugs kill people. It's people's choice to kill themselves. Not yours. What happens if I believed you should die? I should just go enforce that belief? no.

Most drugs are not addictive I would say rather than the other way around. Last I heard things from claritin to advil to aspirin aren't addictive.
Take your self-righteousness and shove it somewhere it won't make noise.

Ya I was talking about aspirin and claritin, you cretin
Now hopefully you won't get yourself addicted out there otherwise you're the one who is going to get stuff shoved up your sorry behind.

 

[f1r3s1d3]

Ya do the crime ya do the time. Simple as that. You can't blame it on anyone else but yourself. Now you just gotta suck it up and await your sentence.

Furthermore, just because it was a victimless crime up until now, it may have changed if you hadn't been caught. You could've gotten really really messed up and hurt your wife, child, or some innocent pedestrian.

 

[Jaha]

Am I seeing this right? People are saying that nothing should happen to this zane guy because they think the laws are stupid? If you do something illegal, prepare for the punishment. If you don't like the laws then either abide by them while working to change them or move to a country where the laws are acceptable to you. The guy knew he would do jail time if getting busted *again* and would leave his wife and child behind. He placed getting his fix in higher in priority than being a stable, decent, supportive father.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Jaha
Am I seeing this right? People are saying that nothing should happen to this zane guy because they think the laws are stupid? If you do something illegal, prepare for the punishment. If you don't like the laws then either abide by them while working to change them or move to a country where the laws are acceptable to you. The guy knew he would do jail time if getting busted *again* and would leave his wife and child behind. He placed getting his fix in higher in priority than being a stable, decent, supportive father.

Shhh.. no logic allowed here. We're fighting the evil gubbermint!

 

[SampSon]

I'd feel sorry for you because of your rabid drug addiction, but after This thread and This thread it's clear you simply need help.

I hate to say it but, I TOLD YOU SO! You need to get help, most likely you will REQUIRED to get help by the courts, if they let you stay out of jail. The reality is that you need the help to get sober and take life as it comes. At the bottom of this problem will be a very real depression/anxiety problem that you simply haven't been bothered to face your entire life. You masked it with drugs of all sorts. Sure you got by day to day and made yourself a life, but you can't deal with your life without drugs. This is a very common thing, more common that you know and more common than anyone here knows or wants to admit. You will learn this when you enter and work your way through a recovery program.

Substance abuse is so common that it shouldn't be surprising anymore. Every single person in this thread is related to it in some way, no matter if they recogize it or not. If you are willing to embrace the help that will be given to you then you will get through this. The courts will most likely require you to do this, but you have to keep a strong belief that you are doing this for yourself. If you go through a recovery program thinking that you're only going through it to stay out of jail then you will ultimately fail and go right back to being addicted.

No one thinks they have a problem nor will they do anything about it until they have lost something or are about to lose something. You have hit that point and now you must face up to the problem and everything else you really hate about life. You will get through this, because people out there care for you, trust me.

 

[EGGO]

With luck, your lawyer will plea bargain rehab and that'll be it for you, the law, and your addiction.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd feel sorry for you because of your rabid drug addiction, but after This thread and This thread it's clear you simply need help.

I hate to say it but, I TOLD YOU SO! You need to get help, most likely you will REQUIRED to get help by the courts, if they let you stay out of jail. The reality is that you need the help to get sober and take life as it comes. At the bottom of this problem will be a very real depression/anxiety problem that you simply haven't been bothered to face your entire life. You masked it with drugs of all sorts. Sure you got by day to day and made yourself a life, but you can't deal with your life without drugs. This is a very common thing, more common that you know and more common than anyone here knows or wants to admit. You will learn this when you enter and work your way through a recovery program.

Substance abuse is so common that it shouldn't be surprising anymore. Every single person in this thread is related to it in some way, no matter if they recogize it or not. If you are willing to embrace the help that will be given to you then you will get through this. The courts will most likely require you to do this, but you have to keep a strong belief that you are doing this for yourself. If you go through a recovery program thinking that you're only going through it to stay out of jail then you will ultimately fail and go right back to being addicted.

No one thinks they have a problem nor will they do anything about it until they have lost something or are about to lose something. You have hit that point and now you must face up to the problem and everything else you really hate about life. You will get through this, because people out there care for you, trust me.

WOW excellent write up Sampson. You have a good understanding of drug abuse and it's underlying causes and solutions. Well said.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: Jaha
Am I seeing this right? People are saying that nothing should happen to this zane guy because they think the laws are stupid? If you do something illegal, prepare for the punishment. If you don't like the laws then either abide by them while working to change them or move to a country where the laws are acceptable to you. The guy knew he would do jail time if getting busted *again* and would leave his wife and child behind. He placed getting his fix in higher in priority than being a stable, decent, supportive father.

An unjust law is no law at all.

It is a shame that with such a large percentage supporting legalization of drugs they don't make their voices heard from the jury box.