my life just went to crap in 1 day.

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1
I guess the trolls forgot THEY WILL BE PAYING for his three hot's and a cot..

I'd rather the money spent on rehab then wasting it on locking him up, save
that space for the murderers, rapists, theives and the like.

This is a gainfully employed man with a drug problem, not a frigging monster!!!

:thumbsup:

I'd like to see this one followed up on. Since Rush didn't do time neither should this guy.

They both have a$$holes and sh!t the same way.

Other than money what makes this guy any different?

 

[awolkoff]

Originally posted by: IeraseU
Drugs should all be legal, every single one. I don't see the need to increase what is already the largest prison population on the planet with people accused of these petty charges by the morality police.

+1

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

How many people do you know who were addicted to hydrocodone or other opiods? I know some, and let me just say that whenever they couldn't get their addiction met, it was a serious problem, a very serious problem. They turned into the kind of person who would beg and beg and beg for you to help them, lend them money, etc. What's worse is if that didn't work, anger would come next...

Addiction is a dangerous game to play, especially with kids, but even without them it can ruin your life. I don't care whether its a legal or illegal substance... but their shouldn't be any debate about opioids like hydrocodone, because they are EXTREMELY addictive.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452

Originally posted by: invidia
You were on probation and yet you still went ahead and used drugs. You were given a second chance in life and yet you failed as a husband, a father, and a civilized person that can't obey the law.

It says alot about you. There shouldn't be "third", "fourth" chances in life. It's ridiculous that God has to forgive people for doing the same mistake over and over.

it's ridiculous that your close enough to god to judge.

Judge not, lest you shall be judged!

 

[Sphexi]

Enjoy prison. When you get out maybe you'll man up and take your responsibilities more seriously.

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: alien42
:thumbsup:

he is probably a better father then some religious zealots that beat their children

What is with all the attacks on religious people?

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: BigJ
What's done is done with the drugs. Ignore the people lecturing; whether you feel they're right or wrong has no bearing on your future right now. Your top priority should be your family.

Take MichaelD's advice. Try to kick your addiction (I feel for you with being addicted to prescription PKers; it's way too easy to get hooked) and cleanup before the court date, and also try to prepare your family for when they're without you.

Yes, its important to kick your addiction NOW because if you do end up with jail time then its going to be a lot harder.

And GET A LAWYER!

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: smack Down
Hey idiots, the it isn't the OP fault he is going to jail it is YOURS and other fools who support the drug laws. It is on you that his daughter will have to visit him in jail.

That doesn't make any sense... it ignores any possible reason for having the anti-drug law in the first place...

There are good reasons for having anti-drug laws. Good, non-religious, very obvious reasons that countries around the world have discovered for thousands of years time and time again. Addiction almost always leads to desperation.

That being said, YES, prescription pain killers are extremely addictive. And if you got some for surgery and got addicted, you are not a terrible person.

And YES, most likely jail time is not the appropriate course of action. The courts will decide. But don't go the complete other direction and say the best solution is to repeal our anti-drug laws and let the OP continue with his addiction. The solution hear is to ELIMINATE HIS ADDICTION so the man can have his life back. I think with a good lawyer and some clear commitment, he can avoid jail time.

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: StormRider

What about Anna Nicole Smith? She just had a baby but continued to use drugs. And she's in a cemetery now.

She has big boobs. Thus, if you have big boobs, you'll end up in a cementary. cum hoc ergo propter hoc

Except her boobs didn't cause her death -- the pills she took did.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

Stupid advice! He should leave everything that he has ever known and be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life? Think this through.
Anti drug? The Op admited he is adicted to drugs. Now you want him to leave the country and raise his child in an environment where it is OK to get yourself adicted to drugs?
What are you smoking?

Why is everything black and white with you religious zealots? The Opie has a PRESCRIPTION to pain killers (and yes, is addicted--not hard to do from what i read), his wife is a very infrequent recreational user. What is it with you religious nuts that makes you think EVERYONE should live a "holy, pious, god-fearing" life? What is it? I dont subscribe to your view of the world, does that mean i should be in jail? The Opie doesnt subscribe to your view of the world, nor does his wife. To you, this means, "burn them at the stake," right? Youre about 1500-1000 years behind the times. It would really do you some good to get out and experience, learn, and develop as a human being before attempting to FORCE your false morality on others. That hangover from that 6 year party has really got you peeved, eh?

Calm down there body. I am not religious. Addiction to oxicotone can kill you. oxicotone should not be taken unless you have a need for it.

:disgust:

You dont even know the drug the Opie is talking about. The fact that you buy into the nonsense that "oxicotone" (its Oxycodone and oxycontin, one is about 4 hours of pain relief, the other 8 hours) is deadly just proves your IGNORANCE. Youre absolute and utterly ignorant. Opioids do not kill (edit: disclaimer, they can kill, but kill very few regular using addicts), this is why you see OLD heroin addicts. Seriously, do some reading and get a little education before making blanket statements. Your ignorance is profound. Your stupid, myopic, idiotic, religious agenda is obvious.

Most asinine reply I have ever seen. Ya drugs don't kill you immidiatly, once addicted, they take you on a steady decline into oblivion, decay, brain damage and death. Go out on the streets and have a look. The OP got cut and he admited to being addicted. Hopefully this arrest will help him to beat it. There are reasons why drugs are illegal: They kill people and not just the drug addicts.
Some drugs are less addictive then others like pot and people can use and not get addicted. That is not the case for most other drugs.

So take your liberal drug taking ideas and shove them up you a$$.
And please jump right in

 

[Brule]

Originally posted by: awolkoff

Originally posted by: IeraseU
Drugs should all be legal, every single one. I don't see the need to increase what is already the largest prison population on the planet with people accused of these petty charges by the morality police.

+1

+2

Best of luck to the OP, find a lawyer who has experience in drug cases: there are many ways to get the charges dropped or reduced. There are old ladies swapping schedule 2, 3, and 4 substances all the time cause that's the way things used to be done. When they find someone younger doing the same thing they go after them...

The OP only has to answer to his family and himself, not to anyone condemning him from their "higher than thou" positions. Sorry to break it to you, but the OP isn't the "bad guy" here. He has to use his personal responsibility and make amends to his family/friends and no one else.

 

[Toastedlightly]

Originally posted by: Brule

Originally posted by: awolkoff

Originally posted by: IeraseU
Drugs should all be legal, every single one. I don't see the need to increase what is already the largest prison population on the planet with people accused of these petty charges by the morality police.

+1

+2

Best of luck to the OP, find a lawyer who has experience in drug cases: there are many ways to get the charges dropped or reduced. There are old ladies swapping schedule 2, 3, and 4 substances all the time cause that's the way things used to be done. When they find someone younger doing the same thing they go after them...

The OP only has to answer to his family and himself, not to anyone condemning him from their "higher than thou" positions. Sorry to break it to you, but the OP isn't the "bad guy" here. He has to use his personal responsibility and make amends to his family/friends and no one else.

If this were to happen, several other laws (notably driving related ones) would need to be changed.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

Stupid advice! He should leave everything that he has ever known and be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life? Think this through.
Anti drug? The Op admited he is adicted to drugs. Now you want him to leave the country and raise his child in an environment where it is OK to get yourself adicted to drugs?
What are you smoking?

Why is everything black and white with you religious zealots? The Opie has a PRESCRIPTION to pain killers (and yes, is addicted--not hard to do from what i read), his wife is a very infrequent recreational user. What is it with you religious nuts that makes you think EVERYONE should live a "holy, pious, god-fearing" life? What is it? I dont subscribe to your view of the world, does that mean i should be in jail? The Opie doesnt subscribe to your view of the world, nor does his wife. To you, this means, "burn them at the stake," right? Youre about 1500-1000 years behind the times. It would really do you some good to get out and experience, learn, and develop as a human being before attempting to FORCE your false morality on others. That hangover from that 6 year party has really got you peeved, eh?

Calm down there body. I am not religious. Addiction to oxicotone can kill you. oxicotone should not be taken unless you have a need for it.

:disgust:

You dont even know the drug the Opie is talking about. The fact that you buy into the nonsense that "oxicotone" (its Oxycodone and oxycontin, one is about 4 hours of pain relief, the other 8 hours) is deadly just proves your IGNORANCE. Youre absolute and utterly ignorant. Opioids do not kill (edit: disclaimer, they can kill, but kill very few regular using addicts), this is why you see OLD heroin addicts. Seriously, do some reading and get a little education before making blanket statements. Your ignorance is profound. Your stupid, myopic, idiotic, religious agenda is obvious.

Most asinine reply I have ever seen. Ya drugs don't kill you immidiatly, once addicted, they take you on a steady decline into oblivion, decay, brain damage and death. Go out on the streets and have a look. The OP got cut and he admited to being addicted. Hopefully this arrest will help him to beat it. There are reasons why drugs are illegal: They kill people and not just the drug addicts.
Some drugs are less addictive then others like pot and people can use and not get addicted. That is not the case for most other drugs.

So take your liberal drug taking ideas and shove them up you a$$.
And please jump right in

there is not always a steady decline. People quit. People change. The problems in people's lives change.

Sure drugs kill people. It's people's choice to kill themselves. Not yours. What happens if I believed you should die? I should just go enforce that belief? no.

Most drugs are not addictive I would say rather than the other way around. Last I heard things from claritin to advil to aspirin aren't addictive.

Take your self-righteousness and shove it somewhere it won't make noise.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: IeraseU
Drugs should all be legal, every single one. I don't see the need to increase what is already the largest prison population on the planet with people accused of these petty charges by the morality police.

Drug possession is about more than just morality. Drug users that are not in full possession of their faculties can be a danger to others, depending on the drug they're on.

Drug use isn't a victimless crime as some libertarians would have you believe. OP needs to grow up and realize his actions have very real consequences for his family.

 

[Old Hippie]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I call shens,around here oxies go for $1 per mg,why would anyone just toss a whole bottle at you for free and unsolictited?

it was possession of a dangereous drug, phenobarbitol...

His buddy tossed him phenobarbitol.

 

[Fritzo]

This might be a blessing. Maybe this will see what you've been doing wrong, and make you a better person.

 

[hydroponik]

That's the problem with the US justice system. A drug user is treated worse than murderers and rapists, where as in other countries, they would try to rehabilitate the person, here they throw the book at you.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: smack Down
Hey idiots, the it isn't the OP fault he is going to jail it is YOURS and other fools who support the drug laws. It is on you that his daughter will have to visit him in jail.

That doesn't make any sense... it ignores any possible reason for having the anti-drug law in the first place...

There are good reasons for having anti-drug laws. Good, non-religious, very obvious reasons that countries around the world have discovered for thousands of years time and time again. Addiction almost always leads to desperation.

That being said, YES, prescription pain killers are extremely addictive. And if you got some for surgery and got addicted, you are not a terrible person.

And YES, most likely jail time is not the appropriate course of action. The courts will decide. But don't go the complete other direction and say the best solution is to repeal our anti-drug laws and let the OP continue with his addiction. The solution hear is to ELIMINATE HIS ADDICTION so the man can have his life back. I think with a good lawyer and some clear commitment, he can avoid jail time.

Yes lets base our laws on what they had 1000 years ago. Should we declared bush king too? Maybe bring back slaves, how about stoning to was all the range in the stone age?

But your right there are lots of non-religious reason like states love drug forfeiture laws, the police union, DuPont, people hating Mexicans, and I'm sure there are more that I'm forget or don't even know.

 

[imported_Baloo]

Sonunds like it took more than aday to go to crap, more like over several years. But I have to say it
Ha ha ha ha ha.

Take some water based lube with you.

Oh, wait, shens?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: hydroponik
That's the problem with the US justice system. A drug user is treated worse than murderers and rapists, where as in other countries, they would try to rehabilitate the person, here they throw the book at you.

How many murdering rapists do you know posting to ATOT from home while waiting for trial in ~8 months for a possible 1-year sentence, or possibly just rehab? Cry more, emo kid.

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: alien42
he is probably a better father then some religious zealots that beat their children

What is with all the attacks on religious people?

It seems God is the new Hitler, at least when it comes to poorly-argued internet debates. Don't agree with your opponent? Accuse him of being religious! It carries twice at the weight as "Nazi!" :laugh:

 

[hydroponik]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: hydroponik
That's the problem with the US justice system. A drug user is treated worse than murderers and rapists, where as in other countries, they would try to rehabilitate the person, here they throw the book at you.

How many murdering rapists do you know posting to ATOT from home while waiting for trial in ~8 months for a possible 1-year sentence, or possibly just rehab? Cry more, emo kid.

You're a retard. That makes no sense at all.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: hydroponik

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: hydroponik
That's the problem with the US justice system. A drug user is treated worse than murderers and rapists, where as in other countries, they would try to rehabilitate the person, here they throw the book at you.

How many murdering rapists do you know posting to ATOT from home while waiting for trial in ~8 months for a possible 1-year sentence, or possibly just rehab? Cry more, emo kid.

You're a retard. That makes no sense at all.

Of course it doesn't, you're the one who said drug offenders are treated more harshly that rapists and murders, you ****** nitwit.

 

[hydroponik]

It's called an exaggeration, and it's not far off base. Just cuz you think it's ok, doesn't mean its right.

p.s. you're still a retard.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: hydroponik
It's called an exaggeration, and it's not far off base. Just cuz you think it's ok, doesn't mean its right.

p.s. you're still a retard.

I'm a retard, yet instead of using any one of nearly-endless "logical" arguments that can be made in the pro-legalization debate, you choose, rather, to name your self "hydroponik" and spew forth an endless stream of useless exaggerations and non-sequiturs. "ZOMG! Rapists have more rights than me!!" :roll:

Please, just go away. We don't *want* you on our side. Just toke up and stay in your basement while the real men go out and defend your rights, by arguing rationally, working with legislators, and all the other "useful" methods to try and get these inane, archaic laws repealed.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: smack Down
Hey idiots, the it isn't the OP fault he is going to jail it is YOURS and other fools who support the drug laws. It is on you that his daughter will have to visit him in jail.

That doesn't make any sense... it ignores any possible reason for having the anti-drug law in the first place...

There are good reasons for having anti-drug laws. Good, non-religious, very obvious reasons that countries around the world have discovered for thousands of years time and time again. Addiction almost always leads to desperation.

That being said, YES, prescription pain killers are extremely addictive. And if you got some for surgery and got addicted, you are not a terrible person.

And YES, most likely jail time is not the appropriate course of action. The courts will decide. But don't go the complete other direction and say the best solution is to repeal our anti-drug laws and let the OP continue with his addiction. The solution hear is to ELIMINATE HIS ADDICTION so the man can have his life back. I think with a good lawyer and some clear commitment, he can avoid jail time.

Yes lets base our laws on what they had 1000 years ago. Should we declared bush king too? Maybe bring back slaves, how about stoning to was all the range in the stone age?

But your right there are lots of non-religious reason like states love drug forfeiture laws, the police union, DuPont, people hating Mexicans, and I'm sure there are more that I'm forget or don't even know.

Go back and read my last post and you will see several non-religious reasons for the outlawing of drugs.


Edit: I'll even repost it here for you.


Right... because drug use is clearly a "moraility only" issue...

Clearly there was never anyone injured, killed, or property destroyed because of the actions (direct or indirect) or judgement of someone who is under the influence of a chemical substance. Never has there been a automobile crash, and I'm sure you'd like your airline pilot to be high while he's flying you to detriot. Maybe you'd like your electrician to be trippin when they wire your house...

And clearly there are never any harmful side effects, drug interactions or possibilities for overdosing with recreational use. These drugs drugs could absolutely never create another widespread array of medical epidemic conditions similar to what cigarettes have done to lungs & hearts, and alcohol to livers. And while we're at it we should define withdrawl as another recognized medical condition so that these self addicts can get treatment for it as well.

Even more so, no-one has ever gotten so addicted that they would use their money to buy a fix, rather than pay their bills or buy food for their starving children.

Clearly this war on drugs is the agenda of the religious zealots who want to force Jesus on you... it couldnt possibly be the result of financial concerns of the medical insurance companies or safety concerns of public officials.

Responsible recreational use is a figment of your imagination... it does not exist. Get a clue!