my life just went to crap in 1 day.

[Number1]

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

Stupid advice! He should leave everything that he has ever known and be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life? Think this through.
Anti drug? The Op admited he is adicted to drugs. Now you want him to leave the country and raise his child in an environment where it is OK to get yourself adicted to drugs?
What are you smoking?

 

[TallBill]

To the OP, thanks for sharing your story. Not a lot of people will come on here and openly admit that they screwed up to open themselves up for a bashing. Just realize that your life isn't over. Take your punishment and it sounds like you'll learn from it. Get out and get on the right path. It'll suck missing time with your daughter, but she'll be to young to remember it.

 

[Flyback]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

Stupid advice! He should leave everything that he has ever known and be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life? Think this through.
Anti drug? The Op admited he is adicted to drugs. Now you want him to leave the country and raise his child in an environment where it is OK to get yourself adicted to drugs?
What are you smoking?

I'm not from his area, but if he has to spend any lengthy period of time incarcerated it will be far more to the detriment to his family vs some drug use. He loses job, serves "a year or so" and the financial stability of his family will go to crap, especially with a wife who recently had a child (and should spend time with the child, not working). Most people have relatively little savings. Very few have enough to make it through a year without income.

Yes he admitted that he is addicted to drugs. Addiction requires therapy not punishment to be the least bit constructive.

And yes, I think he should take his family somewhere that supports and values the freedom that he will be [shortly] denied.

 

[jinduy]

you got pwned. live n learn.

 

[homercles337]

Wow, look at all the holier than thou religious kooks here. Its illegal, therefore IMMORAL. Lets legislate morality! Take his kids away! Recreational drug users who are parents should be in jail! Its just ignorance Zane, dont listen to these fools. They are just now sobering up from their drunken spree of 6 years. A little education would serve them well.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: IeraseU
Drugs should all be legal, every single one. I don't see the need to increase what is already the largest prison population on the planet with people accused of these petty charges by the morality police.

And you should be hit by an intoxicated motorist.

You are an idiot. People who drive under the influence are still breaking the law.
Responsible use of a drug is not impossible. Just stay in your damn house or have a DD.

 

[TheGizmo]

Originally posted by: mrizvi66

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: AmerDoux

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
no, the legal system in my county moves so slow there's no need to yet...

when i got the weed charge it took 8 months to go to court over it....

You get 24 hours to b!tch about it and feel sorry for yourself. Yeah it sucks, yeah the system sucks, yeah maybe you didnt deserve it. Whatever. It did happen and now you need to deal with it. It's time to get your arse moving and do some damage control. Get a lawyer right now. Get yourself into a rehab program. Attend regularly, do everything you're supposed to do, including regular drug testing to show your staying clean. If it does take months for this to go to court then that means you have months to be pro-active and get your shyt together. That will impress the courts and maybe the judge will think you are finally taking this seriously and it might defer your sentence. If you sit around and dont take any responsibility and do nothing about it, then you deserve no sympathy.

Best reply so far. :thumbsup:

seconded

straight up...fvck the police

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: Flyback

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

Stupid advice! He should leave everything that he has ever known and be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life? Think this through.
Anti drug? The Op admited he is adicted to drugs. Now you want him to leave the country and raise his child in an environment where it is OK to get yourself adicted to drugs?
What are you smoking?

I'm not from his area, but if he has to spend any lengthy period of time incarcerated it will be far more to the detriment to his family vs some drug use. He loses job, serves "a year or so" and the financial stability of his family will go to crap, especially with a wife who recently had a child (and should spend time with the child, not working). Most people have relatively little savings. Very few have enough to make it through a year without income.

Yes he admitted that he is addicted to drugs. Addiction requires therapy not punishment to be the least bit constructive.

And yes, I think he should take his family somewhere that supports and values the freedom that he will be [shortly] denied.

I agree that he needs rehab more then jail. Addiction to oxycodone will kill him if its not dealt with.
Jail time should be used as a deterent if he fails or refuses threatment for his addiction. WHat country would you sugest he goes to?

 

[dpert1]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: AmerDoux

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
no, the legal system in my county moves so slow there's no need to yet...

when i got the weed charge it took 8 months to go to court over it....

You get 24 hours to b!tch about it and feel sorry for yourself. Yeah it sucks, yeah the system sucks, yeah maybe you didnt deserve it. Whatever. It did happen and now you need to deal with it. It's time to get your arse moving and do some damage control. Get a lawyer right now. Get yourself into a rehab program. Attend regularly, do everything you're supposed to do, including regular drug testing to show your staying clean. If it does take months for this to go to court then that means you have months to be pro-active and get your shyt together. That will impress the courts and maybe the judge will think you are finally taking this seriously and it might defer your sentence. If you sit around and dont take any responsibility and do nothing about it, then you deserve no sympathy.

Best reply so far. :thumbsup:

Agreed

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

Stupid advice! He should leave everything that he has ever known and be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life? Think this through.
Anti drug? The Op admited he is adicted to drugs. Now you want him to leave the country and raise his child in an environment where it is OK to get yourself adicted to drugs?
What are you smoking?

Why is everything black and white with you religious zealots? The Opie has a PRESCRIPTION to pain killers (and yes, is addicted--not hard to do from what i read), his wife is a very infrequent recreational user. What is it with you religious nuts that makes you think EVERYONE should live a "holy, pious, god-fearing" life? What is it? I dont subscribe to your view of the world, does that mean i should be in jail? The Opie doesnt subscribe to your view of the world, nor does his wife. To you, this means, "burn them at the stake," right? Youre about 1500-1000 years behind the times. It would really do you some good to get out and experience, learn, and develop as a human being before attempting to FORCE your false morality on others. That hangover from that 6 year party has really got you peeved, eh?

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: IeraseU
Drugs should all be legal, every single one. I don't see the need to increase what is already the largest prison population on the planet with people accused of these petty charges by the morality police.

Drug possession is about more than just morality. Drug users that are not in full possession of their faculties can be a danger to others, depending on the drug they're on.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

Stupid advice! He should leave everything that he has ever known and be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life? Think this through.
Anti drug? The Op admited he is adicted to drugs. Now you want him to leave the country and raise his child in an environment where it is OK to get yourself adicted to drugs?
What are you smoking?

Why is everything black and white with you religious zealots? The Opie has a PRESCRIPTION to pain killers (and yes, is addicted--not hard to do from what i read), his wife is a very infrequent recreational user. What is it with you religious nuts that makes you think EVERYONE should live a "holy, pious, god-fearing" life? What is it? I dont subscribe to your view of the world, does that mean i should be in jail? The Opie doesnt subscribe to your view of the world, nor does his wife. To you, this means, "burn them at the stake," right? Youre about 1500-1000 years behind the times. It would really do you some good to get out and experience, learn, and develop as a human being before attempting to FORCE your false morality on others. That hangover from that 6 year party has really got you peeved, eh?

Calm down there body. I am not religious. Addiction to oxicotone can kill you. oxicotone should not be taken unless you have a need for it.

:disgust:

 

[Flyback]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: IeraseU
Drugs should all be legal, every single one. I don't see the need to increase what is already the largest prison population on the planet with people accused of these petty charges by the morality police.

Drug possession is about more than just morality. Drug users that are not in full possession of their faculties can be a danger to others, depending on the drug they're on.

Innocent until proven guilty. Drug users can manage their recreational activities just fine and integrate with society.

He should have the freedom to choose and be treated like a criminal only if he commits a crime that hurts others.

Do or would you advise we seek to stop people from buying alcohol because they lose their "faculties" and "can" be a danger?

Freedom is something we should never give up.

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Thank your stars you're not in Arizona. I'm aware of a number of people doing 4 years for same.

How about thank your stars your not in New York.
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[everman]

Regardless of what your view and opinion is about drug use, don't do something unless you're prepared to face the consequences. Perhaps your getting caught now has prevented something far worse from happening in the future, had you not been caught.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: IeraseU
Drugs should all be legal, every single one. I don't see the need to increase what is already the largest prison population on the planet with people accused of these petty charges by the morality police.

Drug possession is about more than just morality. Drug users that are not in full possession of their faculties can be a danger to others, depending on the drug they're on.

The only thing you got right was that drug possession IS more than just morality. It's about the power of the group over the individual.

Potentiality!=Actuality

The pine cone is not equal to a tree,.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: everman
Regardless of what your view and opinion is about drug use, don't do something unless you're prepared to face the consequences. Perhaps your getting caught now has prevented something far worse from happening in the future, had you not been caught.

What if perhaps he accomplishes something great? Say, raise his kid in peace?

 

[MobileLoser]

and I thought my life was messed up...

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

Stupid advice! He should leave everything that he has ever known and be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life? Think this through.
Anti drug? The Op admited he is adicted to drugs. Now you want him to leave the country and raise his child in an environment where it is OK to get yourself adicted to drugs?
What are you smoking?

Why is everything black and white with you religious zealots? The Opie has a PRESCRIPTION to pain killers (and yes, is addicted--not hard to do from what i read), his wife is a very infrequent recreational user. What is it with you religious nuts that makes you think EVERYONE should live a "holy, pious, god-fearing" life? What is it? I dont subscribe to your view of the world, does that mean i should be in jail? The Opie doesnt subscribe to your view of the world, nor does his wife. To you, this means, "burn them at the stake," right? Youre about 1500-1000 years behind the times. It would really do you some good to get out and experience, learn, and develop as a human being before attempting to FORCE your false morality on others. That hangover from that 6 year party has really got you peeved, eh?

Calm down there body. I am not religious. Addiction to oxicotone can kill you. oxicotone should not be taken unless you have a need for it.

:disgust:

You dont even know the drug the Opie is talking about. The fact that you buy into the nonsense that "oxicotone" (its Oxycodone and oxycontin, one is about 4 hours of pain relief, the other 8 hours) is deadly just proves your IGNORANCE. Youre absolute and utterly ignorant. Opioids do not kill (edit: disclaimer, they can kill, but kill very few regular using addicts), this is why you see OLD heroin addicts. Seriously, do some reading and get a little education before making blanket statements. Your ignorance is profound. Your stupid, myopic, idiotic, religious agenda is obvious.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: IeraseU
Drugs should all be legal, every single one. I don't see the need to increase what is already the largest prison population on the planet with people accused of these petty charges by the morality police.

Drug possession is about more than just morality. Drug users that are not in full possession of their faculties can be a danger to others, depending on the drug they're on.

The only thing you got right was that drug possession IS more than just morality. It's about the power of the group over the individual.

Potentiality!=Actuality

The pine cone is not equal to a tree,.

I think in a lot of cases it's a determination made by statistics. Is there a greater than acceptable chance that a person taking drug x will endanger others?

That does call alcohol into question, and it also presses on the restrictions made to less harmful drugs, but I never said that the current system was good or perfect, just that it's not morality based.

Forget morality, the current system, like most other systems, is driven by precedents, for right or wrong.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Flyback
The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.

Stupid advice! He should leave everything that he has ever known and be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life? Think this through.
Anti drug? The Op admited he is adicted to drugs. Now you want him to leave the country and raise his child in an environment where it is OK to get yourself adicted to drugs?
What are you smoking?

Why is everything black and white with you religious zealots? The Opie has a PRESCRIPTION to pain killers (and yes, is addicted--not hard to do from what i read), his wife is a very infrequent recreational user. What is it with you religious nuts that makes you think EVERYONE should live a "holy, pious, god-fearing" life? What is it? I dont subscribe to your view of the world, does that mean i should be in jail? The Opie doesnt subscribe to your view of the world, nor does his wife. To you, this means, "burn them at the stake," right? Youre about 1500-1000 years behind the times. It would really do you some good to get out and experience, learn, and develop as a human being before attempting to FORCE your false morality on others. That hangover from that 6 year party has really got you peeved, eh?

Calm down there body. I am not religious. Addiction to oxicotone can kill you. oxicotone should not be taken unless you have a need for it.

:disgust:

You dont even know the drug the Opie is talking about. The fact that you buy into the nonsense that "oxicotone" (its Oxycodone and oxycontin, one is about 4 hours of pain relief, the other 8 hours) is deadly just proves your IGNORANCE. Youre absolute and utter ignorance. Opioids do not kill (edit: disclaimer, they can kill, but kill very few regular using addicts), this is why you see OLD heroin addicts. Seriously, do some reading and get a little education before making blanket statements. Your ignorance is profound. Your stupid, myopic, idiotic, religious agenda is obvious.

It's possible to have an agenda and/or opinion and still not be religious, you know.

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: chris7b
That is unfortunate, especially with a wife and kid. But, this could be a benficial experience for you turn your life around.

here comes the judgemental crowd :roll:

I don't think that was a judgemental statement. now if he had said "Boy that was pretty stupid to participate in a drug deal right in front of your place of employement.", then that could be construed as a judgemental statement.

it wasnt even a drug deal...

it's a guy that comes into my work to get computer work done all the time...

he just gave them to me, i dont even take them....thought my wife might like them.. he just handed them to me and said here try these out.. next thing i know there's an officer running towards us telling us to not move....searches us both...finds the pills...finds his prescription bottle with more of the same pills in it..

carted us off to jail....

he got distribution of a dangerous drug..i got posession of a dangerous drug.. there wasnt any money exchanged or anything..

Wow, you're a great father. You bought drugs to give to your wife who just had a baby 8 months ago.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: HotChic
It's possible to have an agenda and/or opinion and still not be religious, you know.

And the religious right has now raised its head. MORALITY should not be legislated. I am a HUMAN. I have no agenda, im also an atheist which means i have no moral agenda. You have made it clear that youre a religious xian and with that you have a MORAL agenda. My "agenda" is humancentric. If it doesnt harm others "feel free." Like it or not, your "morality" will be obsolete by the time youre a great grandmother. Your "morality" offends much of the world, i have none. I am human, i think people should be allowed the freedom to be human without antiquated, stupid constructs. You embrace these constructs, i have no intent to infringe on those freedoms, but you should NOT force those false constructs on me or others.

 

[StormRider]

Here's what Wikipedia says about the drug you bought for your wife:

Sedation and hypnosis are the principal side effects of phenobarbital. Central nervous system effects like dizziness, nystagmus and ataxia are also common. In elderly patients, it may cause excitement and confusion while in children, it may result in paradoxical hyperactivity.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: homercles337
You dont even know the drug the Opie is talking about. The fact that you buy into the nonsense that "oxicotone" (its Oxycodone and oxycontin, one is about 4 hours of pain relief, the other 8 hours) is deadly just proves your IGNORANCE. Youre absolute and utterly ignorant. Opioids do not kill (edit: disclaimer, they can kill, but kill very few regular using addicts), this is why you see OLD heroin addicts. Seriously, do some reading and get a little education before making blanket statements. Your ignorance is profound. Your stupid, myopic, idiotic, religious agenda is obvious.

The death rate of people who use opioids is disproportionately high compared with that of people who use other IV drugs such as cocaine and phencyclidine (PCP). Heroin overdose comprises a substantial component of opioid-related mortality. Most deaths occur among IV heroin addicts in their late 20s or early 30s who have used heroin for 5-10 years. A recent period of abstinence may reduce tolerance and increase risk of overdose, and addicts have a 7-fold risk of overdosing in the first 2 weeks after leaving a residential treatment program.

Violence associated with buying or selling narcotics also causes mortalities. In some areas of the United States, death rates from drug-related violence are higher than death rates associated with overdose or HIV.

Screening tests for hepatitis A, B, and C are positive in up to 90% of IV heroin users. HIV infection is also very common in this population, with rates as high as 60% among heroin users in some areas of the United States.

Maybe you should do some reading.