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Exodor

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Originally posted by: JD50
Do you think that an 8 month old should be in a home with an alcoholic mother and father?

Do you think that its a mature thing to do to put yourself in a situation that you know will get you put in jail when you have a family to support?

Do you think everyone who breaks the law at any time should have their children removed?

How about speeders - not only do they break the law but they risk their lives (and the lives of everyone else on the road). Should they lose their kids?

What about casual drinkers? You seem to condemn the OP because of the potential of endangering the child - doesn't the same danger exist when mommy & daddy have a few too many at the neighbor's barbeque?



I think unless you can show that the child is in immediate danger the state should butt the hell out of people's lives.
 

Aimster

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removing a child doesn't always help the child.
putting a child in a foster home is.. well traumatizing.
 

DarkThinker

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: chris7b
That is unfortunate, especially with a wife and kid. But, this could be a benficial experience for you turn your life around.

:thumbsup:
I hope you can beat that adiction otherwyse its all DOWNHILL from now.

Good luck.
 

JD50

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Exodor
Originally posted by: JD50
Do you think that an 8 month old should be in a home with an alcoholic mother and father?

Do you think that its a mature thing to do to put yourself in a situation that you know will get you put in jail when you have a family to support?

Do you think everyone who breaks the law at any time should have their children removed?

How about speeders - not only do they break the law but they risk their lives (and the lives of everyone else on the road). Should they lose their kids?

What about casual drinkers? You seem to condemn the OP because of the potential of endangering the child - doesn't the same danger exist when mommy & daddy have a few too many at the neighbor's barbeque?



I think unless you can show that the child is in immediate danger the state should butt the hell out of people's lives.


Ok, let me spell this out for you. If you have a child, you should not do something that you know will get you locked up. Feel free to drive 70 in a 60, you aren't going to jail for that, going 100 in a 60 is a little different and is a pretty dumb thing to do.

Yes I am saying that you are not a good parent if you are a drug addict. There is a big difference between being a drug addict like the OP and having a drink or two on Friday night.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: Exodor
Originally posted by: JD50
While I don't agree with the illegality of most drugs in our country, people like the OP that have kids and still behave like this can FOAD for all I care. Especially when you said "thought my wife might like them". If your wife is into drugs as well, I hope they take your kid and put him/her in a good home.

When you don't have any kids I could care less, do all the drugs you want. But when you become a parent and you have another life depending on you, you need to grow up.



Should the state remove children from families with alcoholic parents? absolutely

Or does "growing up" only apply to illegal drugs?absolutely not

For once I agree with MAME
There are those of us who cope with the stress of day to day life without getting drunk or high.

IMO if you cant live without an addiction to any chemical substance then you deserve no sympathy for whatever comes your path.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: IeraseU
Drugs should all be legal, every single one. I don't see the need to increase what is already the largest prison population on the planet with people accused of these petty charges by the morality police.

And you should be hit by an intoxicated motorist.

or have your house broken into by a meth addicted homeless person.
 

TheDro

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Do whatever you can to get out of the country, take your family, and go south of the border and catch a flight to Germany and start over from there. Even if you lose everything you have, at least you'll still have your wife and kid and freedom.
 

Number1

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Feb 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
Originally posted by: crt1530
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
anyone who wants to say they hope i rot in jail...

think about the illegal mp3's you have on your machine...that's a federal offense...worse then what i did.
MP3s don't leave you stoned when your baby is crying because you haven't fed it all day.

and it's still a bigger crime than what i've commited.

Tell that to your child and employer. You are so full of sh1t its not even funny. Hope you rot in jail because I think you need it.

And you're a douchebag.

Why? Dickhead!
 

Nutdotnet

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1. Most of these guys have no idea what they are talking about.
2. You screwed up by admiting you did anything wrong. They busted you with pills. Ok. Fine. Did you know EXACTLY what they were and what they could do? If your friend said, "Here, take these" and you take them from him you can plead ignorance. Would it work? Maybe, maybe not. But to just flat out admit that you were in the wrong is silliness.
3. Next time, don't do this type of crap in public!
 

PrelateBishop

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You're selfish, but you already knew that. Everyone makes poor choices, now you have to deal with the consequences.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: TheDro
Do whatever you can to get out of the country, take your family, and go south of the border and catch a flight to Germany and start over from there. Even if you lose everything you have, at least you'll still have your wife and kid and freedom.

That is some of the most retarded advice i have seen. sure pack up teh family and leave the country. Over something that he has a chance at probation or a few years tops of jail . wich he can get out early if he is good.


as others said he needs to get a lawyer, get into rehab and stay clean.
 

TheDro

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TheDro
Do whatever you can to get out of the country, take your family, and go south of the border and catch a flight to Germany and start over from there. Even if you lose everything you have, at least you'll still have your wife and kid and freedom.

That is some of the most retarded advice i have seen. sure pack up teh family and leave the country. Over something that he has a chance at probation or a few years tops of jail . wich he can get out early if he is good.


as others said he needs to get a lawyer, get into rehab and stay clean.

Even paying top dollar for the best lawyer in town won't guarantee he'll still have his job, employers kind of frown away from hiring people with drug convictions on their record.
 

Number1

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Feb 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: TheDro
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TheDro
Do whatever you can to get out of the country, take your family, and go south of the border and catch a flight to Germany and start over from there. Even if you lose everything you have, at least you'll still have your wife and kid and freedom.




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Your advice doesn?t make sense. He would be a fugitive from the law for the rest of his life. Better get a good lawyer, sober up and start anew.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: Luthien
Sorry, man that is messed up.

If the judge sentences you to a 12 step program tell him as politely as you can NO, I am not religious and I am not going to be proselytized into a belief in god as a requisite for breaking my addiction. I am absolutely interested in a secular program your honor, etc.
Well, last time I checked, that's not an option.
There is plenty to learn from the 12 steps without getting hung up on the "higher power" aspect.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: TheDro
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TheDro
Do whatever you can to get out of the country, take your family, and go south of the border and catch a flight to Germany and start over from there. Even if you lose everything you have, at least you'll still have your wife and kid and freedom.

That is some of the most retarded advice i have seen. sure pack up teh family and leave the country. Over something that he has a chance at probation or a few years tops of jail . wich he can get out early if he is good.


as others said he needs to get a lawyer, get into rehab and stay clean.

Even paying top dollar for the best lawyer in town won't guarantee he'll still have his job, employers kind of frown away from hiring people with drug convictions on their record.

so? thats something he should have though of before he did it.

a lawyer is not to keep the job. thats to keep his ass out of jail.
 

akubi

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well, look at the bright side... you'll never have constipation problems after you get out of prison.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: Luthien
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You can sue the court for this btw. The government is illegally sanctioning religion by sentencing people to 12 stepping.
You're an idiot.
Arm chair lawyer, to boot.
Tell you what, if you're so sure about that, YOU DO IT!

NO?
Thought so.


 

Chunkee

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Originally posted by: zanejohnson
looks like i'll probably being going to jaill..


just bailed out this afternoon, got caught with drugs.

i had it all going for me, good job, good woman, 8 month old daughter..


i made a terrible mistake, dont do it you guys, it's not worth it...

i've been addicted to hydrocodone/oxycodone for a long time, it finally caught up with me... god i feel like such an asshole...

i was supposed to go on vacation on the first..

i was on probation for a misdemeaner marijauna charge, now this..i dont know how long i'll have to serve, but im sure it wont be a short sentence, probably a year or so...

just needing to vent..

Can you afford an attorney? If you are really serious about getting help and stopping...? Plead to the court...get in rehab...etc... Explain to your work, apologize to family and get on with your life in a forward direction...quit painting the picture black, buck up and do something to change your life in a positive way..

jC
 

AlienCraft

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Nov 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
1. Most of these guys have no idea what they are talking about.
2. You screwed up by admiting you did anything wrong. They busted you with pills. Ok. Fine. Did you know EXACTLY what they were and what they could do? If your friend said, "Here, take these" and you take them from him you can plead ignorance. Would it work? Maybe, maybe not. But to just flat out admit that you were in the wrong is silliness.
3. Next time, don't do this type of crap in public!


Best advice yet.
 

Wheezer

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Nov 2, 1999
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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
1. Most of these guys have no idea what they are talking about.
2. You screwed up by admiting you did anything wrong. They busted you with pills. Ok. Fine. Did you know EXACTLY what they were and what they could do? If your friend said, "Here, take these" and you take them from him you can plead ignorance. Would it work? Maybe, maybe not. But to just flat out admit that you were in the wrong is silliness.
3. Next time, don't do this type of crap in public!


Best advice yet.

really? how about taking responsibility for his actions, facing the music and perhaps stopping his drug use?

1. Most of these guys have no idea what they are talking about.

It does not take someone who drinks to understand that drinking and driving is wrong.

You don't have to be a convicted killer to understand that murder is wrong.

It also does not take a drug user to use common sense to say that raising a child in an environment where both parents use drugs (routinely apparently) is NOT a good idea.
 

Flyback

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The anti-drug crowd is pretty lively tonight.

You should give some serious consideration to leaving if you have to spend time over this. Consult with a few different lawyers first and get a realistic assessment of what you're facing. If you had to spend anything more than 6 months I'd advise you to take the opportunity to relocate. It will doubly benefit your child to raise them in a more progressive environment. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

Life is too short to sit in the can for nonsensical reasons. You admitted you are addicted so you should still seek help for that wherever you end up.