Take a semester off to think about things. I bombed a semester due to depression, (later I managed to get the grades deleted with a doctor's note), took a semester and a summer off to work, went back to school, and now I'm back on track. Granted, I BARELY passed a course this semester with a D-, and had to drop another (which I'm retaking now) but the fact of the matter is I didn't give up. Don't be a wussy penis-head and put some effort into it.
UDT89
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man you people have no clue............
There are MANY more important things to college than the classes. You just have to master the technique of getting B's and C's without going to class that much. I got it down to an exact science.
I graduate in May, took me 4 years. Considering today's youth and from what i've seen, 4 years is above average now. This being my last semester i'd say i went to 30% of the classes and passed all 4 of them with one A.
I should write a book.
There are MANY more important things to college than the classes. You just have to master the technique of getting B's and C's without going to class that much. I got it down to an exact science.
I graduate in May, took me 4 years. Considering today's youth and from what i've seen, 4 years is above average now. This being my last semester i'd say i went to 30% of the classes and passed all 4 of them with one A.
I should write a book.
it's not the end of the world.. either reduce your work hours, or reduce your school units.. and put alittle more effort/time in studying.. and work from there.. once grades start to get better, maybe increase your school load little by little but keep it manageable. dont overload yourself with so many classes that it's impossible to study for all of them.. some people dont have problems taking tons of hard classes without any trouble, then there are some of us that do.. nothing wrong with that..
did you change anything (like study habits/work schedule, etc) after your 1st semester failing a class?
i would consider going to your school counselor and talk about how/what you can do to improve next semester. isnt that what they're there for anyways? to give you advice? good luck.
did you change anything (like study habits/work schedule, etc) after your 1st semester failing a class?
i would consider going to your school counselor and talk about how/what you can do to improve next semester. isnt that what they're there for anyways? to give you advice? good luck.
<< man you people have no clue............
There are MANY more important things to college than the classes. You just have to master the technique of getting B's and C's without going to class that much. I got it down to an exact science.
I graduate in May, took me 4 years. Considering today's youth and from what i've seen, 4 years is above average now. This being my last semester i'd say i went to 30% of the classes and passed all 4 of them with one A.
I should write a book. >>
first of all, this isn't about you... so stop being so ego-centric and touting your horn. second, if you can do that... more power to you. finally, everyone has a different style of learning, you have mastered your, but will you master others?
i.e. i'm good at learning by myself, i don't need to go to class too much either. i've been sent to a training course from my company in something i'm not really interested in learning. the last ones were solaris, this one is about the mac. the guy is teaching very slowly because one guy can't really handle it and i'm dying there, but i still remain respectful (to an extent). my point is, if you were in my shoes now, how would you take it? by the way, you can't just walk out of the class, they will report you up your food chain if you aren't there on time, every time.
shiner
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<< My guess is that you are not as good as most people at being dead, and long burried emotional issues that most people successfully avoid ever knowing they have, are in your case bubbling to the surface. Maybe you have begun to see that everything is totally meaningless and that the world is upside down. If so, it would help if you could get yourself into a position where you can explore and face the domons that haunt our inner world. It's an unfortunate fact that the door to paradice is at the end of a journey through hell. One thing that may be of some use is the certain knowledge that at core, you are God's image and only feel, incorrectly, that you are a piece of crap. The hidden belief in the lie of our worthlessness is our one and only real enemy. Have yourself a nice funeral and find yourself reborn. The only thing that dies are illusions. >>
Why is it that every time Moonbeam posts I hear the music from Twilight Zone?
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i.e. i'm good at learning by myself, i don't need to go to class too much either. i've been sent to a training course from my company in something i'm not really interested in learning. the last ones were solaris, this one is about the mac. the guy is teaching very slowly because one guy can't really handle it and i'm dying there, but i still remain respectful (to an extent). my point is, if you were in my shoes now, how would you take it? by the way, you can't just walk out of the class, they will report you up your food chain if you aren't there on time, every time. >>
why is the teacher slowing down for this guy?
i cant spell so i'll just dumb down my communications
bugsysiegel
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<< why is the teacher slowing down for this guy? >>
because as a teacher, you have to be as diplomatic as possible. for example, after we finish these classes, we're ALL supposed to be able to know how to use and diagnose a MAC. if only i knew how to do it, the credibility of the teacher would be shattered. also, this is a weeklong class. how would it look if he was dismissing us HOURS early everyday? he will take additional flack from managers saying, they sent their guys over for a week when it really takes 3 days to complete the course.
the job of a teacher is to accomodate both the fast learners and the slow learners. this isn't always possible so the teacher would go into intricate details and slow down to each group, respectively. depending on how good a teacher (s)he is, all their students learn and retain the material.
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<< I dont feel bad for you about that. Its your own fault. >>
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I didn't come in here for anyone to feel bad for me. I came in here maybe looking for advice, maybe just letting out my emotions...who knows?
Schadenfreude
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Big deal . . . this is my third semester and I ended up at a state school because of my GPA (my ACT score was on the top 5%) . . ..
Wait a sec, why am I gloating?
Wait a sec, why am I gloating?
<< I didn't come in here for anyone to feel bad for me. I came in here maybe looking for advice, maybe just letting out my emotions...who knows? >>
My advice is not to give up studying. I think it will be very useful for you.
Azraele
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<< I didn't come in here for anyone to feel bad for me. I came in here maybe looking for advice, maybe just letting out my emotions...who knows? >>
My advice to you: Take a step back and look at yourself, your grades, your goals, hopes, and dreams. Figure out why and how you got into the position you are in now so as to avoid it in the future.
didn't russ make a thread titled "my life is over" and complained about his "girlfriend" dumping him, his "neighbor" being a ricer, and which way t.t. should be used?
Your life isn't over. That and don't give up on college just because you had two bad semesters. You just need to re-evaluate your time and goals. I've had two bad semesters here in college where I've already fallen a semester behind. I know that it was my fault and I need to get better about things. Put some time and effort into it and you'll be able to do it. Finding a higher paying job without an education is a bitch. Remember that.
i may be lazy...
but at least i am smart =)
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you poor bastard...
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listen to timothy's advice =)
GL man, things will turn out okay =)
but at least i am smart =)
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you poor bastard...
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listen to timothy's advice =)
GL man, things will turn out okay =)
<< I ended up at a state school
state schools are not that bad... uc berkeley come to mind. >>
State schools are overlooked many times. I am going to enter Western IL this next fall and study Criminal Justice, and believe me when I say that their criminal Justice program rivals that of any ivy-league school.
As for zayened, stick with it man. Don't give up. Use those F's as a point to turn things around, prove to yourself that you can do better, because I am sure you can. Don't worry about everyone else, just think about what you THINK you can do, and go do it. The power of belief can go a long way.
I was there too, and I thought my life was over too. I can totally relate man. And I have two words for you: correspondence course. seriously. read on.
I graduated 10th in my class (out of 300) from high school, scored a 730 in math on my SATs, headed to college with a 4-year Navy ROTC scholarship. Very first semester there, I failed Calc I. It wasn't that I wasn't smart, just "burnt out" if you want to call it that...just didn't feel like doing anything (study, go to class, etc). Long story short, failed Calc I & II at least 4 or 5 times combined I think. After 2 years in college, I was dropped from Navy ROTC due to poor scholarship. I thought the following semester would be my turning point, since I didn't have ROTC resposibilities to worry about, which I figured would leave me more time for my studies. wrong! That semester was when my college career hit rock bottom. I got a 0.93 GPA that fall semester, and the day before Christmas, I got a letter from the university stating that I was being dropped from full-time degree status. Merry Christmas.
So, that spring semester I spent at home, working as a grocery store clerk/stockboy. That was my wake-up call, realizing that if I didn't do something, I'd end up stuck in a job like this for the rest of my life. I was still able to take classes from the university, so I signed up for Calc I as a correspondence course. Best thing I could have ever done.
See, with the regular calc classes, the course grade was composed of like 80% or so from the 3 exams (2 midterms and the final), and the remaining 20% from a couple quizzes during the semester. 0% of the grade was based on homework, in other words, no homework was ever due. This was what killed me in the regular classes, I just never did any homework, never kept up with where we were in the book. In contrast to this, the couse grade for correspondence course was based like 50-75% on the regular homework assignments that I'd mail in. Well, this worked great for me. Since I knew the homework was weighted so heavily like that, I put a lot of time into it, and got excellent grades for my assignments. A "side result" of the time I spent on my homework was that my exam scores reflected it. Through correspondence courses, I ended up getting an A in Calc I and a B+ in Calc II. I went for summer session classes that summer, and earned re-admittance into the degree program for the fall semester.
I graduated from Penn State 7 years ago now, with a BS in Computer Science. I've been working as a programmer/software-engineer for the past 7 years, and let me tell you, it sure beats stocking shelves or being a cashier at the local supermarket.
Don't give up man. I didn't, and you shouldn't either. Find something to motivate you (the idea that I didn't want to be a stock clerk the rest of my life is what motivated me). Maybe look into correspondence courses (hey, it might work for you, unless you really don't think so). Your life is not over, just like my life was not really over either.
Seriously, I hope my own story helps you a little.
-hudster
I graduated 10th in my class (out of 300) from high school, scored a 730 in math on my SATs, headed to college with a 4-year Navy ROTC scholarship. Very first semester there, I failed Calc I. It wasn't that I wasn't smart, just "burnt out" if you want to call it that...just didn't feel like doing anything (study, go to class, etc). Long story short, failed Calc I & II at least 4 or 5 times combined I think. After 2 years in college, I was dropped from Navy ROTC due to poor scholarship. I thought the following semester would be my turning point, since I didn't have ROTC resposibilities to worry about, which I figured would leave me more time for my studies. wrong! That semester was when my college career hit rock bottom. I got a 0.93 GPA that fall semester, and the day before Christmas, I got a letter from the university stating that I was being dropped from full-time degree status. Merry Christmas.
So, that spring semester I spent at home, working as a grocery store clerk/stockboy. That was my wake-up call, realizing that if I didn't do something, I'd end up stuck in a job like this for the rest of my life. I was still able to take classes from the university, so I signed up for Calc I as a correspondence course. Best thing I could have ever done.
See, with the regular calc classes, the course grade was composed of like 80% or so from the 3 exams (2 midterms and the final), and the remaining 20% from a couple quizzes during the semester. 0% of the grade was based on homework, in other words, no homework was ever due. This was what killed me in the regular classes, I just never did any homework, never kept up with where we were in the book. In contrast to this, the couse grade for correspondence course was based like 50-75% on the regular homework assignments that I'd mail in. Well, this worked great for me. Since I knew the homework was weighted so heavily like that, I put a lot of time into it, and got excellent grades for my assignments. A "side result" of the time I spent on my homework was that my exam scores reflected it. Through correspondence courses, I ended up getting an A in Calc I and a B+ in Calc II. I went for summer session classes that summer, and earned re-admittance into the degree program for the fall semester.
I graduated from Penn State 7 years ago now, with a BS in Computer Science. I've been working as a programmer/software-engineer for the past 7 years, and let me tell you, it sure beats stocking shelves or being a cashier at the local supermarket.
Don't give up man. I didn't, and you shouldn't either. Find something to motivate you (the idea that I didn't want to be a stock clerk the rest of my life is what motivated me). Maybe look into correspondence courses (hey, it might work for you, unless you really don't think so). Your life is not over, just like my life was not really over either.
Seriously, I hope my own story helps you a little.
-hudster
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<< I dont feel bad for you about that. Its your own fault. >>
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I didn't come in here for anyone to feel bad for me. I came in here maybe looking for advice, maybe just letting out my emotions...who knows? >>
maybe you should apply for a janatorial job at mcdonalds.
I know what this feels like. Don't listen to those in this thread that are calling you lazy, they have no idea what you're going through. I've been suffering from depression and other personal problems recently. One semester I withdrew from two classes, last semester I withdrew completely due to extreme lack of interest.
I would say don't listen to these people that say you HAVE to go to college. You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. You can do whatever you want to do. You should feel empowered. It's your life. You shouldn't have to force yourself to be motivated, you should naturally feel taht way. If you want to be a stock clerk for the rest of your life (however doubtable that is), you can have it that way. There's nothing wrong with taking a break from college. I'm glad I did it. I was signed up for a bunch of courses that I didn't want to take. Now when I go back this summer or fall I will be taking computer science courses, which interest me more than the political science and English courses I was signed up for, and most certainly the supermarket job I have.
It sounds to me like you want to just work rather than take classes. That's fine. If you feel you want to go back, you can go back. You may quickly find yourself motivated to go back. Let's look at it this way, do you want to suffer more emotional anguish and bomb another semester and THEN drop out? Not only would you be causing yourself unneccessary pain, but you'd be wasting your time.
I would say don't listen to these people that say you HAVE to go to college. You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. You can do whatever you want to do. You should feel empowered. It's your life. You shouldn't have to force yourself to be motivated, you should naturally feel taht way. If you want to be a stock clerk for the rest of your life (however doubtable that is), you can have it that way. There's nothing wrong with taking a break from college. I'm glad I did it. I was signed up for a bunch of courses that I didn't want to take. Now when I go back this summer or fall I will be taking computer science courses, which interest me more than the political science and English courses I was signed up for, and most certainly the supermarket job I have.
It sounds to me like you want to just work rather than take classes. That's fine. If you feel you want to go back, you can go back. You may quickly find yourself motivated to go back. Let's look at it this way, do you want to suffer more emotional anguish and bomb another semester and THEN drop out? Not only would you be causing yourself unneccessary pain, but you'd be wasting your time.
I rarely understand Moonbeam's posts, but I think I understand most of this one, and agree with it.
<< My guess is that you are not as good as most people at being dead, and long burried emotional issues that most people successfully avoid ever knowing they have, are in your case bubbling to the surface. Maybe you have begun to see that everything is totally meaningless and that the world is upside down. If so, it would help if you could get yourself into a position where you can explore and face the domons that haunt our inner world. It's an unfortunate fact that the door to paradice is at the end of a journey through hell. One thing that may be of some use is the certain knowledge that at core, you are God's image and only feel, incorrectly, that you are a piece of crap. The hidden belief in the lie of our worthlessness is our one and only real enemy. Have yourself a nice funeral and find yourself reborn. The only thing that dies are illusions. >>
Well said.
<< My guess is that you are not as good as most people at being dead, and long burried emotional issues that most people successfully avoid ever knowing they have, are in your case bubbling to the surface. Maybe you have begun to see that everything is totally meaningless and that the world is upside down. If so, it would help if you could get yourself into a position where you can explore and face the domons that haunt our inner world. It's an unfortunate fact that the door to paradice is at the end of a journey through hell. One thing that may be of some use is the certain knowledge that at core, you are God's image and only feel, incorrectly, that you are a piece of crap. The hidden belief in the lie of our worthlessness is our one and only real enemy. Have yourself a nice funeral and find yourself reborn. The only thing that dies are illusions. >>
Well said.
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