My itec professor is a genius

[randay]

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MrPickins
You need to get off the name thing...

RAID0 is not a true RAID. Nothing is redundant. If you think so, you may need to read the definition of redundant again.

I suppose you could technically call it "AID."

The physical disk drives are redundant. Thats why its called RAID!

Again, the array is what is redundant, not the disks: Redundant Array of Independent/Inexpensive Disks.

An Array of WHAT?

If it were an array of dingleberries, it'd STILL be the array that is redundant.

CORRECT! as long as there are more then one dingleberry! And what do those dingleberries contain? Well it doesnt matter because it'd still be an array that is redundant. yay! (even though I think youre being sarcastic and still dont get it)

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: WhoBeDaPlaya

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
You must be a hit with the ladies.

How hard is your hard drive? Okay, I'll shut up now :laugh:

he has a floppy drive. 3.5" at that.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: randay
Like I said, I follow standards. I don't make up my own.

Whatever you think the "standard" is has nothing to do with your warped definition that no real tech would agree with. Every book and guide and definition of RAID 0 states that it offers no redundancy. Show me a reliable source that says that RAID 0 offers redundancy, regardless of the acronym name. The originators of the RAID definition didn't even include RAID 0.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

you did not even answer his question.....

What question?

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MrPickins
You need to get off the name thing...

RAID0 is not a true RAID. Nothing is redundant. If you think so, you may need to read the definition of redundant again.

I suppose you could technically call it "AID."

The physical disk drives are redundant. Thats why its called RAID!

Again, the array is what is redundant, not the disks: Redundant Array of Independent/Inexpensive Disks.

An Array of WHAT?

If it were an array of dingleberries, it'd STILL be the array that is redundant.

CORRECT! as long as there are more then one dingleberry! And what do those dingleberries contain? Well it doesnt matter because it'd still be an array that is redundant. yay! (even though I think youre being sarcastic and still dont get it)

I do "get it", as do thousands of Web sites. You are the only one who is disagreeing with me as well as those sites and the other users on here.

EDIT: No, I'm not being sarcastic... I'm trying to show you where your self-made definition is incorrect.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay
Like I said, I follow standards. I don't make up my own.

Whatever you think the "standard" is has nothing to do with your warped definition that no real tech would agree with. Every book and guide and definition of RAID 0 states that it offers no redundancy. Show me a reliable source that says that RAID 0 offers redundancy, regardless of the acronym name. The originators of the RAID definition didn't even include RAID 0.

I am not/have not disputed the fact that RAID level 0 does not offer fault tolerance.

RAID level 0 is a standardized RAID level and is referred to as RAID 0 and not AID 0.

 

[SSSnail]

RAID is not redundant at all, I used some the other day and the roaches still runs around. That is until I use RAID MAX, lemme tell ya, that's some redundant stuffs. Not only it got rid of the roaches, knocked the neighbor's cat out cold as well.

I approve RAID MAX. :thumbsup:

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay
Like I said, I follow standards. I don't make up my own.

Whatever you think the "standard" is has nothing to do with your warped definition that no real tech would agree with. Every book and guide and definition of RAID 0 states that it offers no redundancy. Show me a reliable source that says that RAID 0 offers redundancy, regardless of the acronym name. The originators of the RAID definition didn't even include RAID 0.

I am not/have not disputed the fact that RAID level 0 does not offer fault tolerance.

RAID level 0 is a standardized RAID level and is referred to as RAID 0 and not AID 0.

My quote above doesn't mention fault tolerance. I said that no definition of RAID mentions that RAID 0 offers redundancy.

RAID 0 offers no redundancy: 34 hits
RAID 0 provides no redundancy: 27 hits
RAID 0 has no redundancy: 116 hits
RAID 0 is not redundant: 50 hits
"RAID 0" "no redundancy": 23,300 hits

On the other hand,

RAID 0 offers redundancy: 0 hits
RAID 0 provides redundancy: 2 hits, one of which says "RAID 5 is most common because it provides read performance comaparable to
RAID 0, provides redundancy, and only costs one of your drives", and the other which is incorrect because it says "RAID-0 provides redundancy of data via writing a separate copy to a separate location", which it does not.
RAID 0 has redundancy: 1 hit, which states, "Somehow I thought raid 0 has redundancy"
RAID 0 is redundant: 0 hits

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: randay
If one disk fails, the other disk still works.
If you have only one disk, if one disk fails, there are no other disks that still work.

from wikipedia

The term RAID was first defined by David A. Patterson, Garth A. Gibson and Randy Katz at the University of California, Berkeley in 1987.[2] They studied the possibility of using two or more disks to appear as a single device to the host system and published a paper: "A case for Redundant Arrays of Inexpensive Disks (RAID)" in June 1988 at the SIGMOD conference.

Wow... selfpwnage FTL. In RAID0 if one disk fails then the 2 disk single device has failed! Hence no redundancy!

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: randay
If one disk fails, the other disk still works.
If you have only one disk, if one disk fails, there are no other disks that still work.

from wikipedia

The term RAID was first defined by David A. Patterson, Garth A. Gibson and Randy Katz at the University of California, Berkeley in 1987.[2] They studied the possibility of using two or more disks to appear as a single device to the host system and published a paper: "A case for Redundant Arrays of Inexpensive Disks (RAID)" in June 1988 at the SIGMOD conference.

Wow... selfpwnage FTL. In RAID0 if one disk fails then the 2 disk single device has failed! Hence no redundancy!

Can I nominate him for the 2007 pwnage thread, or do I have to wait for an independent observer to do so?

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay
Like I said, I follow standards. I don't make up my own.

Whatever you think the "standard" is has nothing to do with your warped definition that no real tech would agree with. Every book and guide and definition of RAID 0 states that it offers no redundancy. Show me a reliable source that says that RAID 0 offers redundancy, regardless of the acronym name. The originators of the RAID definition didn't even include RAID 0.

I am not/have not disputed the fact that RAID level 0 does not offer fault tolerance.

RAID level 0 is a standardized RAID level and is referred to as RAID 0 and not AID 0.

My quote above doesn't mention fault tolerance. I said that no definition of RAID mentions that RAID 0 offers redundancy.

RAID 0 offers no redundancy: 34 hits
RAID 0 provides no redundancy: 27 hits
RAID 0 has no redundancy: 116 hits
RAID 0 is not redundant: 50 hits
"RAID 0" "no redundancy": 23,300 hits

On the other hand,

RAID 0 offers redundancy: 0 hits
RAID 0 provides redundancy: 2 hits, one of which says "RAID 5 is most common because it provides read performance comaparable to
RAID 0, provides redundancy, and only costs one of your drives", and the other which is incorrect because it says "RAID-0 provides redundancy of data via writing a separate copy to a separate location", which it does not.
RAID 0 has redundancy: 1 hit, which states, "Somehow I thought raid 0 has redundancy"
RAID 0 is redundant: 0 hits

raid 0 offers no fault tolerance 42

raid 0 provides no fault tolerance 17

raid 0 has no fault tolerance 31

raid 0 is not fault tolerant 61

"RAID 0" "fault tolerance" 109,000

Whats your point anyway? this is the 3rd time I have to say this:

I AM NOT DISPUTING THE FACT THAT RAID 0 OFFERS NO FAULT TOLERANCE!!!

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: randay
Whats your point anyway? this is the 3rd time I have to say this:

I AM NOT DISPUTING THE FACT THAT RAID 0 OFFERS NO FAULT TOLERANCE!!!

Yet you still fail to qualify a "RAID0" as redundant. Thats is the point.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: randay
Whats your point anyway? this is the 3rd time I have to say this:

I AM NOT DISPUTING THE FACT THAT RAID 0 OFFERS NO FAULT TOLERANCE!!!

Yet you still fail to qualify a "RAID0" as redundant. Thats is the point.

"RAID0" is a level zero RAID.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: randay
Whats your point anyway? this is the 3rd time I have to say this:

I AM NOT DISPUTING THE FACT THAT RAID 0 OFFERS NO FAULT TOLERANCE!!!

Yet you still fail to qualify a "RAID0" as redundant. Thats is the point.

"RAID0" is a level zero RAID.

How does that address redundancy, as per the dictionary definition?

Edit:
In a related note, my horoscope in "The Onion" talked about how fun it is "flogging that dead horse."

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: randay
I did not drop out, I could sign up next semester and finish it if I wanted to. The class is from 12 noon to 3pm, I would have to take off a large chunk of time out from work. The prof is a senile(he strays from a subject and completely forgets to go back to it) old man teaching something I already have tons of real world experience(telecom) in and also is completely unrelated to my career goals. The degree I will get means nothing when put up against the 8 years of real IT experience I have. Basically I dont give a crap about the peice of paper, and Im happy that I actually had a few classes where I learned something.

Wow.... who sold you that load??
Let me tell you what your experience will get you. My father retired from the Air Force after doing coding and technical writing work for the better part of his 20 years in the service. Thats nearly 20 years of real world, on the job experience! But when he hit the civilian world he had a very hard time even getting companies to interview him. Why?? No college degree. Could he do the jobs he was applying for?? Absolutely! He could do them probably even better than the ones hired. Problem is you have to get past HR first. And HR is pre-programmed to look for college degrees and certifications. Those without them get their resume file 13'd.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay
Like I said, I follow standards. I don't make up my own.

Whatever you think the "standard" is has nothing to do with your warped definition that no real tech would agree with. Every book and guide and definition of RAID 0 states that it offers no redundancy. Show me a reliable source that says that RAID 0 offers redundancy, regardless of the acronym name. The originators of the RAID definition didn't even include RAID 0.

I am not/have not disputed the fact that RAID level 0 does not offer fault tolerance.

RAID level 0 is a standardized RAID level and is referred to as RAID 0 and not AID 0.

My quote above doesn't mention fault tolerance. I said that no definition of RAID mentions that RAID 0 offers redundancy.

RAID 0 offers no redundancy: 34 hits
RAID 0 provides no redundancy: 27 hits
RAID 0 has no redundancy: 116 hits
RAID 0 is not redundant: 50 hits
"RAID 0" "no redundancy": 23,300 hits

On the other hand,

RAID 0 offers redundancy: 0 hits
RAID 0 provides redundancy: 2 hits, one of which says "RAID 5 is most common because it provides read performance comaparable to
RAID 0, provides redundancy, and only costs one of your drives", and the other which is incorrect because it says "RAID-0 provides redundancy of data via writing a separate copy to a separate location", which it does not.
RAID 0 has redundancy: 1 hit, which states, "Somehow I thought raid 0 has redundancy"
RAID 0 is redundant: 0 hits

raid 0 offers no fault tolerance 42

raid 0 provides no fault tolerance 17

raid 0 has no fault tolerance 31

raid 0 is not fault tolerant 61

"RAID 0" "fault tolerance" 109,000

Whats your point anyway? this is the 3rd time I have to say this:

I AM NOT DISPUTING THE FACT THAT RAID 0 OFFERS NO FAULT TOLERANCE!!!

Again, I didn't say anything about fault-tolerance... I'm directly addressing your statement that RAID 0 is redundant. How is it redundant, and provide a link that states that RAID 0 is redundant, provides redundancy, offers redundancy, or gives any measure of redundancy (regardless of fault-tolerance).

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: randay
Whats your point anyway? this is the 3rd time I have to say this:

I AM NOT DISPUTING THE FACT THAT RAID 0 OFFERS NO FAULT TOLERANCE!!!

Yet you still fail to qualify a "RAID0" as redundant. Thats is the point.

"RAID0" is a level zero RAID.

How does that address redundancy, as per the dictionary definition?

Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks.

redundant

1. characterized by verbosity or unnecessary repetition in expressing ideas; prolix: a redundant style.
2. being in excess; exceeding what is usual or natural: a redundant part.
3. having some unusual or extra part or feature.
4. characterized by superabundance or superfluity: lush, redundant vegetation.
5. Engineering. a. (of a structural member) not necessary for resisting statically determined stresses.
b. (of a structure) having members designed to resist other than statically determined stresses; hyperstatic.
c. noting a complete truss having additional members for resisting eccentric loads. Compare complete (def. 8), incomplete (def. 3).
d. (of a device, circuit, computer system, etc.) having excess or duplicate parts that can continue to perform in the event of malfunction of some of the parts.
6. Linguistics. characterized by redundancy; predictable.
7. Computers. containing more bits or characters than are required, as a parity bit inserted for checking purposes.
8. Chiefly British. removed or laid off from a job.

array

?verb (used with object) 1. to place in proper or desired order; marshal: Napoleon arrayed his troops for battle.
2. to clothe with garments, esp. of an ornamental kind; dress up; deck out: She arrayed herself in furs and diamonds.
?noun 3. order or arrangement, as of troops drawn up for battle.
4. military force, esp. a body of troops.
5. a large and impressive grouping or organization of things: He couldn't dismiss the array of facts.
6. regular order or arrangement; series: an array of figures.
7. a large group, number, or quantity of people or things: an impressive array of scholars; an imposing array of books.
8. attire; dress: in fine array.
9. an arrangement of interrelated objects or items of equipment for accomplishing a particular task: thousands of solar cells in one vast array.
10. Mathematics, Statistics. a. an arrangement of a series of terms according to value, as from largest to smallest.
b. an arrangement of a series of terms in some geometric pattern, as in a matrix.
11. Computers. a block of related data elements, each of which is usually identified by one or more subscripts.
12. Radio. antenna array.

of Inexpensive Disks.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: randay
Whats your point anyway? this is the 3rd time I have to say this:

I AM NOT DISPUTING THE FACT THAT RAID 0 OFFERS NO FAULT TOLERANCE!!!

Yet you still fail to qualify a "RAID0" as redundant. Thats is the point.

"RAID0" is a level zero RAID.

How does that address redundancy, as per the dictionary definition?

Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks.

redundant

1. characterized by verbosity or unnecessary repetition in expressing ideas; prolix: a redundant style.
2. being in excess; exceeding what is usual or natural: a redundant part.
3. having some unusual or extra part or feature.
4. characterized by superabundance or superfluity: lush, redundant vegetation.
5. Engineering. a. (of a structural member) not necessary for resisting statically determined stresses.
b. (of a structure) having members designed to resist other than statically determined stresses; hyperstatic.
c. noting a complete truss having additional members for resisting eccentric loads. Compare complete (def. 8), incomplete (def. 3).
d. (of a device, circuit, computer system, etc.) having excess or duplicate parts that can continue to perform in the event of malfunction of some of the parts.
6. Linguistics. characterized by redundancy; predictable.
7. Computers. containing more bits or characters than are required, as a parity bit inserted for checking purposes.
8. Chiefly British. removed or laid off from a job.

array

?verb (used with object) 1. to place in proper or desired order; marshal: Napoleon arrayed his troops for battle.
2. to clothe with garments, esp. of an ornamental kind; dress up; deck out: She arrayed herself in furs and diamonds.
?noun 3. order or arrangement, as of troops drawn up for battle.
4. military force, esp. a body of troops.
5. a large and impressive grouping or organization of things: He couldn't dismiss the array of facts.
6. regular order or arrangement; series: an array of figures.
7. a large group, number, or quantity of people or things: an impressive array of scholars; an imposing array of books.
8. attire; dress: in fine array.
9. an arrangement of interrelated objects or items of equipment for accomplishing a particular task: thousands of solar cells in one vast array.
10. Mathematics, Statistics. a. an arrangement of a series of terms according to value, as from largest to smallest.
b. an arrangement of a series of terms in some geometric pattern, as in a matrix.
11. Computers. a block of related data elements, each of which is usually identified by one or more subscripts.
12. Radio. antenna array.

of Inexpensive Disks.

But, dude... per that definition, the array cannot function in the event of a malfunction of some of the parts!! Again, it is not an Array of Inexpensive Redundant Disks.

If you don't understand that the array is what is redundant, then I guess you will have to continue to disagree with every technical website and writer out there.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: randay
I did not drop out, I could sign up next semester and finish it if I wanted to. The class is from 12 noon to 3pm, I would have to take off a large chunk of time out from work. The prof is a senile(he strays from a subject and completely forgets to go back to it) old man teaching something I already have tons of real world experience(telecom) in and also is completely unrelated to my career goals. The degree I will get means nothing when put up against the 8 years of real IT experience I have. Basically I dont give a crap about the peice of paper, and Im happy that I actually had a few classes where I learned something.

Wow.... who sold you that load??
Let me tell you what your experience will get you. My father retired from the Air Force after doing coding and technical writing work for the better part of his 20 years in the service. Thats nearly 20 years of real world, on the job experience! But when he hit the civilian world he had a very hard time even getting companies to interview him. Why?? No college degree. Could he do the jobs he was applying for?? Absolutely! He could do them probably even better than the ones hired. Problem is you have to get past HR first. And HR is pre-programmed to look for college degrees and certifications. Those without them get their resume file 13'd.

I am a sysadmin in a 15 person office making over 40k in Hawaii. got offered the job on day of interview. no degree. no certs. noone sold me any "load". I see it for myself day in day out for the last 5-6 years, just after all this cert stuff got popular.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: randay
I did not drop out, I could sign up next semester and finish it if I wanted to. The class is from 12 noon to 3pm, I would have to take off a large chunk of time out from work. The prof is a senile(he strays from a subject and completely forgets to go back to it) old man teaching something I already have tons of real world experience(telecom) in and also is completely unrelated to my career goals. The degree I will get means nothing when put up against the 8 years of real IT experience I have. Basically I dont give a crap about the peice of paper, and Im happy that I actually had a few classes where I learned something.

Wow.... who sold you that load??
Let me tell you what your experience will get you. My father retired from the Air Force after doing coding and technical writing work for the better part of his 20 years in the service. Thats nearly 20 years of real world, on the job experience! But when he hit the civilian world he had a very hard time even getting companies to interview him. Why?? No college degree. Could he do the jobs he was applying for?? Absolutely! He could do them probably even better than the ones hired. Problem is you have to get past HR first. And HR is pre-programmed to look for college degrees and certifications. Those without them get their resume file 13'd.

I am a sysadmin in a 15 person office making over 40k in Hawaii. got offered the job on day of interview. no degree. no certs. noone sold me any "load". I see it for myself day in day out for the last 5-6 years, just after all this cert stuff got popular.

It's little wonder you're only making $40K in a high cost-of-living environment after 8 years in IT.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: randay
Whats your point anyway? this is the 3rd time I have to say this:

I AM NOT DISPUTING THE FACT THAT RAID 0 OFFERS NO FAULT TOLERANCE!!!

Yet you still fail to qualify a "RAID0" as redundant. Thats is the point.

"RAID0" is a level zero RAID.

How does that address redundancy, as per the dictionary definition?

Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks.

redundant

1. characterized by verbosity or unnecessary repetition in expressing ideas; prolix: a redundant style.
2. being in excess; exceeding what is usual or natural: a redundant part.
3. having some unusual or extra part or feature.
4. characterized by superabundance or superfluity: lush, redundant vegetation.
5. Engineering. a. (of a structural member) not necessary for resisting statically determined stresses.
b. (of a structure) having members designed to resist other than statically determined stresses; hyperstatic.
c. noting a complete truss having additional members for resisting eccentric loads. Compare complete (def. 8), incomplete (def. 3).
d. (of a device, circuit, computer system, etc.) having excess or duplicate parts that can continue to perform in the event of malfunction of some of the parts.
6. Linguistics. characterized by redundancy; predictable.
7. Computers. containing more bits or characters than are required, as a parity bit inserted for checking purposes.
8. Chiefly British. removed or laid off from a job.

array

?verb (used with object) 1. to place in proper or desired order; marshal: Napoleon arrayed his troops for battle.
2. to clothe with garments, esp. of an ornamental kind; dress up; deck out: She arrayed herself in furs and diamonds.
?noun 3. order or arrangement, as of troops drawn up for battle.
4. military force, esp. a body of troops.
5. a large and impressive grouping or organization of things: He couldn't dismiss the array of facts.
6. regular order or arrangement; series: an array of figures.
7. a large group, number, or quantity of people or things: an impressive array of scholars; an imposing array of books.
8. attire; dress: in fine array.
9. an arrangement of interrelated objects or items of equipment for accomplishing a particular task: thousands of solar cells in one vast array.
10. Mathematics, Statistics. a. an arrangement of a series of terms according to value, as from largest to smallest.
b. an arrangement of a series of terms in some geometric pattern, as in a matrix.
11. Computers. a block of related data elements, each of which is usually identified by one or more subscripts.
12. Radio. antenna array.

of Inexpensive Disks.

But, dude... per that definition, the array cannot function in the event of a malfunction of some of the parts!! Again, it is not an Array of Inexpensive Redundant Disks.

If you don't understand that the array is what is redundant, then I guess you will have to continue to disagree with every technical website and writer out there.

thats not what the definition says. the definition says that the duplicate parts can continue to perform after a malfunction of other parts.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: randay
I did not drop out, I could sign up next semester and finish it if I wanted to. The class is from 12 noon to 3pm, I would have to take off a large chunk of time out from work. The prof is a senile(he strays from a subject and completely forgets to go back to it) old man teaching something I already have tons of real world experience(telecom) in and also is completely unrelated to my career goals. The degree I will get means nothing when put up against the 8 years of real IT experience I have. Basically I dont give a crap about the peice of paper, and Im happy that I actually had a few classes where I learned something.

Wow.... who sold you that load??
Let me tell you what your experience will get you. My father retired from the Air Force after doing coding and technical writing work for the better part of his 20 years in the service. Thats nearly 20 years of real world, on the job experience! But when he hit the civilian world he had a very hard time even getting companies to interview him. Why?? No college degree. Could he do the jobs he was applying for?? Absolutely! He could do them probably even better than the ones hired. Problem is you have to get past HR first. And HR is pre-programmed to look for college degrees and certifications. Those without them get their resume file 13'd.

I am a sysadmin in a 15 person office making over 40k in Hawaii. got offered the job on day of interview. no degree. no certs. noone sold me any "load". I see it for myself day in day out for the last 5-6 years, just after all this cert stuff got popular.

It's little wonder you're only making $40K in a high cost-of-living environment after 8 years in IT.

Well I am 25. I think I am doing alright. Also Hawaii is a small island and jobs are hard to come by. seeing as how last time I checked, 45K was average for my position. I believe I am doing quite well.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: randay
Whats your point anyway? this is the 3rd time I have to say this:

I AM NOT DISPUTING THE FACT THAT RAID 0 OFFERS NO FAULT TOLERANCE!!!

Yet you still fail to qualify a "RAID0" as redundant. Thats is the point.

"RAID0" is a level zero RAID.

How does that address redundancy, as per the dictionary definition?

Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks.

redundant

1. characterized by verbosity or unnecessary repetition in expressing ideas; prolix: a redundant style.
2. being in excess; exceeding what is usual or natural: a redundant part.
3. having some unusual or extra part or feature.
4. characterized by superabundance or superfluity: lush, redundant vegetation.
5. Engineering. a. (of a structural member) not necessary for resisting statically determined stresses.
b. (of a structure) having members designed to resist other than statically determined stresses; hyperstatic.
c. noting a complete truss having additional members for resisting eccentric loads. Compare complete (def. 8), incomplete (def. 3).
d. (of a device, circuit, computer system, etc.) having excess or duplicate parts that can continue to perform in the event of malfunction of some of the parts.
6. Linguistics. characterized by redundancy; predictable.
7. Computers. containing more bits or characters than are required, as a parity bit inserted for checking purposes.
8. Chiefly British. removed or laid off from a job.

array

?verb (used with object) 1. to place in proper or desired order; marshal: Napoleon arrayed his troops for battle.
2. to clothe with garments, esp. of an ornamental kind; dress up; deck out: She arrayed herself in furs and diamonds.
?noun 3. order or arrangement, as of troops drawn up for battle.
4. military force, esp. a body of troops.
5. a large and impressive grouping or organization of things: He couldn't dismiss the array of facts.
6. regular order or arrangement; series: an array of figures.
7. a large group, number, or quantity of people or things: an impressive array of scholars; an imposing array of books.
8. attire; dress: in fine array.
9. an arrangement of interrelated objects or items of equipment for accomplishing a particular task: thousands of solar cells in one vast array.
10. Mathematics, Statistics. a. an arrangement of a series of terms according to value, as from largest to smallest.
b. an arrangement of a series of terms in some geometric pattern, as in a matrix.
11. Computers. a block of related data elements, each of which is usually identified by one or more subscripts.
12. Radio. antenna array.

of Inexpensive Disks.

But, dude... per that definition, the array cannot function in the event of a malfunction of some of the parts!! Again, it is not an Array of Inexpensive Redundant Disks.

If you don't understand that the array is what is redundant, then I guess you will have to continue to disagree with every technical website and writer out there.

thats not what the definition says. the definition says that the duplicate parts can continue to perform after a malfunction of other parts.

Then continue to disagree with every technical writer and website out there.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: randay
I did not drop out, I could sign up next semester and finish it if I wanted to. The class is from 12 noon to 3pm, I would have to take off a large chunk of time out from work. The prof is a senile(he strays from a subject and completely forgets to go back to it) old man teaching something I already have tons of real world experience(telecom) in and also is completely unrelated to my career goals. The degree I will get means nothing when put up against the 8 years of real IT experience I have. Basically I dont give a crap about the peice of paper, and Im happy that I actually had a few classes where I learned something.

Wow.... who sold you that load??
Let me tell you what your experience will get you. My father retired from the Air Force after doing coding and technical writing work for the better part of his 20 years in the service. Thats nearly 20 years of real world, on the job experience! But when he hit the civilian world he had a very hard time even getting companies to interview him. Why?? No college degree. Could he do the jobs he was applying for?? Absolutely! He could do them probably even better than the ones hired. Problem is you have to get past HR first. And HR is pre-programmed to look for college degrees and certifications. Those without them get their resume file 13'd.

I am a sysadmin in a 15 person office making over 40k in Hawaii. got offered the job on day of interview. no degree. no certs. noone sold me any "load". I see it for myself day in day out for the last 5-6 years, just after all this cert stuff got popular.

It's little wonder you're only making $40K in a high cost-of-living environment after 8 years in IT.

Well I am 25. I think I am doing alright. Also Hawaii is a small island and jobs are hard to come by. seeing as how last time I checked, 45K was average for my position. I believe I am doing quite well.

And, as we have seen, you will believe what you want to believe.

 

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Those professors should be 16-year old kids.

thats what im sayin