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My interpretation of human history from watching "ancient aliens"

DesiPower

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Aliens were living with close contact with humans some 8k to 5k years ago, they mainly lived in space ships outside the upper atmosphere. There were probably two or more groups who occasionally fought with each other. They could not come and live on earth for probably environmental reasons. They somehow mastered the tech of incarnation and came down here as humans and other animals.
They shared their knowledge and intelligence with humans. They wanted to give a lot more to humans but were frustrated with our limited intelligence. So they became fascinated with the idea of imprinting this planet with their DNA and artificially impregnated some women around the world from time to time. Eventually the decided to do a complete overhaul of the whole human species and created Noah and asked him to collect DNA of all animals, destroyed all living beings by drowning them. Eventually Noah and his wifey started a new, alien DNA mixed version of human species and they restored the animals as they were before.
They probably did this overhaul coz they had to leave, go back to their home planet and they knew they wont be able to come back till the next solar system alignment in 2012, but they wanted us to eventually become as intelligent as them.
 

zinfamous

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Those "Aliens lived amongst humans" shows on History channel are a load of horseshit.

Their theories are preposterous, simply because they choose to ignore the possibilty of "greater human achievement than we can see preserved" in favor of "it was obviously too hard for people to do, so the aliens did it."

It is the exact same fucking BS anti-research, anti-thought argument as: "I don't get it, so Jesus did it. The end."
 

waggy

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I thought they were pretty good. but they really didn't have any proof.

though some of the stuff they did is rather amazing and would be good to actually find out.

also you gotta figure if they did come to earth a lot they would still be comeing now.
 

zinfamous

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I thought they were pretty good. but they really didn't have any proof.

though some of the stuff they did is rather amazing and would be good to actually find out.

also you gotta figure if they did come to earth a lot they would still be comeing now.

the problem is that the "theorists" spit in the face of Occam with every breath.

--Giant sculptures and designs that can only be seen from far above? it must be for their Alien friends! No, of course it isn't for their Sky God to see! :rolleyes:

--Giant pyramids, in the desert! D: That's impossible! The Aliens did it! :rolleyes:

--Elaborate maps of jungle terrain and river systems, long before these regions were discovered? The Aliens showed them how to make advanced surveys! :rolleyes:
....OK, before "who" discovered it? Ancient civilizations thrived in the Amazon long before white man "discovered" them. The full capability, knowledge, understanding of the universe of these ancient civilizations has not yet been fully explored, and we're almost daily wowed by new understandings. These ancient people had been walking all over this terrain long before white man showed up--of course they'd fucking know their own territory.

Almost all civilization knew the world was round generations before popular history wants us to think is the case. Come the fuck on--Copernicus knew the earth revolved around the sun, which means there were others of his time that agreed with him, and likely many before that--and some fool wants to make an argument based on their supposed thinking that the world didn't know the earth was round until Columbus bumped into the West Indies? :rolleyes:
 

Anubis

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my take on it is that there is still some shit in the anchient world we cant fully explain yet, im fine with that, like everything else i believe someday we will be able to explain all of it. attributing it to GOD or Aliens is equally as stupid.

that being said i do beleive their is other life out there. if its visited us who knows
 

disappoint

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What Zin said. So obvious it doesn't even bear mentioning but I will anyway. No alien fossils, no evidence of any kind, no way.
 

mizzou

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how did they light the tunnels in the giant Egyptian pyramids? That itself is pretty convincing that they had received "help"
 

Gigantopithecus

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how did they light the tunnels in the giant Egyptian pyramids? That itself is pretty convincing that they had received "help"

/facepalm

No other animal on the planet knows how to make and control fire, so we must've received help a few million years ago, too, right?
 

disappoint

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mostly the HOW of shit got done, the engineering behind how some of it got done, pyramids, shit in Peru...

now the answer may simply be a billion slave laborers, but thats a bit hard to test

Simple machines like levers and pulleys were not beyond their ability.
 

flexy

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I might have seen "Ancient Aliens" years ago..but dont remember this specific movie anymore.

But i am familiar with the thesis, especially with Däniken's books and movies. I just watched two very good recent ones only a few days ago - but i dont now whether there are English versions of it.

Some aspects of his thesis are maybe less "sound" than others, others might have been disproved. Whatever. There is still HEAPS of ultra-interesting stuff where you only can say "WTF".

By the way...i do NOT believe in that 2012 being anything special except that the mayan calendar goes into a new cycle....and whatever people say about "galactic alignment" etc. is total hoagwash. I see you also just used "solar system alignment".

So...go to wikipedia...there is also a NASA site for 2012...you will see that such a "galactic alignment" occurs actually each year.

I do, however, strongly tend to BELIEVE that there is something about ancient texts STRONGLY hinting at "visitors" which conducted genetic experiments, maybe also creating hybrids using gen technology. Ancient history is FULL of such texts. Däniken cited (amongst other scriptures) this really fantastic text, the story where Abraham is visited by those "Angles" and then brought to the space-station...etc..etc... also fantastic ways to interpret the story of sodom/gomorrha how "God" saw that his creation (the hybrids) somehow turned out wrong...so he saw the need to destroy them etc.. Makes much more sense than taking the Bible literally and think "God" destroyed them because they engaged i sexual orgies or were homosexual. (Why the *** would god kill them for that?)
And then of course all the other texts like Ezekiel etc.... its all very interesting.
 
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nerp

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You guys who are buying into this crap need to do some actual reading on the subject instead of watching stupid TV programs. Every speculative comment here is ridiculous.
 

flexy

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attributing it to GOD or Aliens is equally as stupid.

The thesis in its essence actually says that the "God belief" origins from the "Aliens" visiting. And there is really mind-boggling stuff in old religious texts, not only in the bible...but actually in most religious. Most of them read like science fiction.
 

OCGuy

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The thesis in its essence actually says that the "God belief" origins from the "Aliens" visiting. And there is really mind-boggling stuff in old religious texts, not only in the bible...but actually in most religious. Most of them read like science fiction.

This is why I went Scientologist. I can believe in both!
 

waggy

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/facepalm

No other animal on the planet knows how to make and control fire, so we must've received help a few million years ago, too, right?

actually they talked about that. they mention there is NO soot at all on the walls or ceiling and not enough oxygen to keep the fires burning.

they also mentioned mirrors. but again the mirrors were just not strong enough to do all the tunnels that they were.

besides the cave and markeing they made a point about some of the building and cuts they did are damn had even with today's tools. let alone tools they had 3 thousand years ago.
 

flexy

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exact same fucking BS anti-research, anti-thought argument

Lol, and lol, and lol.

If at all, taking EvD as the "pioneer" of the ancient aliens theory, he is the reason that the conventional scientists finally started to think - and NOT simply took old, dogmatic scientific theories as granted without EVER looking at them from other angles.

If at all, he is the one who says "THINK" and dont simply accept anything you learned simply because "IT SAYS SO IN MY BOOK" <--- this is "anti-thought".
 

waggy

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The thesis in its essence actually says that the "God belief" origins from the "Aliens" visiting. And there is really mind-boggling stuff in old religious texts, not only in the bible...but actually in most religious. Most of them read like science fiction.

yeah

I find it funny though that eople are willing to say it was god that did it and say believing in aliens is stupid. When there is some evidence (flimsy? kinda out there? bad evidence even) saying aliens were here at some time.

nobody can say for sure. though id o question both
 

Six

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Imagine a millennium from now when the people of the future have become so dependent on nanobots to "print" whatever they wanted. Those people would have forgotten about our simple machines now and wonder how the heck did we build bridges and skyscrapers. It would be easiest to say we had help from aliens.
 

flexy

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Here some nice examples because i watched some shows about this the last days.

It is commonly assumed that EVERYTHING about ancient egypt and the pyramids is known. Like there is no mystery anymore and all facts are "revealed".

Now..EVERYONE will tell you that the big pyramids are "tombs" for Pharaos...SIMPLY because someone said so.

You know that in the big pyramid in Giza there is no texts or anything, there is plain and boring walls and NOTHING leads to believe that this ever was really a tomb.

Even the tomb in the main chamber itself actually does not really look like a tomb, we say "tomb" because someone called it that once in some book. Of course, there was also never a dead pharaoh found in the big pyramid either...

So..we "make up" our own history and science. People should start thinking and not blindly believe anything, some stuff which is written down since ages and NEVER got questioned.
 
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arrfep

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That show's worth watching just for the Greek guy with the crazy hair.
 

Bateluer

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Humans have a tendency to forget our own history. Now, I sincerely doubt aliens molded human development as some suggest, but we've definitely forgotten or destroyed the majority of our own history. Hell, we've destroyed our own records before simply because they don't meet the current standards of religion, Great Library, Mayan/Incan texts, etc.

The Ancient Alien theories are fascinating because there's just enough to them to make you wonder. The majority of it is purely speculative because there is no hard data, there's just historical oddities and various ancient writings that could be interpreted differently.

Having said that, I'm going to need more speculative evidence that the Egyptian Pyramids were part of a global hydrogen power grid.
 

waggy

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Humans have a tendency to forget our own history. Now, I sincerely doubt aliens molded human development as some suggest, but we've definitely forgotten or destroyed the majority of our own history. Hell, we've destroyed our own records before simply because they don't meet the current standards of religion, Great Library, Mayan/Incan texts, etc.

The Ancient Alien theories are fascinating because there's just enough to them to make you wonder. The majority of it is purely speculative because there is no hard data, there's just historical oddities and various ancient writings that could be interpreted differently.

Having said that, I'm going to need more speculative evidence that the Egyptian Pyramids were part of a global hydrogen power grid.

the government has the proof. yet they refuse to share it. the bastards