My idea to end ties in soccer

[spidey07]

Can't stand the tie. It's a sport, a game, there needs to be a winner and a loser. So I propose the following suggestions:

1) Each team loses a man every 10 minutes after end of regulation on any play stoppage, no substitutions allowed, period. True sudden death. Repeat every 10 minutes.

Or to make it a little more interesting:

2) Coin flip decides which team loses a man first. At end of regulation coin flip losers lose a man, after 5 minutes into sudden death other team loses a man. Repeat until decided every 5 minutes, no substitutions allowed.

Workable or am I smoking crack?

 

[xeemzor]

Why not just have a shootout?

 

[TwiceOver]

Please no coin flips in games. It doesn't make sense in real football, so why use it in this fake sport...

 

[theflyingpig]

The first man each team should loose is the goalkeeper.

 

[spidey07]

Please no coin flips in games. It doesn't make sense in real football, so why use it in this fake sport...

The only reason for the coin flip was to make it interesting so the teams are constantly unbalanced leading to quicker score. 11 vs 10 isn't a super clear advantage but 9-8 would be, etc.

 

[spidey07]

The first man each team should loose is the goalkeeper.

I could almost go with that, as long as another player could still use his hands. Otherwise first shot on goal wins which would likely mean first possession.

 

[darkxshade]

2) Coin flip decides which team loses a man first. At end of regulation coin flip losers lose a man, after 5 minutes into sudden death other team loses a man. Repeat until decided ever 5 minutes, no substitutions allowed.

So the team that loses the coin flip with either be evenly matched or one man down the whole time?

 

[zerogear]

http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/minis/mini/soccermini/soccermini7.html

Ties are allowed in soccer games. In competitions where it is necessary to determine a winner (such as the World Cup finals), there are two primary ways to break the tie: by playing extra time or by a penalty shoot-out. Extra time simply involves having the teams play another mini-game, divided into two 15 minute halves. Extra time is not usually played as "sudden death," in which the games ends as soon as one team scores first; rather, the full 30 minutes of extra time is played and only if one team is ahead at the end will it be deemed the winner, just like in basketball.

If a game is still tied at the end of extra time, the game will usually be decided by penalties. Five players are selected from each team who then take penalty kicks one at a time, alternating between the two teams; if at the end one team has scored more goals, it is deemed the winner. Not all 10 penalties need to be taken to determine a winner: think of a situation in which the first three players from Team A all score, and the first three players from Team B miss; even though four players still have yet to attempt their penalties, there is no mathematical way that Team B can win, so the game is over as soon as one team has won.

If the score is still tied at the end of all 10 penalty attempts, the shoot-out then becomes sudden death. Each team selects a player to attempt another penalty shot. If one team scores and the other misses, the games ends immediately. If both teams score or both miss, the rounds will continue until there's a winner. Nerve racking stuff. But pretty darn exciting for the fans.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Uh they only do ties in this bracket part of the World Cup. If you want to get rid of ties then just use the same format they use when the World Cup reaches the quarters in bracket play as well. No need for some crazy solution.

 

[spidey07]

So the team that loses the coin flip with either be evenly matched or one man down the whole time?

Crap, didn't realize that. Ok, after 5 minutes coin flip winner loses 2 men to keep it constantly 1 man advantage to either team going back and forth. Exchanging the advantage so to speak.

 

[Lonyo]

You're smoking crack.
Where there needs to be a winner (e.g. in cup ties/finals) there are systems in place to determine a winner.
If it was felt that a winner was required in every match, they could implement one or more of the current schemes which exist/have been used in order to force a non-draw result.

 

[gorcorps]

Why not just have shootout?

This would make the most sense. Have a shootout hockey style, only they still get their line of players to block down low. Same scoring as hockey, each side gets 3 shots and if it's still a tie then you keep going evenly till one wins. Easy and quick.

 

[palswim]

Yeah! I've been thinking about this, too.

I'd say two five-minute halves (instead of ten minutes, so the teams could switch sides), but I think once the teams went to 6-6, they'd just have to play until somebody scored. Maybe give each team an extra substitution after the first set of halves.

 

[darkxshade]

Crap, didn't realize that. Ok, after 5 minutes coin flip winner loses 2 men to keep it constantly 1 man advantage to either team going back and forth. Exchanging the advantage so to speak.

Wouldn't it make more sense[for an even game standpoint] that at the end of regulation, both teams have to lose a man every 5 or 10 mins? You take away the "fair game" by allowing one team to have an advantage the whole time. By taking one from each team, you have a larger field to cover with fewer men until it becomes a 1 on 1[w or w/o goalie?]

 

[palswim]

But, I'm all for ties in situations where there doesn't need to be a winner (Group stages, regular season, etc.).

 

[Fingolfin269]

But, I'm all for ties in situations where there doesn't need to be a winner (Group stages, regular season, etc.).

Exactly. The point of group play is to accumulate points. You "win" by advancing. It adds a layer of strategy that is unnecessary in a W/L only outcome match.

 

[zinfamous]

Can't stand the tie. It's a sport, a game, there needs to be a winner and a loser. So I propose the following suggestions:

1) Each team loses a man every 10 minutes after end of regulation on any play stoppage, no substitutions allowed, period. True sudden death. Repeat every 10 minutes.

Or to make it a little more interesting:

2) Coin flip decides which team loses a man first. At end of regulation coin flip losers lose a man, after 5 minutes into sudden death other team loses a man. Repeat until decided every 5 minutes, no substitutions allowed.

Workable or am I smoking crack?

maybe you should work on getting the NFL to end ties, first?

fact is, after group play and because this is a championship tournament, there are no ties. They've already solved the "problem" that you invented.

 

[joebloggs10]

Just make it easy and don't allow 11 players per side- change the rule so that only 9 or 10 player are allowed per side for the entire game. Part of the reason why soccer is so low-scoring and prone to ties is that the field is too clogged with players. Also, get rid of the offside rule.

 

[gimmewhitecastles]

keep smoking that crack buddy.

 

[Crusty]

Just make it easy and don't allow 11 players per side- change the rule so that only 9 or 10 player are allowed per side for the entire game. Part of the reason why soccer is so low-scoring and prone to ties is that the field is too clogged with players. Also, get rid of the offside rule.

If you get rid of offsides the field won't be nearly as cramped.

 

[thepd7]

Just make it easy and don't allow 11 players per side- change the rule so that only 9 or 10 player are allowed per side for the entire game. Part of the reason why soccer is so low-scoring and prone to ties is that the field is too clogged with players. Also, get rid of the offside rule.

worst idea ever, you have obviously never played soccer.

 

[darkxshade]

I mean if we're going to change rules, it should be made to make the game more exciting... like the goalie gets to carry a revolver with 6 shots and can shoot[to kill] any of the opposing players advancing towards him. Just an idea...

 

[dullard]

Bah, just make the goal 50% bigger. There will be more goals, a far more exciting game to watch, and far fewer ties.

True, you can do well with less skilled players if there is a bigger goal, but I'd trade that for a game that is far more worth watching.

 

[purbeast0]

im guessing that about 92% of the people in this thread have no clue how the world cup standinds/points/brackets work.

 

[KeithTalent]

Stupid. Ties are fine when it's not an elimination round.

KT