My idea to cut down drug problems

[techs]

There are a lot of ways to have fun, illegal drugs isn't really needed.

Present the choice to alcoholics, sure, that would be a good thing.

Britain really needs a Constitution.


Just sayin'

 

[airdata]

How will we keep all those cops and prisons employed?

There are plenty of offenses outside of drug related crimes.

Legalizing won't fly though. We've had government agencies dabbling in the sale of drugs for decades. Cocaine, opium, heroin... lots of money to be made.

My favorite war on drugs failure though has to be meth and the restriction of over the counter drugs that could be used to make meth. This has effected anybody who needs to buy certain medications that used to be openly available in order to curtail meth production in the us.

The funny part is that all this did was open up a very lucrative market to mexican drug cartels who now import and profit from the sale of meth that used to be mostly dominated by americans.

 

[techs]

There are plenty of offenses outside of drug related crimes.

Legalizing won't fly though. We've had government agencies dabbling in the sale of drugs for decades. Cocaine, opium, heroin... lots of money to be made.

My favorite war on drugs failure though has to be meth and the restriction of over the counter drugs that could be used to make meth. This has effected anybody who needs to buy certain medications that used to be openly available in order to curtail meth production in the us.

The funny part is that all this did was open up a very lucrative market to mexican drug cartels who now import and profit from the sale of meth that used to be mostly dominated by americans.

Except that we have discussed this before and it actually did cut down meth production and use. It has risen again with the rise of the Mexican meth, but is still below the levels before the restrictions on Sudafed.

 

[HAL9000]

Britain really needs a Constitution.


Just sayin'

England has a constitution.

Just sayin'

 

[techs]

Britain really needs a Constitution.


Just sayin'

England has a constitution.

Just sayin'

Unlike many nations, the UK has no core constitutional document. It is therefore often said that the country has an unwritten, uncodified, or de facto constitution. However, the word "unwritten" is something of a misnomer as much of the British constitution is embodied in the written form, within statutes, court judgments, and treaties. The constitution has other unwritten sources, including parliamentary constitutional conventions and royal prerogatives.

No, they really don't.

Just sayin'

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Britain really needs a Constitution.


Just sayin'

The UK has a constitution.

Just sayin'

 

[techs]

The UK has a constitution.

Just sayin'

Unlike many nations, the UK has no core constitutional document. It is therefore often said that the country has an unwritten, uncodified, or de facto constitution. However, the word "unwritten" is something of a misnomer as much of the British constitution is embodied in the written form, within statutes, court judgments, and treaties. The constitution has other unwritten sources, including parliamentary constitutional conventions and royal prerogatives.



No, they really don't.

Just sayin..

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Unlike many nations, the UK has no core constitutional document. It is therefore often said that the country has an unwritten, uncodified, or de facto constitution. However, the word "unwritten" is something of a misnomer as much of the British constitution is embodied in the written form, within statutes, court judgments, and treaties. The constitution has other unwritten sources, including parliamentary constitutional conventions and royal prerogatives.

No, they really don't.

Just sayin'

You should not forget that first line: "The constitution of the United Kingdom is the set of laws and principles under which the United Kingdom is governed."

I do believe one of our lesser colonies modeled their constitution after ours too...

 

[techs]

You should not forget that first line: "The constitution of the United Kingdom is the set of laws and principles under which the United Kingdom is governed."

I do believe one of our lesser colonies modeled their constitution after ours too...

Don't be disrepecting Ireland, you hear?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Don't be disrepecting Ireland, you hear?

I wasn't talking about Ireland...

Perhaps with less drugs your brain would work better?

 

[HAL9000]

Unlike many nations, the UK has no core constitutional document. It is therefore often said that the country has an unwritten, uncodified, or de facto constitution. However, the word "unwritten" is something of a misnomer as much of the British constitution is embodied in the written form, within statutes, court judgments, and treaties. The constitution has other unwritten sources, including parliamentary constitutional conventions and royal prerogatives.

No, they really don't.

Just sayin'

Unlike many nations, the UK has no core constitutional document. It is therefore often said that the country has an unwritten, uncodified, or de facto constitution. However, the word "unwritten" is something of a misnomer as much of the British constitution is embodied in the written form, within statutes, court judgments, and treaties. The constitution has other unwritten sources, including parliamentary constitutional conventions and royal prerogatives.



No, they really don't.

Just sayin..

Yeah we really do.

Just sayin'

Google Magna Carta, and UK Billl of rights.

Then do the research after that feel free to lecture us on our country :biggrin:

 

[HAL9000]

I wasn't talking about Ireland...

Perhaps with less drugs your brain would work better?

I bet he's one of those crazy American's that for some reason considers himself Irish, because five generations ago one of his ancestors lived there. it always makes me chuckle.

 

[techs]

Yeah we really do.

Just sayin'

Google Magna Carta, and UK Billl of rights.

Then do the research after that feel free to lecture us on our country :biggrin:

New York has a bunch of laws. Nevada has a bunch of laws. So does my little town.

That's NOT a Constitution. A Constitution spells out the structure of government. It spells out the rights of its citizens. A bunch of laws and legal precedents does not a Constitution make.

Which is why they tolerate the government doing just about anything over there.

 

[KDOG]

Scary how people think legalizing drugs would be a good idea. Can you imagine the chaos? People driving while on smack? Operating heavy machinery after snorting a line? Taking care of someones medical needs after shooting up? Yeah, thats' brilliant..... I'm almost tempted to say that they should try it in an american city so the rest of us can see how bad of an idea that would be.....

The problem with drugs (especially the harder ones) is we are not harsh ENOUGH on them. My idea (and I'm 90% serious) is to place undercover 50 cals around major cities or other places that have a bad drug problem. When a drug deal is going down and its confirmed - open up on all involved. Then leave the pile of goo there with a sign that reads "Drug dealer and buyer here. Get the point?" I guarantee the drug problem would disappear.

Automatic death penalty for drug dealing. Period.

 

[HAL9000]

New York has a bunch of laws. Nevada has a bunch of laws. So does my little town.

That's NOT a Constitution. A Constitution spells out the structure of government. It spells out the rights of its citizens. A bunch of laws and legal precedents does not a Constitution make.

Which is why they tolerate the government doing just about anything over there.

I'm sorry did you not read the link? The Magna Carta is a constitution that covers the country. Or was your google search not clear?

 

[techs]

Scary how people think legalizing drugs would be a good idea. Can you imagine the chaos? People driving while on smack? Operating heavy machinery after snorting a line? Taking care of someones medical needs after shooting up? Yeah, thats' brilliant..... I'm almost tempted to say that they should try it in an american city so the rest of us can see how bad of an idea that would be.....

The problem with drugs (especially the harder ones) is we are not harsh ENOUGH on them. My idea (and I'm 90% serious) is to place undercover 50 cals around major cities or other places that have a bad drug problem. When a drug deal is going down and its confirmed - open up on all involved. Then leave the pile of goo there with a sign that reads "Drug dealer and buyer here. Get the point?" I guarantee the drug problem would disappear.

Automatic death penalty for drug dealing. Period.

And when we have finished with the drug users we can start on the Jews.....

 

[HAL9000]

Scary how people think legalizing drugs would be a good idea. Can you imagine the chaos? People driving while on smack? Operating heavy machinery after snorting a line? Taking care of someones medical needs after shooting up? Yeah, thats' brilliant..... I'm almost tempted to say that they should try it in an american city so the rest of us can see how bad of an idea that would be.....

The problem with drugs (especially the harder ones) is we are not harsh ENOUGH on them. My idea (and I'm 90% serious) is to place undercover 50 cals around major cities or other places that have a bad drug problem. When a drug deal is going down and its confirmed - open up on all involved. Then leave the pile of goo there with a sign that reads "Drug dealer and buyer here. Get the point?" I guarantee the drug problem would disappear.

Automatic death penalty for drug dealing. Period.

A fair point, my system wouldn't address the problems caused by people taking drugs, but it would combat the underground illegal system behind supplying drugs.

We need my idea + your idea of harsher consequences for taking drugs whilst doing certain things.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Or we could approach the problem from the consumer side, and eliminate the demand. Make possession and use of every illegal drug punishable by death. The problem would solve it self in just a few years.

Nice lack of morality there.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

New York has a bunch of laws. Nevada has a bunch of laws. So does my little town.

That's NOT a Constitution. A Constitution spells out the structure of government. It spells out the rights of its citizens. A bunch of laws and legal precedents does not a Constitution make.

Which is why they tolerate the government doing just about anything over there.

Son, just shut up and go away, you have been proven wrong, your own constitution is modeled after our constitution for fucks sakes.

Why can't you EVER just admit that you are wrong and go away? Is it part of some special sort of brain disorder you got from doing too much crank?

 

[techs]

Son, just shut up and go away, you have been proven wrong, your own constitution is modeled after our constitution for fucks sakes.

Why can't you EVER just admit that you are wrong and go away? Is it part of some special sort of brain disorder you got from doing too much crank?

Funny, I just searched and searched for the British Constitution on the web.
Can't find a link to it.
Please furnish link to British, or English Constitution so I may read it.
Thanks for your assistance.

 

[Ns1]

Have the .gov make/grow the drugs = tons of jobs

Charge the junkies well below current black market rate while still turning massive profit = .gov revenue

No more war on drugs and vastly reduce the prison population = less cost to .gov

Remove 90% of the gangs funding, drug dealers become non existent, no more innocent people killed in drug shootouts, tons of family pets are saved

Druggies who would have done drugs anyway still use drugs

Win?

free drugs = people will take the drugs and sell them to other countries or to people who cannot get prescriptions.

Make drugs freely available on the NHS, requiring a prescription

prescription requirement = black market exists + free drugs = unlimited supply to said black market

 

[TechBoyJK]

Scary how people think legalizing drugs would be a good idea. Can you imagine the chaos? People driving while on smack? Operating heavy machinery after snorting a line? Taking care of someones medical needs after shooting up? Yeah, thats' brilliant..... I'm almost tempted to say that they should try it in an american city so the rest of us can see how bad of an idea that would be.....

The problem with drugs (especially the harder ones) is we are not harsh ENOUGH on them. My idea (and I'm 90% serious) is to place undercover 50 cals around major cities or other places that have a bad drug problem. When a drug deal is going down and its confirmed - open up on all involved. Then leave the pile of goo there with a sign that reads "Drug dealer and buyer here. Get the point?" I guarantee the drug problem would disappear.

Automatic death penalty for drug dealing. Period.

Automatic death penalty for drug dealing would simply increase the price of drugs, enticing the smartest of criminals to create secret distribution channels and reap even bigger profits. If you made the penalty for dealing drugs death, and had secret 50 cals, they'd never get used because drugs wouldn't be sold out in the open.

Basically, bad idea, with good intentions. What makes the illegal drug trade so criminal and violent is the existing penalty system. Increasing penalties would only make things worse. Less drug dealers, less supply, higher prices, more reward, more people trying to sell it.

Legalizing is the "least evil" option which is exactly why prohibition ended. Save the money on enforcement and incarceration costs, and start dumping the cash into drug education programs for kids and drug counseling and treatment centers.

Pot's illegal, and use keeps going up. Tobacco is legal, and through regulation and education, use is going down.

Criminalization of drug use is a completely ignorant policy.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Funny, I just searched and searched for the British Constitution on the web.
Can't find a link to it.
Please furnish link to British, or English Constitution so I may read it.
Thanks for your assistance.

It's not ONE document, it's a set of governing laws spread over several different documents but Magna Carta is a good start, so is the bill of rights and there are links in the fucking wiki page you quoted to keep you going until you have read all of it.

Of course, you were already told about this three times before but i suppose you can't read even the things you google and then quote selectively so ...

You know what, fuckit, i'm done with this discussion, you're not going to do shit anyway and one month from now you'll still say "the UK has no constitution".

Because that is how ignorant fucking twats function, they cannot learn, it's impossible to teach them even the simplest things, they have shut their brain down and further knowledge is impossible.

 

[techs]

It's not ONE document, it's a set of governing laws spread over several different documents but Magna Carta is a good start, so is the bill of rights and there are links in the fucking wiki page you quoted to keep you going until you have read all of it.

Of course, you were already told about this three times before but i suppose you can't read even the things you google and then quote selectively so ...

You know what, fuckit, i'm done with this discussion, you're not going to do shit anyway and one month from now you'll still say "the UK has no constitution".

Because that is how ignorant fucking twats function, they cannot learn, it's impossible to teach them even the simplest things, they have shut their brain down and further knowledge is impossible.

I have a constitution. Its composed of all the posts in every forum on the internet.
See, just cause you say you have one, doesn't mean you have one.
We have a saying in America. I'm from Missouri. Show me.

 

[xj0hnx]

Scary how people think legalizing drugs would be a good idea. Can you imagine the chaos? People driving while on smack? Operating heavy machinery after snorting a line? Taking care of someones medical needs after shooting up? Yeah, thats' brilliant..... I'm almost tempted to say that they should try it in an american city so the rest of us can see how bad of an idea that would be.....

The problem with drugs (especially the harder ones) is we are not harsh ENOUGH on them. My idea (and I'm 90% serious) is to place undercover 50 cals around major cities or other places that have a bad drug problem. When a drug deal is going down and its confirmed - open up on all involved. Then leave the pile of goo there with a sign that reads "Drug dealer and buyer here. Get the point?" I guarantee the drug problem would disappear.

Automatic death penalty for drug dealing. Period.

You sir, are a class A moron. Do you really think that people don't do those things now? You think that if heroin were legal people would be lining up to shoot dope? lol. Places that have legalized drugs have proven the chicken little's wrong. Penalties right now are too stiff, you can get more time for growing a weed than you can for murdering somebody, it's insanity defined. All we are doing now is paying for a revolving door prison system that does absolutely nothing to address the underlying problems. We spend billions every year and are not any closer to fixing the real problems than we were forty years ago.