My high school's WLAN isnt encrypted...
- Thread starter MatthewF01
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Sounds like you have free wifi. Where is this school? 
As to your DLW-2000AP do you have the latest firmware installed? What access card are you using?
-Por
As to your DLW-2000AP do you have the latest firmware installed? What access card are you using?
-Por
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I do not get it. The kid was allowed to use a Computer for printing.
He acts like a computer "Peeping Tom", looking into information that does not pertained to the printing task.
And now you are going to help him to brake into his school Network?
He acts like a computer "Peeping Tom", looking into information that does not pertained to the printing task.
And now you are going to help him to brake into his school Network?
But JackMDS, you forget this is Anandtech. We have all the 1337 H4k0Rs to help us.
Goodpoint, do you have no shame? This is illegal!
Didn't do anything I didn't so in High School. We left our servers on over the weekend but Im not sure if your does that. We had all of our schools in the district Networked and my high school was the main one.
Someone sent a winpopup on day and it blanketed all 8 schools...He got expelled.
Someone sent a winpopup on day and it blanketed all 8 schools...He got expelled.
Not at all. Knowing whether it will work and actually doing it are two totally different things. I gave the "this can get you in trouble" speech.
Matthew
Last Name: Fugel
Username: MatthewF01
City: Alpharetta
Province/State: Georgia
You're in Georgia no less, are you insane? They will plaster your butt to the wall as a worse Hacker than Kevin Mitnick.
Read my sig.
Yes. Lots of trouble in fact. When technophobes see you doing something they barely understand they label you. And unfortunately, backed with scarce and crappy information from paper IT people, they will have enough knowledge to make life hell. Don't do it. Please.
If they are so stupid, why does it surprise you that they have such a wide open network?
Basically, the risks are not worth the problems. See what they are doing wrong, and learn how to fix it. Many of them won't listen, so I won't tell you to bother telling them. That can cause problems by itself. Just don't make the same mistakes if you are put in their situation.
After we did it at our school the "tech" wrote a batch file to delete it and the teacher gave it to one kid and told us to pass it around. He just went in and took out the delete part so it did nothing.
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So let me see if I understand the principle.
I doubt that you are working to support yourself, like the majority of the kids you probably have Adults that working hard to support you. But Hey you probably deserve it.
The teachers and the ?Stupid? IT people are working because it is fun. They do not really need to work and get paid.
So your Job is to make more Fun so they can waste their time.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Very funny.
As for the Adult in this thread.
While your comments about the IT and Administrators that do not attend to their system security are factually correct. The way the comments are made help the Pranksters to self justify their doings.
Use the thread or PM, and help them to conduct a security survey. Let them write it in a professional manner and send it to the Principle. Playing Jokes on their friends does not improve security.
I doubt that you are working to support yourself, like the majority of the kids you probably have Adults that working hard to support you. But Hey you probably deserve it.
The teachers and the ?Stupid? IT people are working because it is fun. They do not really need to work and get paid.
So your Job is to make more Fun so they can waste their time.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Very funny.
As for the Adult in this thread.
While your comments about the IT and Administrators that do not attend to their system security are factually correct. The way the comments are made help the Pranksters to self justify their doings.
Use the thread or PM, and help them to conduct a security survey. Let them write it in a professional manner and send it to the Principle. Playing Jokes on their friends does not improve security.
LANMAN
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I agree Dave!!
Even if the WiFi banner says, "Welcome" ... I'd stay the heck out of any unwarranted network in Georgia! :|
The State government is probably still watching all the threads here even after the past problems during the Dnet issue.
I can see it already... " Hey, guys!! I got another one at a local school network... Lets go bust him too!! "
Take DC's advice Matthew... don't do it!!
--LANMAN
BTW: Dude8684, that's security through obsecurity. I'll wait till you shut down your puter and then hijack your MAC address. Just thought you should know that's not a secure method either.
Cheers!!
-Youre absolutely right
- I am well aware of the information i choose to make public
-I have a FVCKING domain name in my name
-yes, WhitePages. Good for checking out my home information. Well aware, again.
-Mapquest satellite imaging, ive pulled that one before.
-what do you mean bellsouth is being used as my FTP sites? No crap.. they are linked off my main website... which is HOSTED ELSEWHERE (actually in canada)
-thanks for making all this information completely public to where the people on here who DONT know how to access it, now know what to do. Good to know my privacy rights as a minor are protected and you are concerned for my not being stalked by crazy anandtech drifters...
Again, let me reiterate my intentions. I dont want to know how to BREAK INTO their network. If i wanted to do something like that I might just as well sit down at a harwired desktop, log in with my little username, blahblah. Simply wondering if it would be a BAD THING if I hopped on their network to harmlessly access the internet-- no pornography, no illegal south american gambling, no drug trafficking operations, no remote nuclear weapons launching, no Yahoo pool games... just informational purposes. MAYBE a visit to Anandtech. If those are bad intentions then thats what Im asking. Is utilizing their WLAN AT ALL a bad intention?
My idea behind this thread is more just a topic for discussion-- I guess im looking for peoples opinions on morals and ethics and public education with growing technology and unrealized vulnerabilities.
And thanks for attacking me Jack. Good to know I can ask a question in order to learn and get 'schooled' and talked down to by someone who will rather slap me across the face than explain to me.
And actually I do work to support much of myself... I am employed so that I dont have to ask my parents to lend me money when I need/want to buy anything. And I dont work at the local hamburger stand either... I have a job in a corporate environment and am light-years ahead of my peers.
thoughts from anyone who wont be hostile towards me?
Personally, might be a good way to make money (not THAT way). Head over to the IT folks after school and tell them:
1) you noticed the network *appears* to be open;
2) would it be okay if you brought your laptop in for school purposes, i.e. not have to copy floppies back and forth for school papers and such?
3) speaking of which, do they have an intern, co-op, or work study type program over the summer?
I would highly doubt they are *retarded*, more along the lines of the typically overworked and underpaid folks who work in schools...which would go along with scaring teachers. Think about all of your teachers being left unattended in front of computers and you have to clean up the mess afterwards?
*thinking................................*
Scary, isn't it?
They are probably getting around to securing the wireless but it's probably lower on the list than keeping everything running on a day to day basis.
Anyway, that's my $0.02.
edit: hmm....hadn't seen the work bit (my fault for not reading all the way through). And it seems like the topic's getting a little angry. To the original question: Yes, if you don't ask, they probably wouldn't like you getting in w/o permission (whether they are making it easy or not).
1) you noticed the network *appears* to be open;
2) would it be okay if you brought your laptop in for school purposes, i.e. not have to copy floppies back and forth for school papers and such?
3) speaking of which, do they have an intern, co-op, or work study type program over the summer?
I would highly doubt they are *retarded*, more along the lines of the typically overworked and underpaid folks who work in schools...which would go along with scaring teachers. Think about all of your teachers being left unattended in front of computers and you have to clean up the mess afterwards?
*thinking................................*
Scary, isn't it?
They are probably getting around to securing the wireless but it's probably lower on the list than keeping everything running on a day to day basis.
Anyway, that's my $0.02.
edit: hmm....hadn't seen the work bit (my fault for not reading all the way through). And it seems like the topic's getting a little angry. To the original question: Yes, if you don't ask, they probably wouldn't like you getting in w/o permission (whether they are making it easy or not).
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