My GREAT (but probably strange) Idea!

ViperMagic

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Bush is building a cooalation, right? Lets go one step further, and make a worldwide governmant.

Take each PM, president, king, etc, and change his title to Senator, or whatever. Lets use the NATO Countrys for now as an example of this. I dont know the heads of state for most of these countries, so ill make some up. Say Senator Bush from the USA is eleced to lead this cooalition. He would become Chanchloer. Each Senator would maitain control over there respective countries, like a Governer over a State. Bush chooses the Senator from Luxamberg to be his vice-Channchelor. (Yes, I know i cannot spell chancholler). The countries who would join this would keep there names, but instead of countries be Mebers of Earth. (the name for all this). The Military would be consolidated, etc, etc. It would not be like Nato or the UN. It would be formong a new COUNTRY, taking all the countrys thayt want to join, and assembling them into 1. We would be able to produce all the oil we need from Members in the mid-east, wheat from Members in northamerica, etc.
Thoughts? Additions?
 

iamwiz82

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Yeah, lets start a New World Order. Forget freedom, its all govt. now.

I dont think so.
 

ShadowHunter

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!


ROFLMAO!!!!!


Congratulations, you've just described the world as the United Nations is already trying to make it.
 

ViperMagic

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no no no, there would be freedom, but instead of having a bunch of smaller countries, tehre would be one BIG country, with better security and stuff. Like if a state to america. each county would maintain its government, there would just be one step above that
 

iamwiz82

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<< no no no, there would be freedom, but instead of having a bunch of smaller countries, tehre would be one BIG country, with better security and stuff. Like if a state to america. each county would maintain its government, there would just be one step above that >>




who's to say there will be freedom??? No, it will become one big giant police state, and you couldnt leave if you didnt like it, because it is everything.
 

ShadowHunter

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<< Like if a state to america. each county would maintain its government, there would just be one step above that >>




Oh great, more bureaucracy and red tape. I'm assuming you voted in the communist party this last Pres term, or just for Ralph Nader?
 

ViperMagic

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No, I voted Bush.



<< Bah...what happens when one member messes up? >>


What happens when a state messes up?



<< who's to say there will be freedom??? No, it will become one big giant police state, and you couldnt leave if you didnt like it, because it is everything. >>


Are you free to leave america if you want?
 

tweakmm

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<< who's to say there will be freedom??? No, it will become one big giant police state, and you couldnt leave if you didnt like it, because it is everything. Are you free to leave america if you want? >>


yes
 

Looney

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I agree on this actually... if you ever read Thomas Hobbes (and assuming you agree, which i do), you might have an understanding of why this would be necessary.
 

tweakmm

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<< I agree on this actually... if you ever read Thomas Hobbes (and assuming you agree, which i do), you might have an understanding of why this would be necessary. >>


what would be neccisary? Having a world order?
 

Cooltech2k

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<< who's to say there will be freedom??? No, it will become one big giant police state, and you couldnt leave if you didnt like it, because it is everything. >>



We Still Vote them in, So we can still elect the ones we dont want out...

If you think about it though it would make the worls a much safer place.... No Drugs being smuggled in, cause the police would just simply be able to bust them like that fool slinging out on the corner.... Terrorism would be much easyer to track & irradicate seing how you wouldnt have to wory about violating other nations laws, & If that actually happened it would be the end of warfare seing as how that new govt would already controll everything & if it diddnt nobody would even try to take it on... I For one like the ideal...
 

Wallydraigle

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Yeah, sure. Besides this being an emormously bad idea, try to get all the leaders of all the sovereign states of earth to agree to this. No way, egotism runs way to high for all that. In a perfect world maybe, but a system like that is way too easy to abuse. When your government runs the whole world who do you appeal to when they overstep their bounds?
 

Nemesis77

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OK, let's think about this for a while.

What kind of laws would this world-state have? Americans would propably want the right to carry guns... Europeans would propably be against that idea. Americans would like to have low taxes and less social security, while europeans would be unwilling to give up their social security.

And keep in mind that Europe and USA are pretty much alike. How could you fit in countries from Asia and Africa with more different cultures? How exactly would you solve those problems?

No, world is not ready for that.
 

MikeO

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Would you feel comfortable to leave control over USA to the hands of leader from another country, if it wouldnt be Bush to be elected?

So USA would be part of rest of the world, and not the opposite?

IMHO, this wouldnt work and I hope no one ever actually tries to execute an idea like this.
 

Elledan

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Countries and cultures are disposable items. It's pretty sad that we try to preserve even the worst examples of them.

On a sidenote, we'll have to get rid of religions first before we can start merging countries and cultures. It appears that Muslim and Christians dislike each other and the different churches in which Christianity has fallen apart don't seem to agree with each other either.
 

Nemesis77

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<< Would you feel comfortable to leave control over USA to the hands of leader from another country, if it wouldnt be Bush to be elected? >>



Well, would rest of the world feel comfortable if an american ruled them?

Like I said, the world is not ready.
 

Gen Stonewall

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The Bible predicts that the earth will eventually be controlled by one government. It will be evil and oppressive. It will be so bad, in fact, that those who literally do not worship whomever the ruler is will be thrown out of society. (It probably will be headed by the socialist EU.;)) A World Order is coming, but it won't be pretty.
 

Elledan

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<< The Bible predicts that the earth will eventually be controlled by one government. It will be evil and oppressive. It will be so bad, in fact, that those who literally do not worship whomever the ruler is will be thrown out of society. (It probably will be headed by the socialist EU.;)) A World Order is coming, but it won't be pretty. >>

And we all know that predictions, especially those in the bible, always come true.

BTW, I'm proud to live in the 'socialist' EU.