my GMA x3000 benchmarks...

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hans007

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so i tried the 14.25 driver. I can actually run eve online at 1680x1050.

its a bit choppy but i'm sure i coul dplay. i am currently between video cards, as i'm waiting for a 7600GS to come. but i'll run the wolf ET bench again to see the improvement from 14.21 to 14.25
 

beggerking

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they should rename it to x1000 or something..a jump to x3000 while not providing performance looks bad...
 

hans007

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OK i reran the benchmarks.


one caveat is that since the last driver came out, i swapped my ram from 2 512mb ddr2-667 chips, to 4 256mb ddr2-533 chips (needed the other dimms for something). since it is integrated video that is a slight memory bandwidth difference so it might have screwed it up.


that said...

1280x1024 is now 20.2 fps.


so its 33% faster now, with slower memory.
 

IntelUser2000

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3dmark scores show approximately 10% difference for DDR2-533 and DDR2-667, in favor of the latter.
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
3dmark scores show approximately 10% difference for DDR2-533 and DDR2-667, in favor of the latter.

yeah i assumed it would be something like that. maybe ill try it later again if i get ddr2 667 or 800 in the future. ram is just too expensive right now. had to take my 667s out, to put in a board that only had 2 ram slots unfortunately.
 

ThePengwin

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Hi I'm new here but I'll be reviewing the GMA in a few days. Phronix did a review on it on a linux system and it just performs poorly on Enemy Territory.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=571&num=3

It did blaze the X300 on UT though. So yeah, those benches may not be the most accurate.

if u guys come up with a short list of stuff u wanna see the GMA X3000 benched on go ahead and post it here when i get done i'll post back w/ the results.

 

hans007

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Originally posted by: bluemax
Any update on drivers / performance?

i dont think intel will be updating to 14.26 driver until next year... so nothing until then/
 

thiagoc

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I have got a new computer and it came with the Intel G965 chipset / GMA X3000 IGP. I got this one because there was no option of models with a decent board, so I decided to buy the video separately. But I am not sure if I will need to buy a video board so soon.

My specs are:

Core 2 Duo E6300
2GB RAM (not sure what speed, but probably 533)
HD 250GB (does it matter?)
Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme Music
Intel GMA X3000
Windows XP Home

The drivers that it came with were not the latest, so the performance sucked for new games. I have updated with the ones that came out in october.

I have tried to run all games in 1280-1024, but it seems that 1024x768 runs much smoother for me. So I don't think the higher resolution is worth the decrease in the speed.

I am able to run The Need For Speed Most Wanted with all settings high, no slowdowns. I tried 1280-1024, it runs fine but has some slowdowns when the screen is full of cars, so I am running it in 1024x768.

I am able to run HL2, the same resolution as NFS, no slowdowns. The engine of HL2 in this case stutters, I don't know why but I have read in a lot of forums people complaining about that. Other than that the game runs smoothly.

I am also running Guild Wars, all settings high, same resolution as the previous ones, and it runs ok.

Some older games such as Splinter Cell and Soldier of Fortune 2 run VERY FAST with all options turned on.

Given the performance boost I got just for switching to the latest driver, I think the full potential of this piece of hardware is not yet realized, BUT this is a hell of a good IGP! It's good enough to play the new games.

It's hard to find good information about it on the internet. No benchmarks, no real evaluations, just the usual "Nvidia RuLz #1" whenever an Intel IGP is cited. This is my first Intel IGP, and except by the low quality of the drivers (maybe Intel rushed it out of the door for not hurting the sales of Core 2's ?) I'd say it's pretty good.
 

IntelUser2000

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*BUMP* Apologize to bring up an old thread, but didn't want to create a new one making it redundant :p.

The situations for the graphics driver has been pretty bad for the GMA X3000. Some very hard to find benchmarks show that the business version, the GMA 3000 performs approximately 10-15% better in 3DMark(X3000 is faster in 06 because GMA 3000 can't run some portions). Other data I gathered also seem to indicate similar performance trend.


Intel now has a development guide page specifically for GMA X3000
http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/recent/334680.htm?page=1

Some surprising information that was previously unknown: "The GMA X3000 architecture marks a departure from the zone rendering architecture."

That debunks PowerVR licensing for G965 right there. It also confirms a report from a PowerVR representative that Intel's graphics for desktop isn't based on PowerVR(I don't think they want to license anyway, they would rather do it the other way if possible).

From what I can make out:
G965/GMA X3000: DX9 support with SM3.0, now on the desktop
GM965: DX10 support with SM4.0, on the mobile platform Santa Rosa
G33: Extension to the G965
G35: Higher end version supporting DX10/SM4.0, some more advanced features like HDMI

Now some people may disagree with me on the GM965 supporting DX10 while G965 doesn't. From the development page, G965 only has 24-bit precision for Pixel Shader, which means its equivalent to SM2.0. It has 8K x 8K 2D textures, which is between the requirement for DX9 SM 3.0 and DX10 SM 4.0. So the impression I get is most of the graphics unit is DX10, but there are some things that are definitely not DX10, hence the software support rumor.

GM965 rumors put DX10 SM3.0: http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1971_large_specs_g965.png

The article talks about G965, but the pic in the presentation is obviously for the mobile version. There were also conflicting news whether it'll really support DX10 SM4.0, and it came out to be that it'll be supported in software: http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=653301&starttime=0&endtime=0

"Bearlake-G+ is the first IGP with DirectX10 hardware supported, where G965 and Bearlake-G would get DirectX 10 supported by software only."


Enough about the G965 core, the graphics driver version 14.26 is to be released in a matter of days, with Hardware T&L and VS 2.0 support, currently, it only supports hardware PS 3.0.
 

imported_cinder

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Those wondering about HL2 on GMA X3000...don't even bother. I got an intel motherboard with it and a e6300 with 2GB of Crucial DDR2-8000 and I still got 10FPS in CS:S. Its pointless. Get a better board and a graphics card if you want to play games. BTW I got this board with an employee purchase bundle. Already put the e6300 in a different motherboard and ordered a graphics card...I will post the OC results in the forums when I get the gfx card.
 

IlllI

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i doubt an x200/x1100 will do any better than the x3000. according to this guy the x1100 struggles with playing warcraft3 :/

 

IntelUser2000

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i doubt an x200/x1100 will do any better than the x3000. according to this guy the x1100 struggles with playing warcraft3 :/

X200/X1100 isn't THAT bad. My GMA950 with Celeron D 2.53GHz can get 35-45 fps average at 1024x768 high. I don't lag as much as he claims unless every unit, every spellcasting is done on the screen.

Integrated graphics aren't good, but its view on it is even worse.

Update to Clandren:

correction: is -shouldn't- be that bad. did you read the whole thread + the links? x200/x1100 has crap drivers. thats the conclusion i came up with as to why the performance was terrible

Yes I did read it. Most of the modern GPUs have no problems with games like Warcraft III/WoW(partly in thanks to Blizzard), but if it beats GMA950 in others, then its only having a problem in that particular game. I know a person with A64 and X200 mobile, and he doesn't seem to have any problems, if you know what I mean. Drivers may make a difference but in Warcraft III?? Its couple of years old...
 

IlllI

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Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
i doubt an x200/x1100 will do any better than the x3000. according to this guy the x1100 struggles with playing warcraft3 :/

X200/X1100 isn't THAT bad. My GMA950 with Celeron D 2.53GHz can get 35-45 fps average at 1024x768 high. I don't lag as much as he claims unless every unit, every spellcasting is done on the screen.

Integrated graphics aren't good, but its view on it is even worse.


correction: is -shouldn't- be that bad. did you read the whole thread + the links? x200/x1100 has crap drivers. thats the conclusion i came up with as to why the performance was terrible



 

tvdang7

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how does this thing compare to nvidia's 6100/6150 or ati's new x1100. i just recently did an impulse buy on a laptop with a 6100 yesterday (cheap and for college). did so much research and this is the first time ive heard of an x3000
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: tvdang7
how does this thing compare to nvidia's 6100/6150 or ati's new x1100. i just recently did an impulse buy on a laptop with a 6100 yesterday (cheap and for college). did so much research and this is the first time ive heard of an x3000

they dont have the x3000 for laptops yet, because the sonoma g965m isnt out yet.
 

IntelUser2000

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how does this thing compare to nvidia's 6100/6150 or ati's new x1100. i just recently did an impulse buy on a laptop with a 6100 yesterday (cheap and for college). did so much research and this is the first time ive heard of an x3000

The laptop platform that will contain X3000 core won't be out till ~April.

they dont have the x3000 for laptops yet, because the sonoma g965m isnt out yet.

Sonoma is platform that includes Pentium M 90nm generation and 533MHz FSB. GM965(which is the chipset name) platform is called Santa Rosa.
 

Tegeril

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I was going to post some, but didn't really get any interest (different thread), so I didn't bother and now my media box is all setup.

It runs quite well though (My laptop's 128MB Mobility Radeon 9700 gets a 3.6/3.6 WEI, my C2D media box with 2gb ddr2-533 ram and an e6300 gets a 3.7/3.9 WEI with its x3000).
 

eurotrance4life

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If anyone's interested, Intel X3000/X3100 users should rejoice! It's finally here! New Pre-Beta Drivers

Scroll down to the bottom of the page
Download Here!

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator Pre-Beta Driver 14.31
New Features
Features Added in Baseline 14.31
Vertex Shader support targeting VS2.x hardware vertex processing

Only available for XP right now, but Vista's should be out in the next couple weeks
 

kreacher

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I don't think Intel will improve integrated graphics much if the rumors/speculation about Intel launching discrete graphics solutions next year are true.