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My friend said "Jews control the media

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Ford later apoligized for his anti-semitism (it is unclear how legitimate his apology was). The "protocols" were used by the Nazis to justify their persecution of European Jews. Arab groups hostile to Israel have long used the "protocols" as a source of propaganda.

CJZ...Arabs are Semitic, as well. You may have not known that because the MEDIA always refered to jews as being semitic. WHy would arabs use "protocols" that make up stuff about semitics when they are semitic themselves? anyways...it's nice talking to people who make themselves look stupid.
 


<< CJZ...Arabs are Semitic, as well. >>

Who cares? It doesn't change the fact that a majority of them hate Jews...
 
There are Jewish people who have control of media companies (Michael Eisner of ABC) but there are more non-Jews in control of media companies (Jeff Immelt, Rupert Murdoch, Michael H. Jordan).

 
reitz:

Um...you would know this how?

I guess if you are brave enough to make such a statement, you would agree the feeling is mutual?



 
Yes I was aware that Palestinians are a semitic people like the Jews. That makes the whole conflict more tragic (kind of like brother fighting brother).


WHy would arabs use "protocols" that make up stuff about semitics when they are semitic themselves? anyways...it's nice talking to people who make themselves look stupid.

Yeah, it is fun to talk to stupid people. 🙂 The protocols specifically applied to zionists or Jews. It never mentioned any other semitic people. I love the argument by Palestinians that they are not anti-semitic because they themselves are semites. That's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that they don't like the Israeli Jews.

People are getting the wrong impression of my stance on the Israel/Palestine issue. I am a supporter of Palestinian rights and a Palestinian state. I believe that Israel is a violator of basic human rights. I simply oppose the anti-Jewish rhetoric that comes from some of the leaders of the Palestinian and Arab peoples.
 
There are Jewish people who have control of media companies (Michael Eisner of ABC) but there are more non-Jews in control of media companies (Jeff Immelt, Rupert Murdoch, Michael H. Jordan).

perhaps, but the largest ones are almost all jewish

walt disney - michael eisner
walt disney picture group (touchstone, hollywood, caravan pictures) - joe roth
miramax - weinstein brothers

time warner - gerald levin

viacom - sumner redstone (born murray rothstein)
paramount - sherry lansing

sony corporation of america - michael schulhof
sony pictures - alan levine

dreamworks skg - geffen, katzenberg, spielberg

MCA & Universal Pictures - edgar bronfman jr. (president of world jewish congress)
 
<< Who cares? It doesn't change the fact that a majority of them hate Jews... >>

yes and Jews hate a lot of Arabs too, but the Arabs are justified in there hate. If some group of people just decided to invade a portion of the US where you lived, kick you out, most likely kill someone you know and let you never return, you probably wouldn't like them either.
 
Pers,

Do a search on opinion polls in the Middle East (or check out the 'Arab Cultural Center' at any major university). It's not exactly a secret.

Yes, I would agree the feeling is mutual (though that wasn't the case 50 years ago). If I lived in Israel, or had family there, I'd hate Arabs too. 5 wars of agression, with to goal of exterminating myself and my countrymen is all the justification I'd need...
 


<< If some group of people just decided to invade a portion of the US where you lived, kick you out, most likely kill someone you know and let you never return, you probably wouldn't like them either. >>

Let me guess...you failed high school history?
 


<< dont' get me wrong...i am neither Jewish nor palestinian..

I am also not naive. >>

Nor am I. And as an extra added bonus, I'm able to differentiate between the conduct of the Israeli government and the average Israeli citizen.
 
reitz dude...wtf?

ANYONE WILLING TO MAKE AN OPINION POLL IS PROBABLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE SITUATION!

Thus....if i am the average arab (i'm not, btw) living in america....I wouldn't waste my time with opinion polls..

HOwever, if i really was interested in the situation (one who obviously is against jewish aggression) i would make such meaningless polls.

If you knew anything about opinion polls you would know how to detect a bias one!

It is obvious you are a prime candidate for media propaganda tho...

Go along..follow the herd.
 


<< HOwever, if i really was interested in the situation (one who obviously is against jewish aggression) i would make such meaningless polls.

If you knew anything about opinion polls you would know how to detect a bias one!

It is obvious you are a prime candidate for media propaganda tho >>

Do you know what an opinion poll is? Apparently not.
 
Ok...

How many of these opinion polls relied on random selection?!

How many of these polls relied on voluntary response?

I am not a gamer...So lets say i bump into one of these stupid XBOX, GCN, or PS2 threads comparing the significance of the three?

WHat is the likeliness i will vote for any? not very high.

HOwever, lets say i see a poll about...politics. What is the likeliness i will vote now? A bit higher...

Now, guess which types of people are going to be interested in "Arab hate polls?" Yes, Arabs who hate the jews. You think if you were an arab that didn't concern yourself with the issue, you would be even looking at the webpage?! NO!

That, my friend, is voluntary response..

Now send out some surveys...randomly...to arabs...

Then from the replies you get back...randomly pick out 50. (this again will result in a bias poll, but it will be a little better). Tell me the results you find now?

Again, you run the risk of getting more replies from hateful people, than from neutral people...

Anyways...that is the basic principal of accumulating data.. Have fun with your endeavors.
 


<< How many of these opinion polls relied on random selection?!

How many of these polls relied on voluntary response? >>

Ummm...that's what an opinion poll is. It is a survey of random individuals, seeking their opinions on a given issue.

Come on, it's really not that hard to understand...
 
Lol...they are definately NOT as simple as you think they are...

the ones you think of maybe simple to run...but they will ALWAYS result in bias conclusions...


darn..i expected a better response.
 
An opinion poll is a random sample of a certain demographic (usually over the telephone here...I'm not sure how the samples are chosen in non-Western nations). That means that respondants are chosen solely by chance (that's why a well-constructed poll will always have a null answer). The nature of a well-constructed survey guarantees a non-biased response, with a reported margin of error.



<< Lol...they are definately NOT as simple as you think they are...

the ones you think of maybe simple to run...but they will ALWAYS result in bias conclusions... >>



Allright, I know when I'm beat. If nothing else, I've learned from these forums that it's pointless to argue with an idiot.
 
well so you know of what a poll is...

and since you claim you have seen some...i challenge you to bring some forth.

Remember, you put this on yourself!

Anytime you claim something..you must back it with sufficient proof!

i guess calling me an idiot is a good way to run away from our "discussion"

whatever suits your ego.
 
reitz -

i think what he's trying to say is that there is the potential for bias, because certain types of people are more likely to agree to do the survey than others.
 

reitz: why not answer the issue????

gopunk: "There are Jewish people who have control of media companies (Michael Eisner of ABC) but there are more non-Jews in control of media companies (Jeff Immelt, Rupert Murdoch, Michael H. Jordan).
perhaps, but the largest ones are almost all jewish
walt disney - michael eisner
walt disney picture group (touchstone, hollywood, caravan pictures) - joe roth
miramax - weinstein brothers
time warner - gerald levin
viacom - sumner redstone (born murray rothstein)
paramount - sherry lansing
sony corporation of america - michael schulhof
sony pictures - alan levine
dreamworks skg - geffen, katzenberg, spielberg
MCA & Universal Pictures - edgar bronfman jr. (president of world jewish congress)"

You assail posters.
You discredit sources.

You avoid the issue.

You tell us how many Jews were in bubba clinton's cabinet and staff, how many worked for him in high influential positions.
There were MANY.
YOU look it up. YOU prove differrent.

Knowlege is Power !!! Arm Youyrselves!!!

ZAQ
 
ZAQ3211:

Reitz only argues with the intelligent...

You and i are not intelligent enough, i suppose?
 

Pers
Those are typical DISINFORMATION tactics - there are 25 rules of this.

I only learned of them recently. I showed them to my wife.
She had learned of them in the 60's as part of her CIA indoctrination.
Far too much of that goes on in this forum.

I offer information for the readers to decide.

Misinformers attack me or the sources instead of the issues.

Knowlege is Power!!! Arm Yourselves!!!

ZAQ
 
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