My friend just bought a 9800 Pro, but took the heatsink off........

[blurredvision]

............and the chip reads R360! From what I've searched and gathered from our very dear anandtech.com site, this R360 is the core to the 9800XT. So what does this mean for my friend?

The only reason he even saw it was to replace the heatsink with a better one, so is this basically a rebadged 9800XT? Would he be able to clock from 9800Pro speeds (380/340) to 9800XT speeds (412/730)?? Is there even a reason the R360 shows on the chipset?

TIA

 

[AIWGuru]

It didn't validate as a 9800XT so overclocking it to those speeds is definitely not a guarantee.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
It didn't validate as a 9800XT so overclocking it to those speeds is definitely not a guarantee.

But there is a chance to get near those speeds? I told him that I thought it maybe didn't pass the stability tests for an XT, so they marked it down as a 9800Pro. That could be way off, but I'm not extremely knowledgeable about it.

 

[Atlantean]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
It didn't validate as a 9800XT so overclocking it to those speeds is definitely not a guarantee.

But there is a chance to get near those speeds? I told him that I thought it maybe didn't pass the stability tests for an XT, so they marked it down as a 9800Pro. That could be way off, but I'm not extremely knowledgeable about it.

That is probably what they did. He can always try overclocking it to those speeds and if he gets artifacts or freeze-ups then clock the speed back to 9800 pro speeds.

 

[The Sauce]

I suppose that ttere is always the possibility that ATI is only making 360's now to cut manufacturing costs and just marking some of them as lesser chips...just like the CPU manufacturers do. Wouldn't that be interesting...

 

[tenoc]

9800Pro speeds (380/340) to 9800XT speeds (412/730)

Even if he gets the core speed to 412, unless the memory chips are the same as an XT's,....... Well, you see where I'm going!

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

He's talking about just overclocking it not flashing the bios.

 

[Atlantean]

Originally posted by: tenoc

9800Pro speeds (380/340) to 9800XT speeds (412/730)

Even if he gets the core speed to 412, unless the memory chips are the same as an XT's,....... Well, you see where I'm going!

all he has to do is get the core to 412 and the memory to 365...

 

[CindySue22]

"My friend..." LOL!

 

[kd2777]

Originally posted by: CindySue22
"My friend..." LOL!

I'm the friend, so what was that to mean?

Anyway, AyashiKaibutsu, you mention flashing the bios, could that be done? If so would it help. I don't know what RAM the 9800xt has in it but this one has the SAMSUNG 404 it also has KD4363238e-gc2a underneath it.

If it will be an 9800xt that will be cool, but if not I paid for an 9800pro and will be happy with it. 😉

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
It didn't validate as a 9800XT so overclocking it to those speeds is definitely not a guarantee.

But there is a chance to get near those speeds? I told him that I thought it maybe didn't pass the stability tests for an XT, so they marked it down as a 9800Pro. That could be way off, but I'm not extremely knowledgeable about it.

my 9800 pro easily clocks to a 9800XT so i would be surprised if his did as well

 

[Jeff7181]

9800 Pro = 380/340 (680 effectively since it's double data rate)
9800 XT = 412/365 (730 effective)

 

[Mustanggt]

Is the only difference the clock speed between Pro and XT?? My 9800 pro does 410/360 but there is not much difference in benchies from default clock to XT clock

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Theres not much difference between the 9800 pro 256 and the 9800 xt in benchies. Flashing a video card bios is risky. They weren't meant to have that done to them. I know it's a horible idea on nvidia cards I've heard it's not as risky on ati cards but I still wouldn't mess with it. Basicly the best you could hope for is better memory timings but theres no garuntee you'll get this and you'll likely just fubar your card(a hard thing to fix when you can't get video).

 

[Elcs]

My 9800 Pro does 430/370 with stock Sapphire cooling. Never keep it on for long though. Dont know whether meatier cooling or ramsinks would help much.