First off, he's fine, although his 97 Camaro is totalled trashed. The driver side door is bashed in real bad, the glass broke, and the frame part of the bottom of the car was seriously bent in also. I think it will be 4K worth of damages, although I'm no car nut. Anyway, here's what happend: he was driving down a street that is two way, one lane each direction. We normally make a left to enter into the last gate, but the gate was closed. Past this gate, there is a street on the right, but there is no street on the left. He turned on his left turn signal, to make a u-turn, but as he does often (I guess its because of the length of his car, he swung slightly to the right, then back to the left to complete the U-Turn. A girl who was going along behind him in a 4-Runner ran right into his side door as he cut back. We guess that she thought he was going to make a right turn (even with his other turn signal on), and thought it was safe to pass him on the left, and just plowed right into him when he turned back. So is he at fault for turning in front of her, or is she at fault because she hit him from behind? Luckily both of them are fine, and her car sustained about 1K worth of damage (she was bawling, it was her brand new car, and obviously her first wreck).
My friend got in a wreck today, who was at fault?
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If he was still within his lane, then she failed to maintain safe distance and it is her fault. Otherwise, your friend is to blame.
ok, well, i think he is at fault because U turns are usually illeagal. Now, I don't know if your state is a "no-fault" satate as mine is (i live in MI) but, he should have traded insruance with the other driver and then contact his insurance agent to make a claim. Don't hold me to my opinion, but i am kinda an agent.(just took my property and causalty exam today) I work for Allstate! let me know what happens!
Sounds like the accident was her fault.
Your lack of using paragraphs is the fault of your english teachers.
Your lack of using paragraphs is the fault of your english teachers.
The turn your friend was making sounds a little strange, probably illegal. I'm guessing this was a residential street? I'm not sure u-turns are ever actually ok, technically, on residential streets (3-pt. turns, which no one makes, are), but even if they are the manner in which he made it made her expectation that he was turning right reasonable (even w/the turn signal). But it does sound like even if he bears the brunt of it there could be some shared liability here, since she was probably not keeping sufficient following distance. Anyway, the insurance company will give you the right answer...
Not certain who would be found at fault, unless it is a no U-turn road then it would rest entirely with your friend. He did signal, but making a turn to the right then swinging hard to the left is a bit erratic (though I understand the reason); if the other driver was further back then she would have had more time to stop when he swerved back and surprised her.
actually, i would think the guy in the camaro is more at fault. first of all, he's making an unsafe U-turn. he should've pulled to the side and check both side of the road before making the U-turn instead of just went ahead. the girl behind him is also at fault because you never should pass someone who's making a right turn (that's what she thought he was doing) until the car cleared the turn. i wasn't there to see the whole situation, but from the situation described it appears the guy in the camaro is more at fault and the one who initiated the accident by making trying to make that U-turn unsafely! (i just recently took traffic school )
)It seems she tried to go around him a little early. I would say it's her fault.
This would be great if she could post HER side of the story. Then we'd have something to talk about.
This would be great if she could post HER side of the story. Then we'd have something to talk about.
I'd say if the accident happened on the other side of the yellow line (because she was trying to get around the car turning right), then she is at fault for crossing the double yellow line and failure to maintain control of her vehicle. If not, then your friend is at fault for making an illegal turn. Not positive on this, but even if U-turns are legal, I don't think it is legal at an intersection that has only a right turn to initiate a U-turn to the left. The proper thing for your friend to do was to pull over and let traffic pass before initiating the U-turn. Had there been a road to the left at the intersection, and U-turns are legal in that area, then what he did would have been fine, regardless of where he swung the car initially, but since there was no road to the left, bad mojo.
It was a residential street, not a double yellow line - I'm not even sure if its stipped there, if it is, it is only a single yellow. They both go to my school, the parents are going to take care of it with the insurance. Everybody was gawking at their cars today (in the parking lot right in front of the school, there was a firedrill so we were all out there). I've read that Texas is a no fault state, but in the wrecks I've been in, fault has always been assigned, and the only wreck on my driving record (which i had to get from the state b/c of a recent speeding ticket) is the one where I was at fault. I think he was partially in both lanes when it occured.
So basically the Camero had his left hand signal on but then started into a right hand road only to turn back into traffic? He's screwed. If there was nothing on the left hand side to turn into how is she supposed to know that he was gonna pull a U-turn. Sorry, but what type of person trys to pull a U turn with someone so close? Most times they have to be a three point turn unless your friend pulled way off to the right to make it in one swing.
The Camaro guy is at absolutely at fault. He shouldn't be making a U-turn until no traffic is around. That's just common sense. U-turns are a somewhat irregular maneuver that other drivers should not be expected to anticipate. She thought he was turning right and so she went around him. Turn signals are irrelevant, in my opinion (if "U-turn signals" existed, I might feel differently, but they don't). For trying to make a U-turn while other traffic is present, he deserves what he got for his lack of forethought.
Your friend is at fault.He should have pulled over and let whom ever past before turning.Even if U-turns are allowed.It's called "making an unsafe turn",you just don't make a U-E when there is traffic behind you.
If I was the other driver,I would just say that I was trying to avoid the person in front of me making an unsafe turn.
If I was the other driver,I would just say that I was trying to avoid the person in front of me making an unsafe turn.
If she hit him from behind it's her fault. If you hit someone from behind, almost every single time it is your fault. So if I read it right and she hit him from behind, she is at fault.
The Camaro is at fault... Just think about it.
He signals to the left, and begins to turn right. I think the 4 runner is thinking he's going to turn right and she just drives straight as usual. Then your friend all of the suddens goes left and she hits his door.
Think about it... the 4 runner absolutely does not know what you're going to be doing...
He signals to the left, and begins to turn right. I think the 4 runner is thinking he's going to turn right and she just drives straight as usual. Then your friend all of the suddens goes left and she hits his door.
Think about it... the 4 runner absolutely does not know what you're going to be doing...
Its her fault, she gets the ticket. It could have very easily been prevented, however. Your freind was stupid for pulling some weird turns without looking around him, and the girl was stupid for following too close. Still her fault though. Do NOT contact your insurance company, and file a claim, because if they know you got in an accident, in a camaro, and you are in high school.......your insurance is not going to be prety. Because it was legaly her fault, the repairs should come from her company. Your freind may still be issued a ticket however.
rahvin: There was no ticket written, and I don't even know if there were cops involved, although we do have off-duty SWAT guys that work at our school. I don't think they were involved. In the four wrecks that I've been in, 2 of em the police were called, and neither of those times was a ticket written. I'm starting to lean towards that it was my friend's fault, since the majority here thinks it was and my uncle concurred with that (he's a car dealer, so I trust his judgement on automobile matters).
<< So basically the Camero had his left hand signal on but then started into a right hand road only to turn back into traffic? He's screwed >>
I'm assuming he was driving down the center of his lane and swirved right so he could make a sharper left turn. (I have to do that in my truck in order to complete a u-turn)
edit: cant spell.
If the cops were not involved, it is a whole different story. That was probably a mistake not to call the cops.
- David
- David
If the cops weren't involved, then the insurance companies will investigate, decide who pays how much, and both drivers will probably have "at fault" accidents on the books for the next 3 or 5 years.
NO idea who's at fault, cause your description of the accident sucked. He pulled a U turn on a 2 lane street and then a car hit him from behind? what?
ok, actually the street is like 1.5 lanes. Its not really wide enough to pass if your going the same way w/o crossing over the line, but it is wide enough in some parts for one car to turn right while the other continues going straight if the two cars are equal to each other. Yes, a car was behind him, he made a u-turn, was halfway thru the turn (straddling both sides of the street) and the car that was behind him hit him.
Technically, he pulled in front of her. He may as well have been pulling out from a side street across her path. If he hadn't swung so far right, this wouldn't be the case. He really went pretty far to the right to allow her to broadside him, right? Otherwise she would have hit him from behind.
Look at it this way. He turned right, made a U-turn and headed back across the main road. His left turn signal barely factors into this.
Look at it this way. He turned right, made a U-turn and headed back across the main road. His left turn signal barely factors into this.
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