My fish are all dead!!! Damnit!

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Tea Bag

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Originally posted by: Infiniplex Systems
Originally posted by: LadyBuggy
I've always heard not to change more than 10% of your tank's water at a time, too.

I've got a fish tank bucket, where I put the water that I suction out of the tank, and then I dump the water out, put tap water in the bucket, treat the tap water (the stuff that I use is supposed to work in seconds to get rid of the harmful chemicals) and then put the clean water in. I haven't lost any fish in awhile, except for the 3 year old catfish who died recently.

When can I put fish in mine, given what I know now?

What kind of filtration system do you have? undergravel, filter box, bioWheel?

I would set up a filtration system with a bioWheel or an external box (with activated carbon). I use both an undergravel and a box. Use that StartRight stuff or a dechorinator or water-setup equivalent, and let it sit for 3-4 days with no fish. Then, test the Ph, ammonia and cholorine levels before adding fish. And don't buy a ton of them the first time you go. You can even buy cheapies (black tetras or something like that) and leave them in there for a week to build a bacteria level up after you treat the water for a day or two, just to hedge your bets. Better to be out 3 bucks instead of 30.
 

dawnbug

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Originally posted by: Infiniplex Systems
Originally posted by: LadyBuggy
I've always heard not to change more than 10% of your tank's water at a time, too.

I've got a fish tank bucket, where I put the water that I suction out of the tank, and then I dump the water out, put tap water in the bucket, treat the tap water (the stuff that I use is supposed to work in seconds to get rid of the harmful chemicals) and then put the clean water in. I haven't lost any fish in awhile, except for the 3 year old catfish who died recently.

When can I put fish in mine, given what I know now?

If your fish tank filter is still running, and your ph levels are good, you should be good. If you don't have your filter running, you're going to want to let it run with a clean filter for at least 24 hours before putting fish in, I think. (I'm not a fish expert, though. You should talk to Aquaman or one of the aquarium enthusiasts.)
 

RaDragon

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I have 4 fishies -- all comet goldfish. 2 are what I won from my church's fair, and I recently got 2 more at Petco (they cost like, $0.10 if you have a Petco card.)

Anyway, I have a 6 gallon acrylic tank in my room. I use a Chlorine/Chloramine remover whenever I do water changes (e.g., treat the water with that) and I use Biozyme sometimes.

Definitely talk to the fish people at PetSmart/PetCo. The dude there was very helpful when I was first starting out (I had a 1 gallon tank) and so far, I'm enjoying having fish for pets. :)

RIP your fishies. :( I lost 3 fishies in the past year. Vincent Van Gogh, Sammy and recently, Mary-Kate. Ashley's showing the "dying" signs (laying on the rocks and only swimming up for food; can't really open her mouth to eat) so I will have an odd amount of fishies again.
 

henryay

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I would not buy anything really expensive during the nitrogen cycle. Here are some recommended fishes to start the cycle: http://www.aquariumpros.com/articles/fishcyclefw.shtml .

I started with some cheap Fantail Goldfishes for my tank. When the nitrogen cycle was done, I added other expensive fishes. On the way to getting the nitrogen cycle started, i lost 2 fishes, but it wasn't a huge loss since they are cheap.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Infiniplex Systems
Please guys. I spent a good chunk of change on this setup, your input is greatly appreciated.
I'm sure there were a few pieces of advice you didn't appreciate in your previous thread.
 

neutralizer

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Reminds me of the time I changed the water in the pond. Gulp gulp, 30 minutes and all 10 fish are goners.
 

jdub1107

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I hate buying fish at PetsMart or Petco. They don't take care of the fish at all. There's always dead fish in there.
How long have you had your fish?
Anyways, never put water directly from the tap into the tank. You're suppose to add water conditioner and then let the mixture it sit for a couple of days. Since you don't have much chlorine though, you can probably just add the mixture without letting it sit out. Also, I believe there should be only about 1-1.5 degree (I usually keep it under 1 when I change water) difference between temps when changing water.

Edit: I assume that your tank was already cycled before you added the barbs in?
 

henryay

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There are tests for ammonia, chlorine, nitrate, nitrite, PH and alot more. I found that ammonia is extremely useless after you get your tank fully cycled (nitrogen cycle). Chlorine would be useless if you let your water "age" for 1 day or so. Nitrite is again useless if you have fully cycled your tank. Nitrate would be useful because that is the end point of the nitrogen cycle. It will tell you how often you need to change your water. PH, i often use alot because of the high PH content in my city.

Get that tank cycled! Once you do, you will ONLY see nitrate, no nitrite nor ammonia.

By the way, find a forum about aquarium fishes, they would be more helpful than a computing forum.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Bozono
Originally posted by: Infiniplex Systems
Well, ****** a brick, I cant belive this. Actually, I was getting tired of these tiger barbs, once I get the water right, what else do you think I should get?



A brain.

fixed
 

MobiusPizza

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Originally posted by: tasburrfoot78362
Originally posted by: ironcrotch
Aren't you suppose to treat the tap water.

Yep. You can't use plain tap water. Or since you are using it in a mixture with the original water, distilled water would have worked, so long as you didn't go out of range with the PH. It's probably best to go 10%, wait a while, then another 10%, and wait a while, and then another 10%. Gradually change out water.

Adding Distulited water would not change PH values since by definition pure water does not affect a solution's PH no matter how much of the distillated water you add.
 

Slickone

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My last few Convict Cichlids died a few months ago. They would have been 8 years old this month.

OP: Try to not use ammonia removers. For one thing, it's likely to kill your fish itself. Do water changes over a period of time to remove ammonia. And if ammonia is in your tap water, go get some RO water from a self serve dispenser that some grocery stores have (publix, super wal mart, health food/produce type grocery stores). You MUST treat your tap water before adding it to the tank, especially with as much as you changed.
Possibly what your water company is doing is adding Chloramine, which is a combination of chlorine and ammonia. And they have to add a lot of it to be effective. Chloramine doesn't dissipate in the air much like chlorine does. So just letting your tap water sit out for awhile before adding might not be good. Also don't do large water changes. Keep it at about 10%-20%, the lower the better, just do it more often.
The water you add to the tank (if you have fish in it) needs to be almost the exact same temp. as the tank water. A couple degrees difference or so won't hurt, unless the fish are already sick/stressed.
If the cup you used was washed with soap, it still has a little bit soap in it even if you rinced it out.
Don't stick your bare hands in the tank. They have oil, soap, cologne, food, and all kinds of stuff that aren't good for the fish. Buy some of the thick gloves made for salt water fish keepers.
All this stuff may sound picky, but it's required if you want to have fish that are healthy and live long.

How long were your fish in the thank before changing? It takes awhile for a bio filter to build up with needed bacteria to do it's job. If it's not, you'll have ammonia and/or nitrite in the tank.

And if the Ammo Lock you used is by Aquarium Pharmaceuticals, AP products generally are not good, nor are Jungle's. You need something to remove Chlorine any time you do a water change. I recommend NovAqua by Kordon. It removes Chloramine too. If you insist on an ammonia remover, I'd use Kordon's AmQuel. Activated carbon should remove your chloramine and ammonia as well (and probably remove some of the ammonia remover!). Also if your pH is lower, the ammonia is less toxic. But as a beginner, if you trying to adjust your pH, you'll probably kill your fish.

Adding Distulited water would not change PH values since by definition pure water does not affect a solution's PH no matter how much of the distillated water you add.
I don't know what Distulited water is, but distilled water can most certainly change pH. Distilled water has basically no kH - carbonate hardness (temporary hardness). kH is the buffering capacity, so with distilled water in the tank, the pH can easily be changed. Thats one way fish keepers change their pH (ie. for fish breeding), by adding distilled water. gH - general hardness (soft/hard) is what doesn't usually affect pH.