My first WC build - i5 2500k - 6950x2 - single loop

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aigomorla

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Which Koolance res would you advise? I want to stick with a 5.25: DD bay res, so I can keep pumps + res up in there, saves a lot of space.

the DD bay res?
The monsoon?

Those are close to the price of the Koolances..

Are you talking about XSPC?


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CRAP.. as i merged your post ViVi.. it screwed up the thread.. lol...
I was hoping it would amend.. and not merg up top... lemme see if i can get an admin to somehow "fix it"

EDIT 2: easiest solution might be for me to delete the first 3 posts...
If you think they are important i'll just forget it... if it isnt.. i'll delete it so the Original starting post stays up top.
Let me know what you want...
 
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ViviTheMage

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no worries, doesn't matter about the old posts, as long as they're in here. you can delete em if needed.

Just keep the OP?

I was talking about the XSPC, or Koolance, whichever can take a pump or 2 in the res.
 

aigomorla

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no worries, doesn't matter about the old posts, as long as they're in here. you can delete em if needed.

Just keep the OP?

I was talking about the XSPC, or Koolance, whichever can take a pump or 2 in the res.

well the XSPC can only take 1 pump.

The koolance can take 2 DDC's.

350 = 355 = 35x.

they have the same footprint.

If anything, you may need to clip the mounting feet to get them to install in the bay res.

The bay res for the DDC is better designed then the D5 i think.
If anything you can probably go here and look at the reviews:

http://skinneelabs.com/

umm also martin did a nice review on noise..
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dawp

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Well, since it was just released, there are no reviews on it quite yet. I believe it will preform somewhat better than the 360.
 

dawp

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he called a preview, so I consider it just a taste with more to come, and btw I link you to it.
 

aigomorla

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370 will probably be the best performing block.

the 360 with modified jets could keep up with a HF, and probably out pace it by 1C.

The 370 is a modified 360 with a better bowing plate, so u get better thermals.


And Vivi if u look at the 2nd lowest noise line graph, its a DDC3.2 + Koolance COV RP-400..

meaning a DDC is isnt that much louder then a D5 once u put it in a bay res.
 

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barbs or compression fittings ...hmmm

That's most likely about a $100 question when all it said and done. The compression fittings do look nicer....But they do add to the overall cost quite a bit.

Your post above mine only is showing 1 picture....But the one show if you look at what would be CPU block you have the hoses backwards if it's politicaly correct :)

Not sure how the crossfire/sli goes but I'm thinking hose goes in upper card, then to lower card and back to res. Not 2 hoses between cards.
 
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ViviTheMage

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I'll have two hoses between them .. making it parallel and not serial. I am just wondering which would cool the best, and keep temps lower with the 2 rads + 1 pump.

I am definitely going 1/2" ID and 3/4" OD tubing.

example :

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aigomorla

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shortest loop always wins in any closed loop, because flow is uniform, and equalibirum will be enforced as much as possible.

The only way i would ever recomend a specific order, its when you have 350W of heat source right b4 the cpu.

Which if you think about it.. 350W of heat is A LOT.

That's most likely about a $100 question when all it said and done.

lol... u think compressions are expensive?
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lol i can think of a lot of stuff in that box, which would make compressions look cheap. :p

thats my OH SHIT i forgot to order something box, i pull out incase of stuff like that.. lol...
 
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I'll have two hoses between them .. making it parallel and not serial. I am just wondering which would cool the best, and keep temps lower with the 2 rads + 1 pump.

I am definitely going 1/2" ID and 3/4" OD tubing.

example :

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That looks like it would work. Not sure what would work best as I've never tried it. But the Spok in me thinks it would work best in the serial mode. Seems like maybe some of the water/pressure could bypass in parallel mode to me. But like I said I've never tried it before :)
 

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That looks like it would work. Not sure what would work best as I've never tried it. But the Spok in me thinks it would work best in the serial mode. Seems like maybe some of the water/pressure could bypass in parallel mode to me. But like I said I've never tried it before :)

its called a double F paralell, and its a concept which i picked up from someone a long time ago, and started pushing out again, because gpu blocks = heavy.

So the double bridge acts more as a support, then as a flow improver.

Personally u wont see a difference that much either way.
 

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sooo you're thinking the first loop is a go. just wondering how many compression fittings I should start looking for.

If I wont see an improvement that method...what's the quickest method to install the xfire cards? 2stbby fittsings + hose on the left side of the blocks?
 

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sooo you're thinking the first loop is a go. just wondering how many compression fittings I should start looking for.

If I wont see an improvement that method...what's the quickest method to install the xfire cards? 2stbby fittsings + hose on the left side of the blocks?

For the compression fittings you'll need to do some counting.

As far as the cross-fire cards if it was me I'd just use one of the fittings between the cards. Then I'd hook up the hoses opposit of the fitting between the cards if that makes sense.
 

aigomorla

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yeah vivi im gonna assume you know some common sense.

So just dont have the inlet and outlet on the same side.. lol otherwise you'll just get water flowing straight down and out and miss the cards entirely...

The inlet on one side top, and outlet on the other side bottom, forces even waterways, which is a true model of a parallel.
 

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I thought that when I typed, but I wanted clarification :).

lol...

watercooling isnt that complicated.

just need to remember..

1. water is moving heat.. not absorbing it and destorying it.
2. water has a heat capacity in which it can move b4 going up 1C.
3. Flow is uniform thoughout the loop as well as equalibirum in temps, as long as you keep within the holding capacity of water.
4. holding capacity of water increases as flow increases.