My first (very budgeted) build

[oog]

Originally posted by: Cerb
If you don't have gaming on the agenda, it's fantastic PC for the money.

For internet:
1. Install XP.
2. Install all drivers from CD. I've been using the CD's drivers for my AN35N-Ultra, get fine benchmark scores, and it has been rock stable.
3. Plug cable from router into RJ45 on the motherboard's I/O panel.
4. Wait about 15 seconds to be sure.
5. Have fun on the 'net.

Make sure you install various security patched for XP (preferably downloaded on a separate, secure machine) before you do much (if anything) else on the 'net.

 

[Zebo]

Ooooo I love these. Why? I love to see cheap systems that can rock with the big boys. Lets see what we can do:

Case that's all you need screw the other PSU dynapower has a decent 12V rail. $30
CD got one
HSF- ALL COPPER LOW PROFILE Dynatron CPU Cooler for Socket A "BH-625" or speeze whisper rock 2$9.99
HD- Maxtor 40GB 7200RPM $51.00
Memory- 2 x A-DATA 184 Pin 256M DDR PC-3200 or one 512- around $78.00
Motherboard you go it, Shuttle an35n $54
Chip- Mobile 45 Watt AMD Athlon XP-M 2400+ $77.00
Video card Pricewatch.com chaintech Geforce 4 4200 will destroy FX5200/Radeon9600NP $70.



Total: $ 370 And will scream. OC chip to 2400Mhz, video to Core:275 Mem: 625 and this will utterly destroy what you have listed above.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
if you are looking to overclock...don't get the shuttle or the barton

Get a clue noob. those are the best overclockers ever price/performance.

How about 293.5 FSB on a "BARTON" 2500-M @3GHz with a "SHUTTLE" an35n!!!??! ...

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
if you are looking to overclock...don't get the shuttle or the barton

explain my 2.5 Ghz OC on a moblile 2400.

explain my (2) 2.22 Ghz OC's on an 1800

:roll:

 

[Bonesdad]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
if you are looking to overclock...don't get the shuttle or the barton

Nonsense

 

[flyingsock]

I'm not planning to do serious overclocking, and I'm not planning to start off over clocking now either, I guess it's too risky (?)

But just in case I'm going to OC in the future, I heard that the RAM i chose is not good, so is this good?:
Geil Value Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200

Would that work?

 

[flyingsock]

Please I want replies...


I'm not planning to do serious overclocking, and I'm not planning to start off over clocking now either, I guess it's too risky (?)

But just in case I'm going to OC in the future, I heard that the RAM i chose is not good, so is this good?:
Geil Value Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200

Would that work?

 

[Tostada]

Cheap ram (if you're talking Mushkin at least) should be fine, just because you're starting off with a 166 FSB, overclocking up to 200 FSB is going to be running your $77 PC3200 in-spec anyway. If the memory craps out at that speed, you need to RMA it.

Along the lines of what others have said, I would recommend a different case, be it Antec or whatever. It's rarely the best deal to get something that comes with a crap PSU and ditch unless you really like the look of the case.

I would also get a Samsung 80G drive. It's just as fast, quieter, and arguably more reliable... and it's $0.95 cheaper!

 

[flyingsock]

I have a new build!! Will this do better in the future? Like for upgrading or if later when I want to OC?



ANTEC Solution Series Super Mid Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK3700AMB" -RETAIL - $64 - (Newegg)

Geil Value Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - $85 - (Newegg) - *Combo: free Newegg pen*

AMD 45 Watt Mobile Athlon XP 2500+, 266 FSB, 512K Cache - OEM - $88 - (Newegg) - *Combo: free Newegg alarm clock*

ABIT "NF7" nForce2 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL - $66 - (Newegg)

Western Digital Special Edition 80GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model WD800JB, OEM Drive Only - $67 - (Newegg) - *Combo: free Newegg logo*

Used 3.5" Floppy Drive - $2 - (Local store- Micomp)

Black keyboard and mouse (on sale) (I forgot what kind or what brand) - $13 - (Local store- Micomp)

A 3 year old 17" CRT white monitor I got for free.

An Elsa 64mb video card I got about 1 or 2 years ago with GeForce4 MX440 and 517TV-Out.

I have a K-Hypermedia 52x24x52 CD-RW

I already have Windows XP Pro.

Old white speakers I got for free.


Subtotal: $ 383.95
Shipping: $ 15.00

TOTAL: $ 398.95


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What do you think?

 

[Zebo]

Very nice but I don't see a HSF.

 

[flyingsock]

I know. So I'm going to add a speeze whisper rock... this is getting complicated... Should I just stick with a Athlon XP 2500+? Or should I buy the Mobile?

 

[Zebo]

No you should get a mobile 2400 and set it to 3200+ speeds. It's not overclocking if you run it at the same specs as the 3200+ They are the same chip dispite what AMD would have you believe!!!

IE 1.65 Vcore and 200mhz bus.

 

[flyingsock]

I have a new build.



ANTEC Solution Series Super Mid Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK3700AMB" -RETAIL - $64 - (Newegg)

Speeze "WhisperRock II" CPU Cooler, for AMD/ Intel Socket A/ 370, Model "5F263B1M3G" - $9.99 - (Newegg) - *Combo: free Newegg logo sticker*

AMD 45 Watt Mobile Athlon XP 2500+, 266 FSB, 512K Cache - OEM - $88 - (Newegg) - *Combo: free Newegg alarm clock*

ABIT "NF7" nForce2 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL - $66 - (Newegg)

Kingston 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-2700 - OEM - $79 - (Newegg)

Western Digital Special Edition 80GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model WD800JB, OEM Drive Only - $67 - (Newegg) - *Combo: free Newegg card holder*

Used 3.5" Floppy Drive - $2 - (Local store- Micomp)

Black keyboard and mouse (on sale) (I forgot what kind or what brand) - $13 - (Local store- Micomp)

A 3 year old 17" CRT white monitor I got for free.

An Elsa 64mb video card I got about 1 or 2 years ago with GeForce4 MX440 and 517TV-Out.

I have a K-Hypermedia 52x24x52 CD-RW

I already have Windows XP Pro.

Old white speakers I got for free.


Subtotal: $ 387.94
Shipping: $ 19.00

TOTAL: $ 406.94

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What do you think? And Zebo you said I should get a 2400+? Is OCing easy? (so the 2400 can get higher) Will I need Thermal Paste and extra fans and all that stuff? I'm not going to start out OCing, so I guess I shouldn't worry about it too much... (?)

But is that computer build good? And do you think I should get a 2400 instead?

 

[flyingsock]

Should I get a 2400 or a 2500?

 

[someone16]

2400 is fine, that build looks good. I would get something @ PC3200 speeds thoug like this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-150-607&depa=0

 

[Zebo]

Is OCing easy?
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As I said you're not overclocking if you set Voltage to 1.65, bus to 200, and mulitplier to 11. That's what AMD sells in a barton and those are the factory specifications it runs at. Your chip is underclocked barton so just bring it up to spec. They call it the 3200+ but never mind that, it's not important, what is important is your chip can be a 3200 for $100 less money.

 

[flyingsock]

Thanks!

Do you think this is good? (my Antec case just got free shipping!! YAY!!!!)


ANTEC Solution Series Super Mid Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK3700AMB" -RETAIL - $64 - (Newegg)

Speeze "WhisperRock II" CPU Cooler, for AMD/ Intel Socket A/ 370, Model "5F263B1M3G" - $9.99 - (Newegg) - *Combo: free Newegg logo sticker*

AMD 45 Watt Mobile Athlon XP 2400+, 266FSB, 512K Cache - OEM - $77 - (Newegg) - *Combo: free Newegg alarm clock w/ calculator*

ABIT "NF7" nForce2 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL - $64 - (Newegg)

Corsair Value Select 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM - $82 - (Newegg) - *Combo: free Newegg pen*

Western Digital Special Edition 80GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model WD800JB, OEM Drive Only - $65.95 - (Newegg) - *Combo: free Newegg card holder*

Used 3.5" Floppy Drive - $2 - (Local store- Micomp)

Black keyboard and mouse (on sale) (I forgot what kind or what brand) - $13 - (Local store- Micomp)

A 3 year old 17" CRT white monitor I got for free.

An Elsa 64mb video card I got about 1 or 2 years ago with GeForce4 MX440 and 517TV-Out.

I have a K-Hypermedia 52x24x52 CD-RW

I already have Windows XP Pro.

Old white speakers I got for free.


Subtotal: $ 377.94
Shipping: $ 4.00

TOTAL: $ 381.94


*Only ONE combo allowed, I think I'm going to pick the alarm clock.
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What do you think? Hopefully I'm near the end... (I thought I was at the end this morning, I see now I was wrong)

 

[Zebo]

Antec case just got free shipping!!
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That's amazing!! Usually newegg hit you for 15-20 on a case.

Looks good. Abit has japanese capacitors and mosfets (Much higher Q for only $10) I don't like paying more for the same (AN35n) but if reliablity is a concern ABIT is king.

You may want to change HSF to this falcon rock only $1 more but copper center for a little better heat disapation

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-023&depa=1

 

[Zebo]

I think you only get one free item per order but I could be off as I never took advantage of thier free stuff.

 

[flyingsock]

Yup, I can only pick one free gift, I think I'm going to pick the Newegg alarm clock w/ calculator.

You said I should pick the falconrock instead? I think it has less max air flow, or does the max air flow matter?

 

[flyingsock]

should pick the falconrock instead? I think it has less max air flow, or does the max air flow matter?

Or is this good? Should I buy it?

 

[LIVAN]

I am running my Barton 2500+ I got from new Egg at 2.328 Ghz at stock 1.65 V.

 

[flyingsock]

Oh, is that OCed? (I'm still a beginner at OCing) If it is, what fan do you use?


should pick the falconrock instead? I think it has less max air flow, or does the max air flow matter?

Or is this computer build good? Should I buy it?

 

[LIVAN]

Yeah the standard 2500+ is at 1.8Ghz so taht is about a 500mhz Overlock.

I am using Cheap Fry's on sale KBYTE ram too. NOt to mention my MObo is another Cheap Fry's Onsale ECS.

I am however using a Koolance Water cooling system though. First generation.

 

[flyingsock]

I'm going to order my computer now, hope it works!!